Clearly innocent Federation systems are not enough for the Empire's aggressive expansionist attitude.
Calling all Federation Commanders - We are at War with the Empire
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Clearly innocent Federation systems are not enough for the Empire's aggressive expansionist attitude.
I would dispute the fact that a Federation system is "innocent", I am sure there are Independent systems that would also accuse the Federation of being expansionist. An empty earth like is always going to be preferable to taking a planet by force. Having said that, the taking of a system by force is a necessary training schedule.
Typical Imperial attitude: The deaths of brave pilots defending their system, their families, against an invading navy is seen as nothing more than a "training schedule".
Knowledge is power. The more we train the more effective we become. The brave pilots defending their system always have the option of joining the Empire. We do not hold past misdemeanors against any potential applicant.
When you only provide one choice, there's not much to choose.
In Defense of Volungu - Tier 1 reached
Commanders I bring good news.
We have just reached tier 1 in the Volungu community goal. However, we still have a long way to go here and the clock is ticking.
I urge all commanders to come and support us in this war.
Commanders I bring good news.
We have just reached tier 1 in the Volungu community goal. However, we still have a long way to go here and the clock is ticking.
I urge all commanders to come and support us in this war.
Excellent news Commander! Volungu shall prevail!
Don't be a hypocrite, you're acting like the Federation doesn't expand and invade. Let me tell you something, I have lived in and seen firsthand the politics of the Federation, the Alliance, and the Empire. Every single one of them conducts intersystem politics and war almost the same way. The least expansionist of the three is the Alliance, and it was not out of peace-loving intentions but weakness and the fledgling nature of their struggling confederate government.
I do not condone what recently happened to Kui Hsien, and I did not participate in that battle. I, however, do believe that the people of Volungu will be freer under Imperial rule if they are not made Imperial Slaves.
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Volungu is too hot for me to help Patron's Principles. Both CZs are crawling with Federal CMDRs.
I reckon the Federal defence will be successful. However, it remains to be seen how much of a true victory this is going to be as an Imperial defeat is likely to trigger a response from the senate. It'll be interesting to see the outcome once we have an Imperial CG as a banner to rally to. Maybe Volungu or Liaden are going to witness the 1st serious superpower clash in decades - just in time for powerplay too!
I reckon the Federal defence will be successful. However, it remains to be seen how much of a true victory this is going to be as an Imperial defeat is likely to trigger a response from the senate. It'll be interesting to see the outcome once we have an Imperial CG as a banner to rally to. Maybe Volungu or Liaden are going to witness the 1st serious superpower clash in decades - just in time for powerplay too!
Everyone is free, if they are not made into slaves.
Define free and define slave.
It is perfectly understandable that an Imperialist would not know the difference.
That's your response!
We definitely do know what freedom means in the Empire and we nurture it. We also know what slavery is. We contrast freedom with our lowest social class and we do not disguise it's nature nor discard our impoverished citizens to the misery of destitution and despair, telling them in their deprivation and hopelessness, that they are free citizens of a savage and uncaring culture .
Imperial society has hierarchy and structure that is as solid as a mountain, and just as magnificent too. It's peak may beyond reach in it's majesty but it's slopes are open to all citizens who strive to better themselves.
That's your response!
We definitely do know what freedom means in the Empire and we nurture it. We also know what slavery is. We contrast freedom with our lowest social class and we do not disguise it's nature nor discard our impoverished citizens to the misery of destitution and despair, telling them in their deprivation and hopelessness, that they are free citizens of a savage and uncaring culture .
Imperial society has hierarchy and structure that is as solid as a mountain, and just as magnificent too. It's peak may beyond reach in it's majesty but it's slopes are open to all citizens who strive to better themselves.
Did you learn that in "Imperial Preaching to the sheep 101"?
The Empire, for most people, is more free than the corrupt, socialist bureaucracy of the Federation.
How much do your people pay in taxes? Around 40-50%? Do you know what the serfs of ancient medieval Earth paid? 18%, and that was considered pure oppression. Let's face it, half of your labor is effectively slave labor with your tax rates. You get no pay for half your work. That's half-slavery for every man and woman in the Federation. Slavery, as evil as it is wherever it is practiced, is at least statistically obscure in the empire, and at least there are contracts that limit it and make it a mutual agreement for many, if not all slaves.
Any wholesale enslavement of a people is evil, I strongly disagree with Patreus's actions. But that was 33,000 people, how many hundreds of millions can seek liberty in the Empire that they would not be able to have in the Federation?
If we can manage to abolish slavery, there will be nothing left for you incompetents to demonize us with, and your illusion of freedom will become ever more transparent.
I had the misfortune of growing up in the Federation, I know it better than you think. I chose the Empire.
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The empire has no tax? All your police, your armies, your politicians... everyone that doesn't produce a physical product that can be bartered, do it out of the kindness of their hearts?
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Wholesale enslavement of unwilling people is just a small step over a very vague line when slavery... oh sorry... "indentured servitude" is deemed acceptable by the "masters".
Even if your pretty tales were accurate commander, being a "half-slave" is better than being an actual slave, bought and sold as property. Every citizen in the Federation has a vote and every citizen, even your mythical "half-slave", has the opportunity to make a better life for themselves regardless of which social caste they are born into. They may even rise to the highest political office if they so desire and if they so apply themselves. Yes we may have our share of bureaucracy, and yes, we may have some corruption within the government but in the Federation we, the citizens, have the power to change our leaders if they do not measure up, without them having to stab each other in the back, literally.
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