I'm not butthurt yet, but we'll discuss that again if huge torpedoes are added to the game. Anyway, apparantly we disagree on whether or not examples need to be accurate and relevant. Fine, we'll see in the beta in two weeks. Or I will, at least.
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I'm not butthurt yet, but we'll discuss that again if huge torpedoes are added to the game. Anyway, apparantly we disagree on whether or not examples need to be accurate and relevant. Fine, we'll see in the beta in two weeks. Or I will, at least.
That's good. Get the bugs worked out for us Xbox players.I'm not butthurt yet, but we'll discuss that again if huge torpedoes are added to the game. Anyway, apparantly we disagree on whether or not examples need to be accurate and relevant. Fine, we'll see in the beta in two weeks. Or I will, at least.
You on Prismatics: "basically rendered useless. Kind of ruins things, doesn't it?"
You on shields : "What's the point of even running shields anymore?"
You on the game in general : "Every great game also comes to an end with that one nerf that messes it all up. This could be the beginning of the end...."
You on ship choices : "we all just fly silent running FDL's now"
You on shields again : "Who needs large ships with nice shields when the shields are useless now."
Yeah definitely no whinging there.
Yes you said "I'm not one to complain but...", no I didn't miss that. [rolleyes]
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I guess you need a little English lesson on what opinion means, observation means and what complaining means. How much time did you dedicate (or waste) for copying and pasting irrelevant quotes to try to justify your point (when you're wrong). HAHA I swear some people just don't know how their brain functions. If these new weapons are effective as I think they might be, guess what, I change my loadout or fly a different ship. End of discussion.
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This is easy to figure out, there are timestamps on the posts, it will be somewhere between 0 minutes and (timestamp on my post - timestamp on the post I quoted).
I know what opinion is, I specifically said what you're saying is based on not having the facts.
You do realise it's perfectly possible to whinge about something that's opinion, I mean you're saying it's just opinion doesn't mean your post isn't a bunch of overly dramatic whinging.
I agree your post is opinion.
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There is no whinging and I don't understand why you can't understand that. You don't have any facts either so you can't possibly make an argument against me. You'd be shooting yourself in the face (which appears you like to do). What you ALSO don't understand is that my original post is also an observation based on what we know (facts) and what we have been told by FDev. I used that to formulate my post. What you also don't know is what I'm thinking. So, something to me, could be a simply observation while something to you could be entirely different. So, how can you possibly even make a statement that I am "whinging" or "complaining" without knowing my mindset or thought process AND being told directly, by ME, that I am not complaining even if, to you, it looks like it based on what you want to think. Since I am the originator in my post I am the one who holds the true meaning behind what I said and being that neither you or anyone can say otherwise. I enjoy this game just as much as the next guy and I'm willing to take whatever the game has to dish out. If I need to change my loadout or my ship then so be it. But I have also played games, in the past, that have been nerfed and that nerf ruined the gaming experience for me. Again, another opinion.
I bet you those 243mil cr. that you're still going to see shielded ships in PvP one month after 2.1 is released.
And thanks for the lols
Logic. Wat is?
When my point was that you don't have the full picture, so why not wait to see how it all plays out before preemptively proclaiming that shields are now pointless, and that this could be the "nerf" that ends ED as a game.
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Oh I agree. I will be flying my vette the same why I do now until I'm given a reason to change lol. Or just try to make the enemy SCB first and shoot the magic weapon lol.
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I'll say it one more time and hopefully more clear for you. I made my post based on what we now for sure and that's what FD has told us about the weapon. I also used what was told to us after we learned about the weapon by FDev who commented in the thread. I also used my past experiences from other games and simple observations from the community here. You are right about one thing, though. No one here will know exactly how these weapons work until we try them.
I love the fact FD seem to making the gameplay dangerous for everyone - regardless of their preferred ship. No one should feel immune to the danger.
Whilst the weapons are obviously sexy and provocative, I'm also looking forward to seeing how other items (especially the defensive componants) are implemented. Having lots of choices in outfitting, having to decide on a 'flight strategy' and knowing what type of ship encounter makes you vunerable or not, have always ben part of EDs gameplay ethos.
I hope the HRP is addressed with the cooking lasers/ammo. I'd personally like only 1 HRP to be fitted (like a shield generator is) but I also know that this would ditract from choice. This choice of squishing as many HRPs as possibile and running silent could be countered by heat generating weapons, crippling missile strikes and hard to resist utility slot choices.
I'm looking forward to this Beta with an excitment I haven't felt since the very first Beta!
Whilst the weapons are obviously sexy and provocative, I'm also looking forward to seeing how other items (especially the defensive componants) are implemented. Having lots of choices in outfitting, having to decide on a 'flight strategy' and knowing what type of ship encounter makes you vunerable or not, have always ben part of EDs gameplay ethos.
I hope the HRP is addressed with the cooking lasers/ammo. I'd personally like only 1 HRP to be fitted (like a shield generator is) but I also know that this would ditract from choice. This choice of squishing as many HRPs as possibile and running silent could be countered by heat generating weapons, crippling missile strikes and hard to resist utility slot choices.
I'm looking forward to this Beta with an excitment I haven't felt since the very first Beta!
I agree with you. There will be no point to fly these ships. FDL here i come. Forget the shields.
That might just happen. Still won't know until after beta, though. And for all we know FD might change it, too.
Are the devs going to make a load of eng mods available during the beta? Presuming it takes effort to get rep with the engineer and farm mats for them ... unless they're made freely available to buy (which then kinda spoils the surprises too) we won't find out until live
Everyone......relax.
We don't even know the base chance of a single shot collapsing a shield yet.
It may be low, so no need to start a war over something that may not even be an issue.
We don't even know the base chance of a single shot collapsing a shield yet.
It may be low, so no need to start a war over something that may not even be an issue.
I do love me some insanity
As for whether you'll be able to see special weapons on other ships before they fire at you... good question, I'm not sure we've decided yet ourselves
Or maybe a new type of scanner that can show you exactly what they've got outfitted. Something like that could become quite useful, especially in a wing battle. If one player in a wing scans a target then all members can get the details, another great reason to have support ships in battles.
Beta usually removes restrictions such as rank or, to a huge extend, credits. Pretty sure itll be go-nuts-sandbox time, with wings of heavily modded orcas force-fueling cutters.
Such doom and gloom here. From the few changes I think I'm starting to see what sort of balance they are going for.
Weapon Mods | Build
Disable (Heat) ----------counters----->Silent running
Innterupt(Cascade)-----counters----->Shield tank
Disrupt (Impact)---->counters--->Fixed weapons?? Healers? To be determined. We'll see modification, wise.
That said, The insta-break shields may be a bit much. We'll see.
Weapon Mods | Build
Disable (Heat) ----------counters----->Silent running
Innterupt(Cascade)-----counters----->Shield tank
Disrupt (Impact)---->counters--->Fixed weapons?? Healers? To be determined. We'll see modification, wise.
That said, The insta-break shields may be a bit much. We'll see.
I'll support this...and can we have VATS implemented already, so we can target the head of the pilot once the canopy is gone?
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I would vote for cancelling the cell charge and have the SCB(s) reboot instead of taking instantly down the shield.
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I'll support this...and can we have VATS implemented already, so we can target the head of the pilot once the canopy is gone?
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I would vote for cancelling the cell charge and have the SCB(s) reboot instead of taking instantly down the shield.