Maybe my previous statement was not accurate. What I meant is that, to a certain extent, we don’t have to care too much about whether they are “endangered animals”. I agree that more endangered species should be used to call for the protection of animals, but sometimes, we can be flexible. I personally think that “endangered species” + “common species in zoos” is a good combination.
Can anyone tell me why we can't get a deer?
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I don't think anyone is "ignoring" deer. They aren't often someone's favourite animal, so they just don't come up much on wishlists. It's just the way it is.
I don't want to elaborate too much on this issue. From a statistical point of view, the data collected from different platforms can only represent the preferences of people on that platform. For example, the Tasmanian devil is very popular here, but this is not the case in the data collected by some YTB bloggers.
And whilst all of that is true, it seems obvious at this point that their official channels (aka the forum) are their primary source for feedback (logically so, you can't expect them to feedback farm on every single platform). I totally get the statistics side of it, but it's a moot point given that it's not really relevant to the discussion and to what @NZFanatic was trying to point out.
I like deer although I gotta say they don’t really rank very high on my personal preference of missing animals currently. I guess for me it probably has to do with having white tail deer so common in our area. I’d say I see them almost everyday so animals I never or rarely get a chance to see are a little more captivating. I will say though I’m very surprised between the red deer and fallow that we haven’t received at least one more deer though.
To be honest, I don't understand your definition of "not really". Maybe my expression or wording is not accurate. Let me explain in more detail: I just want to express that the description of "not people's favorite animal" itself may represent some objective facts, such as giant pandas, tigers and lions, elephants, rhinos, hippos, giraffes, etc. are always popular stars in zoos. I agree with this. But no matter which platform's wish list, many of their statistical calibers are "I want", not "I like it most" or "I only like it". Yes, deer are indeed not some people's favorite animals, but among the nearly 200 animals we currently have, how many of them are people's favorite animals? In fact, there are not many animals that people have exclusive, favorite ones, and some of them are highly controversial (some people like them very much, some people don't want them, but that's okay). Can we express: "Well... this animal is not my favorite, but I want it"? I think we can. I just want to express that given that we have so many crocodiles, so many penguins, and so many antelopes, given these objective facts. Deer, especially deer whose origins are not in Europe, are obviously ignored. And some of us want them, including me, and in my opinion, that's just being ignored, that's all.
If we use the condition of "excluding deer whose origin is in Europe or one of their origins is Europe" as the filtering condition for the four types of deer currently in the game, what are we left with? I think we will have nothing left.
I want to emphasize again that our desire for a certain animal has nothing to do with whether it is our favorite. "I want" can definitely be a legitimate reason for us to want a certain animal. It doesn't have to be "my favorite".
Although not one of my favorite animals I wouldn’t mind having 5-9 species to choose from tbh. I think the main reason has a lot to do with frontier has limited slots although no one knows for sure how many frontier has planned and being a business that has to cater to the casual market as well is certain animals probably sell better than others. I do however think that the ABB could still get in. And depending on the pack of course I would think a white tail or mule deer etc. could sneak in as well.
I think that I might have confused you, sorry about that. But what I ment is that I think we're getting any endangered pack, and that's why the PD deer would fit nicely.
Any reason is entirely subjective as it is. Every reason is as valid as any other.
Just begging to get any deer or antelope for India/South Asia. In the most deer-rich continent, India/South Asia is the most rich in a combination of deer and antelope, and we have not a single species that even lives CLOSE. It's genuinely impossible to make meaningful Indian zoos or habitats without one and there are so many obvious options. Even though East Asia doesn't have a cervid, the Palearctic at least has a few; the Indomalaya realm has literally zero deer or antelope 
which I feel is the reverse situation of pheasants.
Since this thread is deer-specific, I'll stump for the northern muntjac, especially because with limited slots remaining it'll give us a species that works for all three major deer-missing subregions (India/South, China/East, and Southeast) as well as a full range of biomes (tropical, temperate, grassland) and of potential enrichment mixes.
But while that would be the "objective" pick I'd advance, a barasingha would be fantastic. In addition to everything @Cynogale bennettii II mentioned, the males also have the cool cervid behavior of decorating their antlers with grass and weeds during rutting. It's got its own conservation story, and the combo of rhino-buffalo-barasingha (as well as elephant and tiger) nicely forms the basis for iconic parks like Kaziranga and Chitwan in India/Nepal terai.
which I feel is the reverse situation of pheasants.Since this thread is deer-specific, I'll stump for the northern muntjac, especially because with limited slots remaining it'll give us a species that works for all three major deer-missing subregions (India/South, China/East, and Southeast) as well as a full range of biomes (tropical, temperate, grassland) and of potential enrichment mixes.
But while that would be the "objective" pick I'd advance, a barasingha would be fantastic. In addition to everything @Cynogale bennettii II mentioned, the males also have the cool cervid behavior of decorating their antlers with grass and weeds during rutting. It's got its own conservation story, and the combo of rhino-buffalo-barasingha (as well as elephant and tiger) nicely forms the basis for iconic parks like Kaziranga and Chitwan in India/Nepal terai.
Another pack. Another chance for a deer 
I hope its going to be Asian and I hope the only buck we can count on is not necessarily the Blackbuck
But for real the question of popularity doesn’t matter anymore because Frontier is no longer following the meta wishlist so religiously. We normally get two popular species and the rest are the random oddballs.
From the Arid pack we keep on receiving obscure and not necessarily popular choices. So my hopes for Père David’s deer are even higher now.
Eurasia was a perfect moment for introducing another deer but it didn’t happen so I hope the 2025 would be finally a year of the first Asian deer species.
I hope its going to be Asian and I hope the only buck we can count on is not necessarily the Blackbuck
But for real the question of popularity doesn’t matter anymore because Frontier is no longer following the meta wishlist so religiously. We normally get two popular species and the rest are the random oddballs.
From the Arid pack we keep on receiving obscure and not necessarily popular choices. So my hopes for Père David’s deer are even higher now.
Eurasia was a perfect moment for introducing another deer but it didn’t happen so I hope the 2025 would be finally a year of the first Asian deer species.
They would be awesome! They have an interesting history. And I think they are really elegant yet unique looking.
Reeve's muntjac I beg you frontiers a smaller deer would be pretty interesting !
2 years ago we’ve received 3 antelopes and no deer
1 year ago we’ve received 3 antelopes and no deer
This year we’ve also received 1 antelope and no deer
It’s just time for another deer in this game!
They should be quite easy to make and many people crave them since their current roster is not that great.
I really hope we’re gonna get one since every pack needs some filler species.
And deer with unique behaviors and amazing conservation story like PDD would be perfect for that.
1 year ago we’ve received 3 antelopes and no deer
This year we’ve also received 1 antelope and no deer
It’s just time for another deer in this game!
They should be quite easy to make and many people crave them since their current roster is not that great.
I really hope we’re gonna get one since every pack needs some filler species.
And deer with unique behaviors and amazing conservation story like PDD would be perfect for that.
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Honestly this does a great job of showing where my ungulate fatigue stems from, it’s not that ungulates are bad animals! They aren’t! They are a super diverse group! It’s just Frontier keeps adding in the “same” animals over and over again!
It’s exhausting! Spread the love out! Like yeah I’m desperate for birds, but if we got 3 cranes or storks every year I would start to get bored too.
My vote is still the Peere David’s deer! Here is a picture I took of there habitat at the Bronx Zoo! I had to crop it, but it’s nice. The deer were even happily wallowing in mud!
Though due to my love of North American wildlife, this habitat from the North Carolina Zoo was what got me into the elk/ wapiti! The American prairie is a really underrated mixed habitat for ungulates, and they were housed with Bison here. This photo is also super cropped, this habitat was absolutely massive!!
Honestly the Deer are one of the most important animals for a Zoo IRL, I mean, I understand why they aren't fan favorite in general, but they are beautiful and adds so much diversity and they aren't well represented in Zoo games.
I love them, and they are present in every zoo worldwide, I won't be mad if we get another Deer because I understand the value and the other players should look beyond.
Pere David's Deer, Sika Deer, Axis Deer and Even Muntjanc are great addition for the Asia Roster.
In therms of NA Deer I need so much the White Tiled Deer, I know that isn't beloved but for me they are important the subespecies in my country are so different than the USA population is different and for me is a tropical deer and not a just Temperate bored Deer, they are tropical animals and it's rage goes into SA even!!!
I love them, and they are present in every zoo worldwide, I won't be mad if we get another Deer because I understand the value and the other players should look beyond.
Pere David's Deer, Sika Deer, Axis Deer and Even Muntjanc are great addition for the Asia Roster.
In therms of NA Deer I need so much the White Tiled Deer, I know that isn't beloved but for me they are important the subespecies in my country are so different than the USA population is different and for me is a tropical deer and not a just Temperate bored Deer, they are tropical animals and it's rage goes into SA even!!!
I'm surprised we didn't get that instead of the dik-dik. It's definitely talked about more.
Bronx zoo has one of the most amazing PDD habitats ever. I love that they have access to the lake and mud. It’s what they love the most
