Can we maybe not change ARX cosmetics on-the-fly, please?

[Deleted member 110222]

I've heard this will be part of the update introducing the ARX currency system for cosmetics.

I've actually rather enjoyed cosmetics being a part of game-play in the game, needing to go to stations to change them around.

Here are a few key points for me:

Learning to recognize ships on expeditions and the like.​

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Looking forward to coming back from the black to pickup my gold squadron trophy and Distant Worlds 2 decal.​

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And of course the obvious, changing a ship's appearance out in the middle of nowhere, including things like ship kits, doesn't make much sense contextually in the game.​

So, yeah, I'd prefer the application of ship cosmetics remain a compelling part of game-play than something applied frivolously with no game context supporting it.

Thanks.

Read it.

And your reasoning is stupid at best, and at worst just plain selfish.

 

[WR3ND]

The only people who this will affect are those who WANT to change them but cant out on expeditions. Not those out on expeditions who DONT WANT to change them immediately. They can ... wait?

Also see my second post in this thread.

 

[WR3ND]

Read it.

And your reasoning is stupid at best, and at worst just plain selfish.

Thanks for the constructive feedback. It's appreciated by someone, I'm sure.

 

[Far Beyond Driven]

If you have to go to the space garage to change out your modules does it not make sense to have to do your ship customizing there as well though?

I get Wr3nds point. It doesnt really bother me either way but I dont expect to change my paint job in Forza mid race either. Consistency is nice.

 

[Factabulous]

I also leave the guys at least 4 weeks to get the respray done. If you expect it instantly, that's when you get those dodgy lines ....

I ❤ my drippy ship look!

 

[thistle]

Maybe read the OP? Fine if you don't agree with it, but I state the reasons for having my opinion there.

I did.

Learning to recognize ships on expeditions and the like.

So you want OTHERS to be stuck with their paints, for your benefit not theirs.

Looking forward to coming back from the black to pickup my gold squadron trophy and Distant Worlds 2 decal.

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This wouldn't be affected, would it? Just wait.

And of course the obvious, changing a ship's appearance out in the middle of nowhere, including things like ship kits, doesn't make much sense contextually in the game.

Like instant repaint jobs rather than it taking weeks and costing lots of in game credits. If we follow this line, we should be charged more per skin change than for buying the actual design, and then have to put our ship into the shop and out of commission for a long time.

Is that what you wan..... dont answer that.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Yes, but I'd rather enjoy the game for what it is rather than what I have to pretend it to be. Game doesn't make sense or isn't compelling to play? That's alright, just imagine it is.

Read your second post.

It's a game. The whole literal point is to imagine, as it isn't real.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I like pausing mid race to take pictures.

Perhaps I'll suggest on the forza reddit that they allow me to change my paint at the same time.

You... You pause?

Dude that's disgusting. How dare you break the integrity of the game by literally playing god?!

 

[thistle]

I like pausing mid race to take pictures.

You dirty immersion-breaker.

 

[WR3ND]

If you have to go to the space garage to change out your modules does it not make sense to have to do your ship customizing there as well though?

I get Wr3nds point. It doesnt really bother me either way but I dont expect to change my paint job in Forza mid race either. Consistency is nice.

Thanks. And despite the complaints about complaining or whatnot, I think it's a good change overall to allow people to earn cosmetics in the game. I'm only really taking some issue with the change in implementation and contextual game-play consistency.

 

[Old Duck]

Yes, but I'd rather enjoy the game for what it is rather than what I have to pretend it to be. Game doesn't make sense or isn't compelling to play? That's alright, just imagine it is.

Imagination works for me. I bring food, water, and probes (geological survey equipment) with me when I go exploring, and I think this makes the experience more compelling. I also refused to scan prediscovered worlds back when pursuing my Elite in Exploration - no road to riches cheatin! Getting credit for planets already discovered and scanned (some hundreds of times like R2R) seems way more "this doesn't make sense" than imagining my repair limpet (never leave the bubble without one) can also paint my ship the way I want it.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I even pause Elite when I go AFK.

I hope no one is affected when I do.

YOU BROKE THE SACROSANCT GROUND THAT IS ELITE DANGEROUS?!

ARE YOU THAT DISRESPECTFUL SIR?!

My goodness, I think you should be put in the stockade, and endure rotten tomatoes being chucked at you by a group of OAPs!

 

[thistle]

You... You pause?

Dude that's disgusting. How dare you break the integrity of the game by literally playing god?!

I totally read that as "playing golf". I was thinking wow, impressive multitasking!

 

[Vardaugas]

They are cosmetic MTX. They are not supposed to have any gameplay. Applying them anywhere from the main menu is actually an improvement in this regard.

 

[Vasious]

I wonder if the livery button will still be disabled in Outposts without outfitting?
Or will one need to go to the menu to change the livery and decals in that case.

 

[StuartGT]

Choice is a wonderful thing.

Changing livery at any time is perfectly fine by me. If CMDRs don't want to change them at any time, for roleplay/immersion reasons, they can choose not to.

I see no reason why a CMDR couldn't repaint their ship by landing and exiting their ship and painting it themselves, however since Space Legs isn't in-game yet allowing livery changes when simply landed would be sensible.

Using a repaint drone in space would also be fine by me. Perhaps it is reusable and occupies 1-ton of cargo space.

 

[Far Beyond Driven]

Thanks. And despite the complaints about complaining or whatnot, I think it's a good change overall to allow people to earn cosmetics in the game. I'm only really taking some issue with the change in implementation and contextual game-play consistency.

Elites a game that makes you do a ton of little things that add to the immersion and yeah if you go the route of its just a video game it instantly undermines many of elites mechanics. Insta clear bounties, insta teleporting, no more long distance travel. Its just a video game after all...

Elite seemed to put simulator first to make you feel like you were a space pilot in the galaxy with all the good and bad that brings.

Its just peeling back another layer off of the immersion onion however minor. When does it end? There has to be a line in the sand somewhere.

I love skins, I love custimization and I love being able to paint and modify your ship without spending real money. But I love elites sim aspect more than instant gratification arcade mini games and this is a small step in that direction is all and there have been plenty.

Instant gratification if not contained by putting effort in front of every little thing like it used to do, where do we end up after taking steps in the opposite direction eventually, is it going to be a destination you want to be in? If you take away all the annoying pains in the asp will it even feel like Elite after a certain threshold?

Im just rambling but I get it wr3nd. I think people acting like your being ridiculous need to think about what kind of game this will be if you start applying the its just a game make everything convienent aspect to it.

 

[Tikanderoga]

Yes, but I'd rather enjoy the game for what it is rather than what I have to pretend it to be. Game doesn't make sense or isn't compelling to play? That's alright, just imagine it is.

You mean like you pretend to be a trader? or pretend to be a bounty hunter?
The game has so many immersion breaking points, at least this one I can welcome. I like to repaint my ship on the fly. When I go mining, I get a new coat every time I empty my cargo hold. Dock, enter hangar, sell goods, spend 3 minutes picking a new paint job, leave station, return because I forgot limpets. And I wish I would pretend the last part.

Really ? I never knew that.

Yeah, they protrude through shields and you can shoot through them.

 

[Vardaugas]

I wonder if the livery button will still be disabled in Outposts without outfitting?
Or will one need to go to the menu to change the livery and decals in that case.

As the livery will take you to the outfitting compartmentalization, I would say you will have to log off to the main menu at these places. Or maybe they are overhauling that, too, and livery will move you to the special new livery section independent of outfitting.

 

[thistle]

Elites a game that makes you do a ton of little things that add to the immersion and yeah if you go the route of its just a video game it instantly undermines many of elites mechanics. Insta clear bounties, insta teleporting, no more long distance travel. Its just a video game after all...

Elite seemed to put simulator first to make you feel like you were a space pilot in the galaxy with all the good and bad that brings.

Its just peeling back another layer off of the immersion onion however minor. When does it end? There has to be a line in the sand somewhere.

I love skins, I love custimization and I love being able to paint and modify your ship without spending real money. But I love elites sim aspect more than instant gratification arcade mini games and this is a small step in that direction is all and there have been plenty.

Instant gratification if not contained by putting effort in front of every little thing like it used to do, where do we end up after taking steps in the opposite direction eventually, is it going to be a destination you want to be in? If you take away all the annoying pains in the asp will it even feel like Elite after a certain threshold?

Im just rambling but I get it wr3nd. I think people acting like your being ridiculous need to think about what kind of game this will be if you start applying the its just a game make everything convienent aspect to it.

But the point is skins aren't gameplay, they don't affect gameplay, otherwise they wouldn't be for sale. So currently you can buy cosmetics but can't use them potentially for months. For no real reason, it doesn't affect your own game or anybody elses.