Call to Arms for a Free Colonia

Just Paul

Just Paul
PSA: This is a call to every freedom loving CMDRs in Colonia to help Order of the West's against the tyrannical regime of Civitas Dei. Civitas Dei pushed in the last days in OotW's home system of Morpheus and triggered today a war for control. It is very regrettable that a party not involved in this conflict is dragged into it for unknown reasons. Conflict zones should be starting to appear tomorrow. Thanks to everybody helping out.

And again Order of the West's (OotW's) is not Order of the Wandering Siamese(OotWS). Their home is in Poe!!

Viva la Resistance
 

Eli Jack

Eli Jack
Paul Smith the 3rd said:
PSA: This is a call to every freedom loving CMDRs in Colonia to help Order of the West's against the tyrannical regime of Civitas Dei. Civitas Dei pushed in the last days in OotW's home system of Morpheus and triggered today a war for control. It is very regrettable that a party not involved in this conflict is dragged into it for unknown reasons. Conflict zones should be starting to appear tomorrow. Thanks to everybody helping out.

And again Order of the West's (OotW's) is not Order of the Wandering Siamese(OotWS). Their home is in Poe!!

Viva la Resistance
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Thank goodness for that! We've been sat around getting bored and a bored dragon is not something you want, he tends to scorch things. So I tell him that tomorrow we'll be rocking against CIDE once again and this was his reaction:

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Hot dawg! It's party time tonight. Later we'll decamp from $^*!&%$£ (sorry, message got scrambled there) and set course for Morpheus.

We do so love the smell of burning ships in the morning.
 

Eli Jack

Eli Jack
Update:

We arrived at West Base.

I left Jaclyn, the SLF pilot polishing and getting the Taipans and Condors ready with strict instructions not to let the dragon wander around because he will melt whatever he wants to and that probably wouldn't go down well with The Order of the West's. Can't have a melted base to launch from or return to.

I, on the other hand, went on an engineering spree for a newly aquired FdL. This is my sixth attempt at trying to get on with one, I don't like them at all really and I'm aware that it's my shortcomings as a pilot that's the real cause of the problems I have with it although that strut does my head in. I really don't care if it's 'the meta', I don't like it. Still, I've made a ton of money fighting in CZs so I thought, why not?

After doing most of the engineering except the PP and PD which, for now, I'm making do with Guardian stuff, I've found it passable. Not great by any means, I much prefer the FAS and Chieftan/Challenger but I'll keep it around for now and if it's only good for playing the BGS then that will do. I consider it a throw away ship.

I've got back to base and the dragon is sleeping, thank goodness, and all is quiet... for now. I'm going to get some shut eye and tomorrow we'll roll again.

Here be Dragons.

Ps: A strange fact. 'Eye of the Dragon' was born well before Fleet Carriers. My FC has GOT as the last three letters of it's ID. When I came to Carcosa I hired the first 'Harmless' SLF pilot on the crew list at Robardin Rock. Her name? Jaclyn Stark. Spooky no?
 

Eli Jack

Eli Jack
What the heck is going on out in the far lands?

I've been gone for a month and CIDE are running riot over the EN. See what happens when you invite a snake into your home EN? You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh. Oh, I know, why don't you ask SPEAR and the mistress of CI to come to your rescue? Ohmigod, stop it! I can't laugh any more.

I'm torn between staying in the bubble and pursuing my own projects or relocating back to Colonia so I can be there to say, "I saw it first hand when the EN were ousted from all systems apart from Union where they have 1% inf." "Now listen children. This is what happens when you sup with the devil."

I'll make a deal with the EN here and now. I'll come and help you in your fight against oblivion in Colonia when you agree to aid The Reapers in re-taking Carcosa for the Nameless, the ONLY native faction and constructors of Robardin Rock.

As you're a bunch of half-wits, I won't hold my breath.
 

Isaiah Evanson

Isaiah Evanson
Before everything fell through completely, I had invited Kancro into our discord as a guest - didn't really expect him to actually show up. But he did. He messaged me after and, seemingly, expressed the genuine sentiment that he might not have been accurate in his initial assessment that we were all just gankers and griefers. Couple of days later I asked what his proposal for peace would be. As I understand it, he was forced into a corner and unable to convince his allies - presumably CIDE and others - to come to the table.

Perhaps we're seeing what they really think of him. Perhaps they perceive him as weak and are carving up his little fiefdom for the sin of challenging their dominion.

Will you surprise me again, Kancro? Will you clarify the situation for all of those who have been watching? What sort of arrangement do you have with CIDE that sees them controlling all of your former holdings?

As Eli said, I won't hold my breath that you will.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Isaiah Evanson said:
Before everything fell through completely, I had invited Kancro into our discord as a guest - didn't really expect him to actually show up. But he did. He messaged me after and, seemingly, expressed the genuine sentiment that he might not have been accurate in his initial assessment that we were all just gankers and griefers. Couple of days later I asked what his proposal for peace would be. As I understand it, he was forced into a corner and unable to convince his allies - presumably CIDE and others - to come to the table.

Perhaps we're seeing what they really think of him. Perhaps they perceive him as weak and are carving up his little fiefdom for the sin of challenging their dominion.

Will you surprise me again, Kancro? Will you clarify the situation for all of those who have been watching? What sort of arrangement do you have with CIDE that sees them controlling all of your former holdings?

As Eli said, I won't hold my breath that you will.
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I have a similar challenge, with both a (simple) general anti-anarchy stance from many players & groups, but also a (more nuanced) guilt by association. The Faction I'm in helps everyone, including some that others don't want to be receiving help. It takes some diplomacy, but mostly I need to make sure any retaliatory actions I take are proportionate - it doesn't take much of an excuse for many to attack my stuff.

If my stuff were crushed I'd have a lot more time to go on the offensive; I keep my enemies busy with misdirection, they keep me busy too. If they behave (demonstrate respect for my boundaries) I respect theirs.

Long term, not rocking the boat is important for peace & quiet. Open war is fun but ultimately nobody wins. A delicate balance borne out of respect for your neighbours & opponents.

I wish I had more time to help.
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
Riverside said:
I have a similar challenge, with both a (simple) general anti-anarchy stance from many players & groups, but also a (more nuanced) guilt by association. The Faction I'm in helps everyone, including some that others don't want to be receiving help. It takes some diplomacy, but mostly I need to make sure any retaliatory actions I take are proportionate - it doesn't take much of an excuse for many to attack my stuff.
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I'm keeping an eye on one particular system on inara. Normally the system gets hardly any traffic at all, and with the recent shuffle of commodity prices might become less useful, but recently a couple of carriers have showed up that as far as I can tell have lawful anti-ganker squadron tags on them.
Nobody ever gets ganked in that system that I know of. Or even near it, it's a backwater. But it's also a high population anarchy system that ticks the right boxes for NPC miners with LTDs to spawn regularly in supercruise. It's one of the better systems out there for that activity when it goes into boom. As far as I'm aware it's a bunch of xbox players that look after it.

I'm just waiting to see if they pull off an invasion to take something away from people that do nothing but mind their own business then have the gall to act like they're anything other than the aggressors.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Screemonster said:
I'm keeping an eye on one particular system on inara. Normally the system gets hardly any traffic at all, and with the recent shuffle of commodity prices might become less useful, but recently a couple of carriers have showed up that as far as I can tell have lawful anti-ganker squadron tags on them.
Nobody ever gets ganked in that system that I know of. Or even near it, it's a backwater. But it's also a high population anarchy system that ticks the right boxes for NPC miners with LTDs to spawn regularly in supercruise. It's one of the better systems out there for that activity when it goes into boom. As far as I'm aware it's a bunch of xbox players that look after it.

I'm just waiting to see if they pull off an invasion to take something away from people that do nothing but mind their own business then have the gall to act like they're anything other than the aggressors.
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The one with the cool (weather related) name? I've not been there so I can't see its system map but presumably it has rings, and rings & Anarchy factions aren't naturally stable imo. I keep my home in Boom, I don't really have a deep understanding of what other players look for with state dependant spawns & USSs but it seems to work. My region used to be quiet but there is enough regular traffic now that there could be others working to maintain it so it can be farmed, but my only motivation for flipping it was the cool name ;)

It doesn't need much motivation for players to flip a system away from Anarchy, I try to avoid giving anyone more motivation to than I absolutely must, and I try to make sure those that try have more pressing matters to distract them :)
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
Riverside said:
The one with the cool (weather related) name? I've not been there so I can't see its system map but presumably it has rings, and rings & Anarchy factions aren't naturally stable imo. I keep my home in Boom, I don't really have a deep understanding of what other players look for with state dependant spawns & USSs but it seems to work. My region used to be quiet but there is enough regular traffic now that there could be others working to maintain it so it can be farmed, but my only motivation for flipping it was the cool name ;)

It doesn't need much motivation for players to flip a system away from Anarchy, I try to avoid giving anyone more motivation to than I absolutely must, and I try to make sure those that try have more pressing matters to distract them :)
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If you mean the one you see me in a lot, that doesn't have rings, nor does the other one. Rings are actually not a desired trait.

You want a system with an industrial economy station, no other economies present, and no rings or belts, and ideally no powerplay presence.
Having other economies and powerplay present adds more junk to the spawn table (like when I was based out of Fiden before carriers were a thing, if I flew around in supercruise and saw a T7 it was almost certainly a powerplay NPC) whereas having rings and belts means that when a miner does spawn, they're carrying the things that are appropriate to those rings/belts, so if you're pirating in a system with icy rings they could have LTDs or tritium, but they're equally likely to be carrying 70 tons of methane clathrates.

Needless to say, finding an industrial system with no other economies, no rings or belts, no powerplay, isn't already part of another player group's territory, doesn't have the station 100kls away from the primary star, and isn't so far out in the sticks that you need to jump a carrier if you ever want a shot at interacting with people... let's just say they're not common.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Screemonster said:
If you mean the one you see me in a lot, that doesn't have rings, nor does the other one. Rings are actually not a desired trait.

You want a system with an industrial economy station, no other economies present, and no rings or belts, and ideally no powerplay presence.
Having other economies and powerplay present adds more junk to the spawn table (like when I was based out of Fiden before carriers were a thing, if I flew around in supercruise and saw a T7 it was almost certainly a powerplay NPC) whereas having rings and belts means that when a miner does spawn, they're carrying the things that are appropriate to those rings/belts, so if you're pirating in a system with icy rings they could have LTDs or tritium, but they're equally likely to be carrying 70 tons of methane clathrates.

Needless to say, finding an industrial system with no other economies, no rings or belts, no powerplay, isn't already part of another player group's territory, doesn't have the station 100kls away from the primary star, and isn't so far out in the sticks that you need to jump a carrier if you ever want a shot at interacting with people... let's just say they're not common.
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Guess I got lucky then ;)

It's been my home since early 2018 & flipped to Anarchy earlier this year, my original home (a nearby system, my home since early 2015) was flipped by powerplayers while I was away exploring the galaxy for 18 months.

Working within the powerplay rules is a layer of complexity Colonia doesn't have to be concerned about, but I have a good working relationship with (most of) the locals, including powerplay & work with them to keep local bubble(s) stable. By working with neighbours I actually got my old home back (by flipping a chain of other systems). It was quite emotional to have so many help me achieve that purely personal goal at no benefit to themselves, I helped them but there was no expectation that they help me in return. They just wanted to help :)

I've achieved pretty much all of the goals I set out to achieve in my neighbourhood, and I am left in the slightly dull situation of defending what I have built.

Choose a place & declare it to be yours. If it's worth anything, others will want it too. And even if it isn't, others may just want you to not have it. It's just a massive game of capture the flag, and if someone takes your flag, well you must devise a plan to get it back, even if it takes two years ;)
 
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