Can we have more info about Fleet Carriers even if they are delayed please?

Masta Squidge

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Ambroza said:
Did you not watch the actual trailer for fleet carriers?
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No. They're just making up their own facts to support their lack of information instead of actually looking up the information on them.


If either had bothered once to look up the details on the things they're talking about they would have known.


Which means they're just using skimmed over third party information to come to a conclusion.
 

tagos

tagos
Masta Squidge said:
No. They're just making up their own facts to support their lack of information instead of actually looking up the information on them.


If either had bothered once to look up the details on the things they're talking about they would have known.


Which means they're just using skimmed over third party information to come to a conclusion.
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The trailers for ED bore no resemblance whatsoever to what was delivered so I don’t believe the content of the carrier ones are any guide whatsoever.
 

VR SenseiMatty

VR SenseiMatty
varonica said:
You really think you are getting a couple of ships to follow you around as support ships? The things is called a Fleet Carrie, not an Armada.
And yes, I can indeed make stuff up and it be just as likely as anything else, but so far we have never seen a picture of these separate "support" ships associated with the FC, and no post by FDEV has stated anything like "your FC and support ships will jump 500ly at a time" it's only ever been "your FC can jump 500ly at a time." So as far as I am concerned my versions is actually more likely than anything else based on the statements by FDEV, not less likely.
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M00ka said:
So where are the images of the support ships? Significantly where they are talking about them but still show a module section of the FC and describe how the module is mission specific.
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And they say I'm not patient.... 😏

Enjoy:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNj97HznUU

So, don't you want to know more? Please read again the OP questions, you will probably have a different understanding about few of them now.
 
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varonica

varonica
Point taken with the videos, they do show separate ships, it's been a long time since I watched it so I guess I am wrong there, I suppose it had to happen some time!

It still brings up the point of single function setups as mentioned earlier. I've been out for 3 or 6 months exploring, I am now heading back to the bubble because whatever, so I want to make a bit of extra money mining, but I only have an explorer support ship, does this mean I am limited to mining by the ships I carry in my FC, so I fill up my mining ship and that's it? I am stuck in my mining ship until I get back to the bubble and turn in my data. (assuming the exploration setup can't do UC of course). Or alternatively if I have been traveling a long way in my mining ship to find pristine rings and get a lot of data also what advantage does the explorer ship give me?

So should I just go exploring with the mining configuration, does that make more sense, and if it does why have an exploration configuration at all?
 

Noobilite

Noobilite
Masta Squidge said:
You can disagree all you want but design requirements can and often do change based on previously unknown technical limitations. Its really easy to assume you can program anything, but sometimes there's limitations inherent within the engine or structure of the software you are working with that prevent all things from being possible without massive rewrite.

I work in manufacturing and I promise you I have driven design changes based on the requirements or limitations of the manufacturing process itself. You can expect an engineer to have an overall view of capabilities and most of the time they work out just fine, but once in a while there's an unknown that doesn't become apparent until you get down to a granular level far removed from the design phase.
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No, there are no unkown limitations. They should and do know the details of their engine.... It's a basic part of programming.

If any rewrite of coding is a problem that tells you the issue. Forethought is the fundamental of all design fields. It's all there is to programming. If they can't do that there is a bigger fundamental problem. They should have people with the ability to do this easily. In fact they should not be hiring anyone who cannot do this. This is something that has changed over the last two decades with programming. And it is a very serious issue. It should never had developed as a problem. Writing and organizing any part of any program should not be difficult period. It's all very simple if you actually know on any level what you are doing. If even a small team cannot rewrite the entire game they are not hiring people with proper educations and we are not educating people like we are supposed to. Those IT degrees and other things legally aren't supposed to exist for this reason. It isn't harmless and it violates what a degree represents. They should nothing more but specializations after generalized education. Not replacements for it. The ability for industries to get colleges to short hand degrees without becoming fully education generalized engineers is literally criminal. Same with science areas today. None of it should exist without a basic engineering degree. And I mean without dumbing down anything either. That is also illegal. I shouldn't have to say why this is important. But sadly we exist in a world where this is not absolutely basic common sense.

Anything outside of this is people blowing smoke up your ass to make excuses and lie to the gullible and ignorant.
 
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Masta Squidge

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Noobilite said:
No, there are no unkown limitations. They should and do know the details of their engine.... It's a basic part of programming.

If any rewrite of coding is a problem that tells you the issue. Forethought is the fundamental of all design fields. It's all there is to programming. If they can't do that there is a bigger fundamental problem. They should have people with the ability to do this easily. In fact they should not be hiring anyone who cannot do this. This is something that has changed over the last two decades with programming. And it is a very serious issue. It should never had developed as a problem. Writing and organizing any part of any program should not be difficult period. It's all very simple if you actually know on any level what you are doing. If even a small team cannot rewrite the entire game they are not hiring people with proper educations and we are not educating people like we are supposed to. Those IT degrees and other things legally aren't supposed to exist for this reason. It isn't harmless and it violates what a degree represents. They should nothing more but specializations after generalized education. Not replacements for it. The ability for industries to get colleges to short hand degrees without becoming fully education generalized engineers is literally criminal. Same with science areas today. None of it should exist without a basic engineering degree. And I mean without dumbing down anything either. That is also illegal. I shouldn't have to say why this is important. But sadly we exist in a world where this is not absolutely basic common sense.

Anything outside of this is people blowing smoke up your to make excuses and lie to the gullible and ignorant.
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Lmao something tells me you don't do this for a living and/or have never written anything more complex than a database front end.


As typical you are one of those folks who thinks simply throwing money at a problem makes it go away.
 

Klarg

Klarg
Noobilite said:
No, there are no unkown limitations. They should and do know the details of their engine.... It's a basic part of programming.

If any rewrite of coding is a problem that tells you the issue. Forethought is the fundamental of all design fields. It's all there is to programming. If they can't do that there is a bigger fundamental problem. They should have people with the ability to do this easily. In fact they should not be hiring anyone who cannot do this. This is something that has changed over the last two decades with programming. And it is a very serious issue. It should never had developed as a problem. Writing and organizing any part of any program should not be difficult period. It's all very simple if you actually know on any level what you are doing. If even a small team cannot rewrite the entire game they are not hiring people with proper educations and we are not educating people like we are supposed to. Those IT degrees and other things legally aren't supposed to exist for this reason. It isn't harmless and it violates what a degree represents. They should nothing more but specializations after generalized education. Not replacements for it. The ability for industries to get colleges to short hand degrees without becoming fully education generalized engineers is literally criminal. Same with science areas today. None of it should exist without a basic engineering degree. And I mean without dumbing down anything either. That is also illegal. I shouldn't have to say why this is important. But sadly we exist in a world where this is not absolutely basic common sense.

Anything outside of this is people blowing smoke up your to make excuses and lie to the gullible and ignorant.
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It's lucky for fdev that such excellent and knowledgeable people such as yourself are interested in the game. Clearly, FD need to get you to Frontier Towers licketysplit to show them where they've been going wrong.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
pnellesen said:
And this would be different from a normal day in the forums how?
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... yes well seen :D

148714
 

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Masta Squidge said:
Fdev: posts video showing different support ships

Elite wiki: posts screenshots with all the other details including support ships

Elite media articles: talk about support ships

You guys:

"Where are these support ship images?"

"Support ships are not a thing"



Lordy
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It doesn't matter what FDcsaus or doesn't say: we'll make stuff up and rage when something else happens.
 
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