Modes Can we get more players into Open Play?

Can of worms now open.

Open actually has a lot of people on, its just the poor P2P that means you'll likely not see the people who are actually next to you.

That right, can of worms.

That is why I play solo. I cannot handle human interaction of the griefer type. Or even someone finding for himself a reasonable role-played excuse to blow me to bits. I am a miner and it takes effort to full the hold. When I fly back I have no time or fancy to be murdered, costing me an hour work in a game I play 4 times a year for several days.

It is one step forward sometimes, and one step back regardless often enough, being killed by an NPC in a wing of 3 and you can't get away and die in 3 seconds. Very funny. :-(

So no, I have to play solo. Also, I play so little that I cannot get decent fighting skills. And I am not so into the game that I can pick maximized, most efficient, percentage-wise, modules to enhance my chances. Because I play little, I have to re-learn things all the time.

Player groups? I have no concept of what that is like. Small talk in the comms? Meeting someone else in some system, flying close, look my avatar!? No thanks. What is the point? Can players actually help each other? Who would bother come to escort my lode to a station? Am gonna help another? Jump 15 times just to get close? No fun.

I am in STO. Fleets are usually dead silent, no chit chat. I suspect its the same here.
 
To all the people that swear on SOLO, I can definitely recommend playing with other people. It doesn't have to be OPEN. Find a player faction, play in a private group, it certainly adds to the fun. Not to mention that you will learn quite a few things.
 
To all the people that swear on SOLO, I can definitely recommend playing with other people. It doesn't have to be OPEN. Find a player faction, play in a private group, it certainly adds to the fun. Not to mention that you will learn quite a few things.

I do sometimes play in Mobius_PvE. Sometimes it's nice to see other cmdrs, other times they are a distraction. Like when I have to sit outside of an outpost because a player is SO slow getting off the station. Or the few times I tried bounty hunting for a CG, and had to worry about not accidentally bumping into a real CMDR, shooting him (or her) by accident, or 'stealing' their kill. Really ruins the experience for me.

This is my first, and likely last MMO game. No offense to any of the CMDRs here, but it's just not for me. :)
 
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I do sometimes play in Mobius_PvE. Sometimes it's nice to see other cmdrs, other times they are a distraction. Like when I have to sit outside of an outpost because a player is SO slow getting off the station. Or the few times I tried bounty hunting for a CG, and had to worry about not accidentally bumping into a real CMDR, shooting him (or her) by accident, or 'stealing' their kill. Really ruins the experience for me.

This is my first, and likely last MMO game. No offense to any of the CMDRs here, but it's just not for me. :)

Wing play is great for bounty hunting, shared cash for kills and the odd bump is nothing between wing mates :)
 
To all the people that swear on SOLO, I can definitely recommend playing with other people. It doesn't have to be OPEN. Find a player faction, play in a private group, it certainly adds to the fun. Not to mention that you will learn quite a few things.
Actually that's why so many of us choose Solo. So we don't have to have player factions, deal with other players or see anyone else. It's the reason many of us like ED over so many other games out there, we don't have to be subjected to anyone else and can just be by ourselves for once...
 
It's not a "Players should be in open" thread sir. I merely asked which modes people preferred and stated where i play.

Keep that pitchfork in the shed!

Read the thread, with a dollop of deja vu.
This post jumps out. You are either Elite in irony or not as sharp as a pitchfork. Did you not title it "Can we get more players into Open Play?" ?
 
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Many good points, with a bit of thought ED could be more amazing than already is, if I play open I go in a small ship, we need a system to hunt people down, would be good fun in my A rated FDL which I've just built. I'm all for realism; but I think it need to be on both sides, yes you can kill who you like, but also the consequences should come with it. [yesnod]
 
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I see biggest problem in load-outs in pvp and pve. They are too much different, some guns or effects are useless on npcs but very useful vs players. Npcs cheating with unlimited ammo etc. but haven't top engineered ships, on the other hand players with engineered ships with specific load-out are stupidly OP. I play solo/group for now, simple because i unlocking engineers and making good ship. There are many topic about this problematic, i was try make suggestion about how bring more people in open (and many others before me) but i was humiliated by swarm of players "how you date, noob" "pvp was not in kickstarter" etc etc. but best: "i play OPEN but dont need more players in OPEN"
 

verminstar

Banned
To all the people that swear on SOLO, I can definitely recommend playing with other people. It doesn't have to be OPEN. Find a player faction, play in a private group, it certainly adds to the fun. Not to mention that you will learn quite a few things.

Just too many issues with open play...lack of consequences being chief among them and while this may get fixed sometime down the line, its not fixed now so asking fer more open play is naive and premature until those changes have taken effect. I speak from experience...as in I have been ganked a number of times in open so I stopped playing in open altogether and my enjoyment of the game increased significantly because I didnt have to deal with others anymore.

Other advantages of solo play are the ability to ignore engineers without it affecting gameplay...engineers are literally a requirement fer open play whereas they are merely an option in solo. No fighting over landing pads at a CG either and one doesnt lose 4 months worth of scan data to some ten second hero out mining salt.

Anything else is hotel california ^
 
From what Ive seen of my peers, growing out seems to be most pertinent.

Im still slim and Ive still got all my own hair and teeth. Which given the abuse I gave my body in my teens, 20's and 30's, Ok 40s too, is quite something. Not to mention all my 2 wheeled shenanigans which have resulted in a not insignificant broken bone list.

Im 50 and Im too ancient to go open. I cant pvp reliably as both my wrists have been frequently in plaster and on several occasions both at same time. Once 1 week after they both came outta plaster. I cant move my joystick (ooer missus) with quite the same fluidity anymore. I have only 2 functioning fingers on my left hand. The others are pinned. Fortunately the two remaining ones are good enough to illustrate how I feel about certain drivers.

Time too. Time and injury are my obstacles. Oh and I can do without the immaturity of people like me when I was in my 20's.

Everyone has their own reason to play group or solo. Im not avoiding pvp per se. I just would never get anything done and would still be in a sidey in lhs 3447.

I have enough danger in real life, some pretend aggro in open is just an annoyance a man as fantastic as I can do without. Besides the CMDR's in Mobius are a friendly bunch and undemanding.
 
PVP players have been promised 2 things by the game....'rare and meaningful' gameplay.

How much more meaning do they need when their actions have direct outcomes on the number of people that play with them....you play nice with others..and people will play nice with you...behave badly...you play by yourself. No one to hurt but yourselves. No extra money or effort put forth by the devs! Everyone wins.

As far as rare...as prey populations dwindle...and instancing choices become more understood....it becomes harder to play as a PVP player.....right?


Not exactly what people were expecting...but in the most cynical of marketing outlooks...it IS exactly what was promised!
 
Not exactly what people were expecting...but in the most cynical of marketing outlooks...it IS exactly what was promised!

That is exactly what I was expecting :)
I even got a slap on the wrists for taunting someone saying they'd end up alone in Open.
But darn it was so worth it :D
 
The way to get more players into open is to convince PVE players that PVP is fun, not by trying to force PVE players to PVP, playing this game isn't compulsory so if you try and force people to do something in game that they don't want to do then you're not going to succeed, they'll just stop playing.
Pretty sure some of the pvp groups used to/still do this, and fair play to them.

Some of the PVP community though need to take a look at the way they play and realise that they're hurting their own cause.
Notice I said some, not all, but the rest of the PVP community need to think about what they want in game (more people to fight with) and what to do with the people that are stopping them getting that, and also realise that the ones ganking people don't care about other PVPers enjoyment any more than they care about the enjoyment of the people they gank.


Ganking people keeps them out of open, if you don't gank people but want more people in open then maybe you need to police those that do, you'll probably even get to fight with them too, I'd say that's a win win for a PVPer.

I occasionally kill people in game, (and often they kill me, I'm certainly not the king of PVP) but only when a) they present more of a challenge than pulling them out of supercruise and holding my trigger down, and b) when I have a reason to do so, that reason might be something ridiculous like if I don't like their paint job or ship kit, but it's still a reason and as long as I'm not being a d-bag about it then all's fair, if everyone played nice then there would be a lot more people in open.

Cheap nonsense like station ramming and killing noobs is just lame, and really does no one any favours, so anyone that has someone on their friends list or in their player group that does stuff like that really needs to think about whether that's something they want to be associated with, because biowaste like that is one of the reasons some people stay where it can't happen to them, if no one talked to or played with the people that do it then sooner or later most of them would stop.

I'm not really a PVPer or a PVEer, I do whatever takes my fancy at the time and I have no desire to be part of any community, other than just existing in the same game world as others, I have more desire to dip my tackle into a bucket of acid than join a player group, but it would be nice if someone put a lid on those few wallys that are just going out of their way to annoy everyone, that way open will be richer for everyone, player groups and lone wolves alike.
 
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The way to get more players into open is to convince PVE players that PVP is fun, not by trying to force PVE players to PVP, playing this game isn't compulsory so if you try and force people to do something in game that they don't want to do then you're not going to succeed, they'll just stop playing.

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verminstar

Banned
The way to get more players into open is to convince PVE players that PVP is fun, not by trying to force PVE players to PVP, playing this game isn't compulsory so if you try and force people to do something in game that they don't want to do then you're not going to succeed, they'll just stop playing.
Pretty sure some of the pvp groups used to/still do this, and fair play to them.

Some of the PVP community though need to take a look at the way they play and realise that they're hurting their own cause.
Notice I said some, not all, and the rest of the PVP community need to think about what they want in game (more people to fight with) and what to do with the people that are stopping them getting that.

Ganking people keeps them out of open, if you don't gank people but want more people in open then maybe you need to police those that do, you'll probably even get to fight with them too, I'd say that's a win win for a PVPer.

I occasionally kill people in game, (and often they kill me, I'm certainly not the king of PVP) but only when a) they present more of a challenge than pulling them out of supercruise and holding my trigger down, and b) when I have a reason to do so, that reason might be something ridiculous like if I don't like their paint job or ship kit, but it's still a reason and as long as I'm not being a d-bag about it then all's fair, if everyone played nice then there would be a lot more people in open.

Cheap nonsense like station ramming and killing noobs is just lame, and really does no one any favours.

Repped fer hitting half the nail on the head...in my experience, those who ganked me were not in any shape or form 'nice'. The usual mother jokes and insults along with the statement from one guy telling me to git gud or go solo...so I took him at his word and now its an issue because I did what he told me to do.

I dont think these pvp types are all right in the head, they keep changing their minds...one minute they telling us to go solo, the next they calling fer solo to be banned. So why tell us to go somewhere they dont want us in...doesnt make sense does it?

They dont play nice so I stopped caring about what game they wanted to play and decided to play my own...and now its all moan moan moan because they running outta targets to shoot at.

Well boo hoo fer them...damage is done now and its too late...bout two years too late and open players only have themselves to blame fer it ^
 
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