Buying another computer to play this game

[Hooplah]

Greetings,

My 2013 PC has issues playing ED. If I spend $5000.00 on the latest greatest gaming PC with an Intel I9 11900 CPU and the latest great series 3080 ti Nvidia card would my FPS get back to enjoying the game? Others who spent serious money are having problems after the latest updates. Some got serious spending a fortune dedicating a room to play the game. Meanwhile the Frontier Devs don't seem to have expensive 2021 computers to test and provide answers. Then maybe they do but have not come up with answers. I'm only guessing so never take my opinions as fact.

What would you do? Loving this game for 37 years or finally deciding enough is enough. Given Frontier with every update adds more problems across all versions launching the game. Maybe don't purchase that ultimate gaming computer until Frontier gives us an answer per some of the most expensive computers on the planet dealing with their current loss of FPS.

Here's my build which worked ok (50-100 fps) up to June 2021 then the FPS dropped to unplayable conditions. ED is at 2560x1440. Ultra, High or or lower doesn't matter. Recent editions in the last year were the graphics card, joystick and monitor. Not bad for an eight year old build playing ED up to this point. Now even the startup and options screens load very slow with an ISP providing 224 Mbps download and 25 Mbps upload. Still I don't discount my PC also has issues.

Intel i7-3930k Six-Core CPU (displays as 12 core)	Tt eSports Black Element 6500dpi gaming mouse
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 motherboard	Razer Blackwidow Ultimate gaming keyboard
MSI GeForge GTX 1660 Ti 6Gb GPU	Saitek X-56 throttle and Gladiator NXT joystick
(2) OCZ Solid 3 490Gb SSDs (one for OS and another for games)	Logiteck G13 advanced gameboard
(5) Seagate Barracuda 3Tb-7200RPM Sata III drives	Sennheiser PC 363D 7.1 surround gaming headset
Corsair Vengeance 48Gb DDR3-1600Mhz RAM	Corsair SP2500 2.1 232 watt gaming speaker system
Corsair Hydro H80i liquid cooling	Samson G Track Pro desk microphone
Asus Predator X34 3440x1440 21:9 curved monitor	Windows 7 Pro

PROBLEM RESOLVED with my older PC having CPU cooling problems not connected to the current game issues. Here's my post so you don't have to read five pages of this thread with many trying to figure it out. Hope that it helps others.​

 

[zombieapocalypse]

Buy a Raspberry Pi, install RetroPie and play one of the earlier Elite games

 

[Stealthie]

My own experience has been that a fairly modest new PC (Ryzen 7 3800, 16gb, GTX980ti*) seems to run EDO without significant problems.

I do see some frame-rate drops at large Odyssey surface installations but it's not a huge deal.
My monitors are only 1080p and a combination of Ultra, High and Normal graphic settings looks fine to me.

If you want to use VR or are determined to run Ultra settings, you're probably going to have to dig much deeper though.



*I bought the 980ti as an "interim" gfx card - something that'll work okay for now but will be replaced when prices are more sensible.

 

[Phazon Xenomorph]

Greetings,

My 2013 PC has issues playing ED. If I spend $5000.00 on the latest greatest gaming PC with an Intel I9 11900 CPU and the latest great series 3080 ti Nvidia card would my FPS get back to enjoying the game? Others who spent serious money are having problems after the latest updates. Some got serious spending a fortune dedicating a room to play the game. Meanwhile the Frontier Devs don't have expensive computers to give us the answers.

What would you do? Loving this game for 37 years or finally deciding enough is enough. Given Frontier with every update adds more problems across all versions launching the game. Maybe don't purchase that ultimate gaming computer until Frontier gives us an answer per some of the most expensive computers on the planet dealing with their current loss of FPS.

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Just one problem, good luck even remotely trying to obtain a CPU or GPU in any meaningful time. GPU's especially are in such a shortage that unless you feel like paying 4x the cost to a scalper (in which case shame on you) you will not be building a new PC anytime soon unless you are repurposing your old GPU.

Also new rig for this game? Nah. Not worth it. Plenty of other games out there now with devs who care more about their players.

 

[MDHansen]

since release* of Odyssey Ive been playing fine in all situations, with the occational fps hiccup. Never dipped below 60fps, most of the time 80+. All settings maxed out.
Ive sat in stations, flown in empty space, fought in CZ, flying and running around on planets, generally mucking about in the game. Don't think Ive been to any settlements doing missions though..
my rig**
i9-10900k
rtx3090
980pro ssd gaming disc
64gb 3600mhz ram
running in 4k 120hz 55" monitor

*didnt play in June-July
**FD can borrow my computer for testing purposes, you haz my deetz

 

[Hooplah]

I have every Elite version on a DOS 6.22 PC and had British computers shipped to me to play the version with the moving dice. I suspect most Frontier Devs never saw the dice.

 

[Dragsham]

I've spent about 2k here in the UK.
A grand for a prebuilt which was OK but a year old.
So changed the 2060 to a 3060, overclocked it and water cooled the cpu.
Bought a wicked chair with metal plates (see pic) to mount a 2nd hand x56 hotas.
Finally the big cahuna, the hp reverb g2 hmd. Elite in vr is beautiful
All in all 2k and I'm getting almost perfect performance I do not exaggerate.
Only stuttering is in on foot settlements on rare occasions but fdev know about it and are addressing it.
5k on a rig? No.
Not needed.

 

[Hooplah]

Just one problem, good luck even remotely trying to obtain a CPU or GPU in any meaningful time. GPU's especially are in such a shortage that unless you feel like paying 4x the cost to a scalper (in which case shame on you) you will not be building a new PC anytime soon unless you are repurposing your old GPU.

Also new rig for this game? Nah. Not worth it. Plenty of other games out there now with devs who care more about their players.

I have an awesome graphics card before the costs went ballistic. Not the issue.

 

[Andro]

My only advice is don't cheap out on a cooler, preferably a good AIO cooler. I had a poor experience with a MSI cooler, replaced with a Corsair one and my idle temps went from ~55° and much higher (up to the throttling danger zone) to idling at 28° and never going above 45° during a torture test.

The only difference between the two was around $30, and the Corsair's pump actually connected to the power supply, instead of just the motherboard. Maybe it was just me failing to notice somewhere, but I looked on both boxes afterwards, and really didn't notice much difference between the two, like with power draw or similar. You'd think something that connects to the power supply would be advertised as "heavy duty cooling" or something, but no.

 

[ꝁestrel]

It runs smoothly if you go for top-end hardware. I'm on an RTX 3090, Ryzen 5950x, and 64G DDR4 memory. Running at 4K.

Investing that much just for a single game is a bit silly. There are plenty of graphically demanding and fun games to play out there.

 

[ꝁestrel]

My only advice is don't cheap out on a cooler, preferably a good AIO cooler. I had a poor experience with a MSI cooler, replaced with a Corsair one and my idle temps went from ~55° and much higher (up to the throttling danger zone) to idling at 28° and never going above 45° during a torture test.

Very true. Especially if you buy the latest Intel CPUs. Those things run hot.

It also doesn't hurt to invest in good thermal paste and check the application of it.

 

[Phazon Xenomorph]

It runs smoothly if you go for top-end hardware. I'm on an RTX 3090, Ryzen 5950x, and 64G DDR4 memory. Running at 4K.

Investing that much just for a single game is a bit silly. There are plenty of graphically demanding and fun games to play out there.

If you have 64gigs of ram im guessing you must do CAD work or some sort of architect or design drafting? Cause there's no way even at 4k gaming you'd ever consume that much ram, not even 32gigs.

 

[ꝁestrel]

If you have 64gigs of ram im guessing you must do CAD work or some sort of architect or design drafting? Cause there's no way even at 4k gaming you'd ever consume that much ram, not even 32gigs.

Pretty much. I have special uses like experimenting with writing highly concurrent computer programs. Also very useful for processing large amounts of open data; like GAIA data releases by ESA

And of course it's nice to not have to close memory hungry programs while playing games. I can just drop out of the game and get back to whatever I was doing before that.

 

[TheMindBuddah]

Upgrade because you want to, not just for this game. My setup is based around Elite and other space games like X4. It's all I really play. I7, Samsung M.2 OS drive, dedicated Samsung game drive, 32gb and RTX 3070 running at 7680x1440p.

Performance is not your issue it's F-Dev! No DLC should cut performance with the main selling point by 3 quarters! I get 120fps in space, that drops to 60fps coming in to land and finally 30fps on foot? There is no garrentee that your going to get amazing performance even on some amazing high performance PC's, like that have been posted all over this forum.

But if your going to spend so much, if you haven't already, also consider improving your sim-pit or gaming space, as when (and if) F-Dev sort out this mess. It will feel more rewarding each time you sit down to play.

https://imgur.com/a/LmAJRRr

Source: http://imgur.com/gallery/LmAJRRr

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

Greetings,

My 2013 PC has issues playing ED. If I spend $5000.00 on the latest greatest gaming PC with an Intel I9 11900 CPU and the latest great series 3080 ti Nvidia card would my FPS get back to enjoying the game? Others who spent serious money are having problems after the latest updates. Some got serious spending a fortune dedicating a room to play the game. Meanwhile the Frontier Devs don't have expensive computers to give us the answers.

What would you do? Loving this game for 37 years or finally deciding enough is enough. Given Frontier with every update adds more problems across all versions launching the game. Maybe don't purchase that ultimate gaming computer until Frontier gives us an answer per some of the most expensive computers on the planet dealing with their current loss of FPS.

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Wait for the development of the TPU (tensor processing units) and the neural network machines: probably only the Matrix will help this game to get some reasonable performance.
For the time being I'm playing MS Flight Simulator in VR with far better performances

 

[Agony_Aunt]

My own experience has been that a fairly modest new PC (Ryzen 7 3800, 16gb, GTX980ti*) seems to run EDO without significant problems.

I do see some frame-rate drops at large Odyssey surface installations but it's not a huge deal.
My monitors are only 1080p and a combination of Ultra, High and Normal graphic settings looks fine to me.

If you want to use VR or are determined to run Ultra settings, you're probably going to have to dig much deeper though.



*I bought the 980ti as an "interim" gfx card - something that'll work okay for now but will be replaced when prices are more sensible.

Heard lots of good things about the 980ti, despite it being an older card, its held its own very well.

 

[WR3ND]

I wouldn't get a computer for Odyssey until they're done working on optimizing it and whatnot.
Speaking for myself, if I were to upgrade now, it'd probably be for one or two 3090s. I like to do crunching for distributed computing and the like sometimes. Unfortunately no "consumer" Nvidia cards perform as well as my older cards for double precision that I'm aware of.

I'm using an older computer too, high end for its time, 64GB RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro SSD and 1TB Evo system drives, 16TB WD Gold HDD storage drive (media and first stage backups), 2 Titan Black video cards, and i7-3930K at 4.2GHz (very modest overclock for this CPU with sufficient cooling and stable power) on an Asus P9X79 WS motherboard running Windows 7, Debian, and Manjaro Linux that's usually up for weeks and sometimes months at a time.

I have no plans to upgrade this computer at this point though. I've been getting a bit more into "retro" computing recently. I'm continually finding great older and "last gen." games that are just as much worth my time to play to me as anything else, never mind the catalog I already have on Steam.

Good luck.

 

[WR3ND]

My only advice is don't cheap out on a cooler, preferably a good AIO cooler. I had a poor experience with a MSI cooler, replaced with a Corsair one and my idle temps went from ~55° and much higher (up to the throttling danger zone) to idling at 28° and never going above 45° during a torture test.

The only difference between the two was around $30, and the Corsair's pump actually connected to the power supply, instead of just the motherboard. Maybe it was just me failing to notice somewhere, but I looked on both boxes afterwards, and really didn't notice much difference between the two, like with power draw or similar. You'd think something that connects to the power supply would be advertised as "heavy duty cooling" or something, but no.

I'm using a 7 year old Corsair H110 AIO. It eventually clogged up this last year so I took it apart and flushed it out, refilling with distilled water. Works like new or maybe even a slight bit better now, max CPU temp (Prim95, etc.) at about 50C, idle 30-35. I had gotten a new NZXT Kraken X63 to replace it if needed that's still on the shelf for now. When I get around to using the newer NZXT, I plan on gutting the electronic RGB and fan controller type junk off of it, since I use the fan controller on my motherboard.

Most of the AIOs are made by one manufacturer, Asetek, who own the pump on the heat plate design copyright, and rebranded for whatever given vendor, including MSI, NZXT, and Corsair (though I guess some of their newer pumps and coolers are independently made), with their RGB branding and controller type electronics added on top.

I primarily like the AIOs because they can exhaust the heated air out instead of mixing it around in the case, like my GPU cards.

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[WR3ND]

It runs smoothly if you go for top-end hardware. I'm on an RTX 3090, Ryzen 5950x, and 64G DDR4 memory. Running at 4K.

Investing that much just for a single game is a bit silly. There are plenty of graphically demanding and fun games to play out there.

It's a bit subjective at any rate. There are others with similar hardware saying it doesn't run very well for them.

Either way, Odyssey is poorly optimized and they're still working on it, so yeah, I wouldn't upgrade just for Odyssey yet unless you have several thousand burning a hole in your pocket, and even then, I'd think your money is probably better spent elsewhere. But of course, to each their own.

 

[Pigletslastand]

Or just wait a few more months for the optimizations to find their mark and the game should run ok.