Can we close the VR sub-forum now?

[Bladesteel]

Making a VR fps is hard, so I can understand how it might not make financial sense. As long as they fix VR in ships/srv it to the state it was in pre odyssey I won't be complaining too hard. Though there are some features that shouldn't require rewriting everything that would make it all a little bit better.

• Allow a setting to "Switch off VR and switch to screen when I go out on foot"
• Same thing, but a mappable key, also available when flying/driving
• Allow us some control over the virtual screen. Size, distance, resolution, curvature.
• Allow us to configure head movement to not move our head relative to the virtual screen, but function as "headlook with a 2d screen" (eq. trackir) does.

 

[Stanis]

Wait this fall. Odyssey is just a DLC after all, an optional feature.

If they destroy the VR implementation of the base game, EDH, with massive fps drop, bug everywhere and bad or even no plan for VR, it will be the right time to close this subforum, indeed. With the tag «betrayal»

 

[Old Duck]

If they destroy the VR implementation of the base game, EDH, with massive fps drop,

Another reason I'm beginning to prefer offline games - you can defer updates, forever if you want. The idea that Frontier can flip a switch and forcibly break a game I paid good money for, that just doesn't sit too well with me.

 

[Stanis]

Another reason I'm beginning to prefer offline games - you can defer updates, forever if you want. The idea that Frontier can flip a switch and forcibly break a game I paid good money for, that just doesn't sit too well with me.

It's true.

Every VR games I'm playing currently, mainly fly simulators, ehance the performances and experience.

Badly downgrade the experience would be the first time I see that in the current video game industry. A true betrayal in fact. It would be a true betrayal.

I keep hope anyway.

 

[Amy Pendergast]

Another reason I'm beginning to prefer offline games - you can defer updates, forever if you want. The idea that Frontier can flip a switch and forcibly break a game I paid good money for, that just doesn't sit too well with me.

That's one of the reasons I try to get games like X4 on GoG - you can archive everything and play whenever in the future you want.

 

[BinakAlgo]

I would like to keep it around as some people don't have and won't have Odyssey and we keep talking about VR and people who still need support.

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

Funny

Another reason I'm beginning to prefer offline games - you can defer updates, forever if you want. The idea that Frontier can flip a switch and forcibly break a game I paid good money for, that just doesn't sit too well with me.

Funny, i had the same discussion with a friend a day or two ago... the good old times, when a software studio had to deliver a flawless product, because updates were not possible back then... A good thing indeed, forcing the studio into delivering a flawless experience.

 

[[VR] CMDR_SpaceGhostC2C]

As VR players the best thing we can do is not play EDO or buy any skins, or paint jobs. Keep making sure we have a voice in these forums, and hopefully they may end up listening to us.

 

[Malvaluna]

Badly downgrade the experience would be the first time I see that in the current video game industry. A true betrayal in fact. It would be a true betrayal.

Unfortunately I know another case: Everspace 2.

On the other hand, there are other surprises as No Man's Sky. After the debacle of its beginnings, devs revived his game and also with full VR (with Tracked Motion Controller).

 

[Stanis]

Unfortunately I know another case: Everspace 2.

On the other hand, there are other surprises as No Man's Sky. After the debacle of its beginnings, devs revived his game and also with full VR (with Tracked Motion Controller).

It's true that NMS is not bad. But not being able to use a hotas in the cockpit is prohibitive for me. Too bad, because the part on foot is excellent. Unfortunately, there is no perfect game...

 

[VR StarLightPL]

Hope is a funny thing, people are still in denial over what was said and still have hope:

We will have to wait and see what exactly they meant by "no future Vr support other than current bug fixes",

While the livestream did sound like that there will be no more VR support whatsoever, we also know that fdev has been intentionally vague and ambivalent in many of their statements and there is a good chance that they will backpedal at some point.

Well, there's no way they could be more clear. And saying never is not something businesses do. Successful ones anyway. But currently, in the period of foreseeable future, there is not one soul working on anything VR related. They might fix some bugs if they get to work on the code part where the VR bug is located while implementing other features.

That's not to say VR will never be on the development roadmap - what they definitely did NOT say on stream was "we're never touching VR again"

Yeah, but it's as accurate as "one day we will get flying cars", which, while not technically false... you get the idea.

What the CM's are saying is that 'no planned development' means that VR is being left behind.

Yeah. And when we get gas giants gameplay (hahahahaha) it will be pancake only. When we get paid-per-ship-interiors-dlc (hahahahaha) it will be pancake only. When we get full atmospheric planets (hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha), it will be pancake only. And each feature which is poorly thought out without VR support introduces technical debt, which is already present in their ages old VR implementation. That's why it's not working well with Pimaxes.

FD are committed to VR for Horizons

And from where you dig that gem? Quote, linky? In my opinion they aren't committed to anything VR, even CBA to fix wrong rendering for each eye in some parts of the game from what I read recently somewhere...

Though there are some features that shouldn't require rewriting everything that would make it all a little bit better.

Yeah but you apparently didn't understand the THC (The Honest Communitymanager) when he was saying "no further VR development in Odyssey". This is feature development. Forget it. It's not going to happen. Even Bob from accounting who secretly wants to be a developer isn't working on it in his spare time. Zero, nada, zilch.

Unfortunately I know another case: Everspace 2.

And X4. With Everspace, I asked the devs about any plans for VR during one of the livestreams, and while they didn't straight rule it out, I remember he gave me a year, 2023 or 2024 at the earliest. A honest answer, which I appreciated. With X4, devs threw a hissy fit because X-Rebirth VR didn't sell well. Geee I wonder why that would be:

X4 is on my no-go list because, you guessed it - VR support or lack thereof, and Egosoft's hissy fit about it, too. I mean, sure, take your most universally hated game, X-Rebirth, release it as a standalone release and full-priced, remove original Rebirth campaign and be angry that people didn't buy your most universally hated game again, that's kinda the same level of silliness as "you will get bored running inside your ship, but not outside your ship" (c)

 

[VR GodrikUnderscore]

Even more ironic with people claiming "oh but we do have full VR support" referring to the first person camera glitch and the motion controller hack.

Folks... while I am genuinely happy that someone found this, stumbling across some parts they had been working on and then abandoning it halfway is not the same as having fully developer backed VR support.