Call to Arms for a Free Colonia

Just Paul

Just Paul
Vetinari said:
Carcosa is in or nearly at war again, possibly with a different faction, but now LR are suggesting that another pmf (Civitas Dei) is the real 'pretender' to the throne supported by SPEAR et al. This is slightly different from 'wiping out' LR (as wiped out as BGS allows) so LR may be more 'in the way' than 'the target'.
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Civitas Dei is the faction we are at "open" war with since Feb 3306. Around that time the 2nd in command of SEPP/EN was visiting the nebula and it can be inferred that a pact between Civitas and SEPP/EN was forged to remove The Nameless from control in Carcosa and Loren's Reapers from Colonia. There is no proof of the pact yet, so that part is speculative. We know the remove The Nameless and Loren's Reapers part as Civitas stated it in CEI. Also some of their pilots came to Carcosa to taunt us periodically. And yes Mustafar the Finnish are here but they are fighting for a free Colonia, not for being oppressed by Dear Leader.

With Civitas now suddenly being the top contender for control of Carcosa, even an outsider could see what their real goals are. Especially if you also look at how they behave and interact with other groups in the bubble. During talking with groups who interacted with Civitas in the bubble it became clear that there will be not negotiations possible with them. Who else shoots each other daily for bounties? This immoral behavior was observed long before SPEAR arrived in Colonia. SPEAR just adopted it.
Nobody in Colonia, beside Civitas' named and unnamed partners in crime, have anything positive to say about them. Unfortunately that small group of factions has over 1000 people to their disposal, no real chance against them even if the rest bands together to fight them openly. Guerilla warfare is the only thing from now on. For example one of our black ops teams helped the locals to setup a control war in one of Civitas' Colonia systems, Kinesi. The native factions are rising up against their oppressors and it will be just the start of things to come.

We might be the loudest, but we are just one small part of the people opposing the make-numbers-bigger bubble powers.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Tharrn said:
Don't get me going about the Jaques Accord, also called the "stagnat cesspool phase" of an exclusive club forcing it's boring vision of Colonia down the throats of the independent original settlers. I wish some people had never set foot into the area.
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Oh, the actual text of the Jaques Accords was basically irrelevant. It just made clear that the original CCN's claim to represent "the Colonia community" was ... lets say, making "the" do a lot of work, which had been true from the start but neither provable nor particularly important until the CEI factions had visible presence and homes in the nebula.

Ironically the uncontested part of the Jaques Accords - what if there was a place without the constant inter-group and inter-Power conflicts of the bubble - was the bit that while the CEI factions largely had obvious interest in supporting, was equally the aim of the original CCN, and even of the "explorers' utopia" settlers for whom Colonia Council was a bit too BGSy. They just had very different interpretations of how that was to be achieved.

The CEI methods largely worked in practice, which was obviously a big advantage over the other two approaches.

Equally of course the CEI doesn't represent all the Colonia communities, but it largely never claimed to. LRCV have raised a particular question about the scope it does cover - or rather re-raised, since I mentioned it as a possibility in the old CCN days - and you could view this current conflict as a disagreement about the answer.
 

LeKeno

LeKeno
Since we are in retrospective mode, when and how did LRCV bring The Nameless in control of Carcosa? Is that well documented? Who among today's LRCV and who else than LRCV was involved?

Who was controlling it before that? Where and what were the previous owners doing at the time of the change?
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
LeKeno said:
Since we are in retrospective mode, when and how did LRCV bring The Nameless in control of Carcosa? Is that well documented? Who among today's LRCV and who else than LRCV was involved?

Who was controlling it before that? Where and what were the previous owners doing at the time of the change?
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Please continue - these events preceded my arrival in Colonia and it would be useful to hear at least one side of the tale.
 

Jellicoe

Jellicoe
The Nameless were the original rulers of Carcosa, it was subsequently conquered by Explorers Nation, Loren's Reapers then restored The Nameless to power while Explorers Nation were presumably off exploring. Perhaps if they spent more time exploring and less expanding their little empire where it isn't wanted Colonia would be a happier and more peaceful place.
 

Larzok

Larzok
LeKeno said:
Since we are in retrospective mode, when and how did LRCV bring The Nameless in control of Carcosa? Is that well documented? Who among today's LRCV and who else than LRCV was involved?

Who was controlling it before that? Where and what were the previous owners doing at the time of the change?
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TLDR Meta story answer. EN had taken Carcosa at some time after the Nameless injection anoyyed a lot of people and god handed away BGS work. Historical hate for the Nameless runs deep due to how they showed up as an NPC faction in the nebula. Fast forward to DW2, People are out doing their thing, dodging DG flying about in the black together. LRCV take the Rock while EN are for the most part out of town, and petition to join the CEI. After much debate, and clear lines being drawn LRCV are voted in and a new CEI entrance method is developed to deal with other new adopties.

This covers the period around ish and before Distant Worlds 2 time stamp. This is not a full and complete recounting as i'm getting old and the brain meat struggles to remember the minutia and could probably bear fleshing out.

-Larzok, CEI Representitive of the Order of the Wandering Siamese, a recognized Sect of the Church of the Space Cat

Edit: for silly word censor of fairly inoffensive word
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Jellicoe said:
The Nameless were the original rulers of Carcosa, it was subsequently conquered by Explorers Nation, Loren's Reapers then restored The Nameless to power while Explorers Nation were presumably off exploring. Perhaps if they spent more time exploring and less expanding their little empire where it isn't wanted Colonia would be a happier and more peaceful place.
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Funnily, at that time I was still part of Operation Ida, but part time resident of Colonia, and got wind of the whole situation by a later CODE member whom I knew from PG times.
Met the Reapers, including Phisto whom I knew from the Forums and the bubble, took a (then to be thought short) vacation of Operation Ida and joined LRCV. The rest is history.
 

Just Paul

Just Paul
LeKeno said:
Since we are in retrospective mode, when and how did LRCV bring The Nameless in control of Carcosa? Is that well documented? Who among today's LRCV and who else than LRCV was involved?

Who was controlling it before that? Where and what were the previous owners doing at the time of the change?
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Carcosa is The Nameless' home system, they are the only native faction and therefore rightful owner. Carcosa was occupied by SEPP/EN for a long time. There were attempts of groups supporting The Nameless to right that wrong long before LR showed up. Some of the people fighting on our side now helped SEEP/EN in that conflicts, just to find out that they were looking to annex more of the nebula for themselves. These groups are opposing SEPP/EN since that time.
In the 2 followup wars in Carcosa for the 2 outposts LR was supported by multiple local factions. Our local friends list is much longer than our foe one. Their are some big surprises on it, especially with respect to the false DW2 narrative. A treaty between LR and SEPP/EN was signed after the first war and LR becoming a member of CEI. It was also ratified in CEI. You should have the screenshots of it. LR upheld and still is upholding their end of that treaty, there SEPP/EN is now in breach of 2 articles.

I came to the nebula by the time of the control wars in Pennsylvania and the war for Aragon Silo in Carcosa. Did you know that the "Battle of Ratraii" was organized between a CL76 member and me after they tried to kill me in a 3v1 in Carcosa earlier on that day? Another fun fact for you is that LR sponsored CL76 to become a member of CEI. CL76 walked away from it though, don't know why.
The whole LR came to Colonia because EN was out exploring is just a made up narrative, we don't do that much planning ever. Remember we are an Anarchy faction. We don't have leaders, Generale, hierarchy, or any of that stuff. Everybody is equal, that's why we can do what we do with not that many people, combined wisdom is a wonderful thing.


Want some unbiased information from an outside source start reading here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aXPVsYBYjhMLPp4zu9RJfKKoxZFgP9Iz/view?usp=sharing. Of course Ian doesn't have the insides into the political parts as being not part of that, but it should give you some more insides into Colonia and the things going on.
 
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Jellicoe

Jellicoe
Don't let anyone think that we are newcomers to Colonia seeking to spread chaos and opposed by the natives, we have been here for over a year peacefully and productively, the locals support us. This is two bubble based factions shipping in huge numbers from their bubble based empires to impose their will on Colonia and having the sheer brass neck to try to claim the moral high ground.
 
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Vetinari said:
CCN? Colonia Counci...?
SEPP?
CEI?
LRCV? Loren's Reapers...?
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CCN: Colonia Citizens' Network. The modern one is a faction homed in Centralis, a BGS player group which supports it, and the remains of the original one's Discord server. The original one would take a lot more explanation, not least because it wasn't clear to itself what it was.

Colonia Council: the NPC faction representing ... well, that's not entirely clear and I expect has been left deliberately ambiguous, but let's say representing Colonia as a whole, to which other nebula factions (again, ambiguous as to whether this includes the Anarchy ones) are described as "partner organisations". If you do a search on the Galnet archive for it you'll get some idea.

SEPP: Social Eleu Progressive Party, one of the two bubble groups (the other was Corsairos de Heimdal) which jointly founded the Explorers' Nation (EN) group to compete in the Colonia Expansion Initiative (CEI) Community Goals (CGs). As SEPP, came 3rd in the Dangerous Games, a contest to become a new Powerplay power. As part of Explorers' Nation, one of the first round winners of the CEI CGs.

CEI: Colonia Expansion Initiative. Can refer to any of:
- the expansion and development, in general, of the Colonia region. I have a CEI decal from a CG in the "Tir Research Labs" storyline, which is unconnected to the more usual meanings of CEI, especially for this thread.
- the specific series of six unusual CGs which competitively determined which groups (some based on existing bubble factions, some entirely new) would be entitled to settle surface bases in the region. These took place in the first half of 3303.
- the factions or systems created by those CGs and/or the player groups which back them
- the Discord server used as a diplomatic channel by the CG winners (and more recently, by some other politically significant groups)
Generally you can tell which is meant from context

LRCV: Yes, an abbreviation for Loren's Reapers, based on the squadron tag they use.

...and some others you didn't ask for which have already come up elsewhere, or might do:

SECD: Societas Eruditorum de Civitas Dei. One of the winners of the first round of the CEI CGs, founded by the Civitas Dei (squadron tag CIDE) player group.

NLHG: No Look Here Gang. An Anarchy faction in the Pennsylvania system, who obtained control with (among others) LRCV support during the Third Regional Conflict, and whose deposing by (among others) SECD in early February marks the start of the Fifth Regional Conflict.

Regional Conflict: a deliberate and contested conflict between at least two identifiable groups in the region with a territorial scope or implications greater than a single system. There have been six, of various sizes and lengths, since the founding of the region.

ICU/CIU: Communism Interstellar. The undisputed best quantitative BGS analysts - no-one else comes close - and managers of a substantial Communist region on the fringes of the bubble. Their ICU Colonial Corps branch was another first round CEI CG winner.

TNO: The New Order. Another pro-Anarchist group which has played a part in both the Third and Fifth Regional Conflicts.

CL76: Colonial Legionnaires. A small group aligned to Ratraii's Colonia Cooperative faction, one of the oldest factions in the region. The '76' in their squadron tag I believe comes from Ratraii's systematic name of Eol Prou LW-L c8-76

SPEAR: A coalition of several vigilante/bounty hunter groups. They have loosely identified themselves with Randgnid's Colonia Defence Force faction for the purposes of regional narrative.

EEF: Either the faction or its home system Earth Expeditionary Fleet, determine which from context. A 5th round CEI CG winner, founded by the exploration wing of the long-established Earth Defence Fleet bubble group. The system was captured by the Nameless during the 3rd Regional Conflict, and returned to EEF control recently.

A map: https://cdb.sotl.org.uk/map#XZ~C:control~C:control~P~1~0~0
 

Nikephorus Phocas

Nikephorus Phocas
Ian Doncaster said:
CCN: Colonia Citizens' Network. The modern one is a faction homed in Centralis, a BGS player group which supports it, and the remains of the original one's Discord server. The original one would take a lot more explanation, not least because it wasn't clear to itself what it was.

Colonia Council: the NPC faction representing ... well, that's not entirely clear and I expect has been left deliberately ambiguous, but let's say representing Colonia as a whole, to which other nebula factions (again, ambiguous as to whether this includes the Anarchy ones) are described as "partner organisations". If you do a search on the Galnet archive for it you'll get some idea.

SEPP: Social Eleu Progressive Party, one of the two bubble groups (the other was Corsairos de Heimdal) which jointly founded the Explorers' Nation (EN) group to compete in the Colonia Expansion Initiative (CEI) Community Goals (CGs). As SEPP, came 3rd in the Dangerous Games, a contest to become a new Powerplay power. As part of Explorers' Nation, one of the first round winners of the CEI CGs.

CEI: Colonia Expansion Initiative. Can refer to any of:
  • the expansion and development, in general, of the Colonia region. I have a CEI decal from a CG in the "Tir Research Labs" storyline, which is unconnected to the more usual meanings of CEI, especially for this thread.
  • the specific series of six unusual CGs which competitively determined which groups (some based on existing bubble factions, some entirely new) would be entitled to settle surface bases in the region. These took place in the first half of 3303.
  • the factions or systems created by those CGs and/or the player groups which back them
  • the Discord server used as a diplomatic channel by the CG winners (and more recently, by some other politically significant groups)
Generally you can tell which is meant from context

LRCV: Yes, an abbreviation for Loren's Reapers, based on the squadron tag they use.

...and some others you didn't ask for which have already come up elsewhere, or might do:

SECD: Societas Eruditorum de Civitas Dei. One of the winners of the first round of the CEI CGs, founded by the Civitas Dei (squadron tag CIDE) player group.

NLHG: No Look Here Gang. An Anarchy faction in the Pennsylvania system, who obtained control with (among others) LRCV support during the Third Regional Conflict, and whose deposing by (among others) SECD in early February marks the start of the Fifth Regional Conflict.

Regional Conflict: a deliberate and contested conflict between at least two identifiable groups in the region with a territorial scope or implications greater than a single system. There have been six, of various sizes and lengths, since the founding of the region.

ICU/CIU: Communism Interstellar. The undisputed best quantitative BGS analysts - no-one else comes close - and managers of a substantial Communist region on the fringes of the bubble. Their ICU Colonial Corps branch was another first round CEI CG winner.

TNO: The New Order. Another pro-Anarchist group which has played a part in both the Third and Fifth Regional Conflicts.

CL76: Colonial Legionnaires. A small group aligned to Ratraii's Colonia Cooperative faction, one of the oldest factions in the region. The '76' in their squadron tag I believe comes from Ratraii's systematic name of Eol Prou LW-L c8-76

SPEAR: A coalition of several vigilante/bounty hunter groups. They have loosely identified themselves with Randgnid's Colonia Defence Force faction for the purposes of regional narrative.

EEF: Either the faction or its home system Earth Expeditionary Fleet, determine which from context. A 5th round CEI CG winner, founded by the exploration wing of the long-established Earth Defence Fleet bubble group. The system was captured by the Nameless during the 3rd Regional Conflict, and returned to EEF control recently.

A map: https://cdb.sotl.org.uk/map#XZ~C:control~C:control~P~1~0~0
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Great Lore history lesson!!
 

Tharrn

Tharrn
Ian Doncaster said:
CCN: Colonia Citizens' Network. The modern one is a faction homed in Centralis, a BGS player group which supports it, and the remains of the original one's Discord server. The original one would take a lot more explanation, not least because it wasn't clear to itself what it was.
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In short the original CCN was a community. There was only Jaques and no (BGS) politics. A lot of positive projects were going on at that time. Ah, we had utopian dreams.
 
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