BGS OPEN ONLY too

[rogueluke]

BGS should be Open only, Solo and PG Cmdrs should not be able to chage the influence and status of factions but only be able to do missions earn money, materials and rep, and i'm being generous.

how can anyone even tell if something is influenced by solo/pg players and not console players for example?

a pc player could be thinking someone is undermining in solo when in fact it is a console player in open doing it.

you have 3 platforms interlinked in the BGS but totally independent of each other.

 

[Brrokk]

FD, if you are reading these suggestions, note well: making PP Open-only will not satisfy the people who are asking for it. It's therefore not worth the risk.

 

[Gun Star]

how can anyone even tell if something is influenced by solo/pg players and not console players for example?

a pc player could be thinking someone is undermining in solo when in fact it is a console player in open doing it.

you have 3 platforms interlinked in the BGS but totally independent of each other.

I've been saying that since the feedback topic came out. Along with other things that are out of everyone's control.

 

[Limoncello Lizard]

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Guys... when said "BGS", I mean the conflict between Minor Factions.

Example: In SOLO or PG you should not be able to change the influence or state of a Minor Faction.

But reputation and other mechanics that don't affect the conflict would continue working.

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Everyone gets you, but many of us disagree.

The BGS is tied into everything we do. It shouldn't ever be restricted to one mode.

But before you continue making silly demands. Why not wait to see how much of a flop the open only powerplay turns out to be.

 

[Nero Tacitus]

Great, thanks OP. Now FDev will back off Open Only PP because you've demonstrated how easily players faceplant down the slope.

As an avid "Open Only" player, no! The BGS is an integral part of the game, it is not only a large part of, but primarily oriented towards PvE. It should not be locked to Open. PP is PvP oriented, that move makes sense, this does not.


PS: A part me suspects you're not this foolish and you're actually a Mobius member trying to sabotage the feedback. I demand instance logs!

FD, if you are reading these suggestions, note well: making PP Open-only will not satisfy the people who are asking for it. It's therefore not worth the risk.

Do not lump us all in with this genius. Most of us simply want the PvP section of the game in the "PvP mode" as it doesn't work, on a fundamental level, until it's exclusive to Open. We do not see it as a stepping stone to other things. The BGS is in no way relevant to game mode.

 

[EdzUp]

For those who want everyone in open surely the "Blocking all cmdrs and not being instances with them" would make Open a Solo game for them whilst STILL allowing them to influence the BGS?

Surely the instancing and blocking mechanics would also need work as all we would have to do is block EVERY cmdr we see?

 

[varonica]

For those who want everyone in open surely the "Blocking all cmdrs and not being instances with them" would make Open a Solo game for them whilst STILL allowing them to influence the BGS?

Surely the instancing and blocking mechanics would also need work as all we would have to do is block EVERY cmdr we see?

Nah that's easy fixed, just change it to a whitelist instead of a blocklist. So by default everyone is blocked and you just add your friends to the whitelist.

That would make us non PvP players very happy

 

[Nero Tacitus]

For those who want everyone in open surely the "Blocking all cmdrs and not being instances with them" would make Open a Solo game for them whilst STILL allowing them to influence the BGS?

Surely the instancing and blocking mechanics would also need work as all we would have to do is block EVERY cmdr we see?

Good point, as I don't have any experience with the block list I didn't realise this could circumvent the entire concept.

 

[EdzUp]

Nah that's easy fixed, just change it to a whitelist instead of a blocklist. So by default everyone is blocked and you just add your friends to the whitelist.

That would make us non PvP players very happy

But would effectively mean PowerPlay and the BGS would be in the same state they are now ie players can't see other player undermining them etc

 

[EdzUp]

Good point, as I don't have any experience with the block list I didn't realise this could circumvent the entire concept.

Yeah apparently it allows you not to be instanced with cmdrs on the list so effectively blocking everyone makes your game Solo lol

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If you want Open-only <something which is not Powerplay>? Prove to FDev that (in the long-term, not just the first few months while initial excitement shakes out) moving Powerplay to Open-only was the best decision they made, revitalising the whole PP contest and drawing masses of new players into the most exciting battles the galaxy has seen.

Given that Powerplay is probably the most suitable thing for "open-only" and everything else would have more technical, process and ideological barriers to implementation ... anything other than an unequivocal success for the move will be insufficient, I think.

 

[kpmop]

FWIW. The BGS is too big - it must run to 10s of 1000s of different factions. You could make it open only, but it'd just be 1000s of different factions mostly ignoring each other (unless they happened to be in nearby systems), so you probably wouldn't notice any difference. Moving PP to open (or just biasing it in favour of open) would/could be different because there are only a few factions to choose from, and therefore a much higher chance of generating some multi-player interaction, which I guess is what FDev are trying to achieve here.

 

[Azreh Helas]

don't get greedy.

 

[Riverside]

I am opposed this.

 

[Jmanis]

Purpose of the BGS is to provide a living, breathing universe, such that all player activity has an impact no matter how small. Making it Open-only breaks that, so it's a bad idea.

7:10
ED: What is the Background Sim?
Dav: So to us, the whole point of.... the background sim is to try and bring the galaxy to life. .... we need to make sure the galaxy responds and tracks every single player action no matter how big or how small.

1:23:48
Adam: With the background sim, there is an element to it that we don't want to give everyone absolutely everything because then it's not a background sim, it's a foreground sim...
Dav: if people notice it, we've done it wrong.

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