Can you live by a No-Kill Code?

Im afraid the "no kill code" would make the game very boring as much of it is oriented around combat. If you see an ally getting killed by enemy ships you will just stand back and watch? Not for me thanks.
 
I'd find it to be incredibly difficult if not impossible. Especially if you're putting NPCs in the mix. I guess you could get by with not killing a CMDR of you stayed in solo the whole time. IMO, that would be the only way of guaranteeing it.

Even if you were a complete pacifist, you might come across that one CMDR who wants to commit suicide with an Eagle or Sidey. You could carry no weps or shields and still wind up with binary on your hands.
 
My name is Zil Zalo. I was born 21 years ago, Chiao Settlement, Ketsegezi System. My parents were just passing through. They were always just passing through. They worked for the infamous Leestian crime lord Tengan Wabe, smuggling – well, whatever they were told to. Under strict orders to never procreate, they hid my existence by hiding me wherever they could. I was always somebody else’s “second cousin”. My name isn’t even my own – it is simply an old Ketsegezi phrase meaning “neither one thing nor another”, or with a slightly-different pronounciation, “nowhere in particular”.


They were killed by pirates in Banda when I was 19 while I was staying with yet another fake family. Having nowhere else to go I approached Tengan Wabe to demand compensation. Finding my bravery amusing and my parents’ subterfuge fascinating, he agreed to pay for two years of pilot school, and when I was finished lent me a battered old Sidewinder and 1000 credits, telling me to pay him back once I’d bought “your first real ship”. I bought myself an Adder within a month.


Having seen the tragedy in people’s lives when their loved ones are taken from them, and experienced it first-hand, I have vowed never to take a life – for any reason. When I run, I’m saving two people.
My question is – is it possible to live yet not kill? Can this code hold all the way to Elite rank for Trader and Explorer - while remaining Harmless in Combat?

Technically you never kill anyone they just eject. well maybe not those slaves in the containers but they were just slaves.
 
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Doable, but that only leaves you with the 3 most dull occupations in ED left to do. Mine, Trade, or Explore. Lol
Still more fun hat Eve Online.



Good luck with it though :D

Mining killed my first three attempts at Eve. Doing combat pve now and scanning/exploration now.

Not going to touch mining in any space game anymore.
 
That's right. The only way to kill someone is to blow them up when they're in the escape pod, which you don't normally see unless you go looking for them. Blowing up ships doesn't kill anyone.
 
i wasn't necessarily talking about other players, more about npc's.

NPCs can be considered as semi-aware "constructs" that arise from the psycho-emotional states of CMDRs on other dimensions...they dont really die they just return to thy CMDRs source code :D----so ive adopted a no live code with them which actually is a return to life operation. ;)
 
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Technically you never kill anyone they just eject. well maybe not those slaves in the containers but they were just slaves.

Even not that. If you expose slave containers to the vacuum and then pick them up again, any station buying them will still pay the full price. These slaves are fully operational and functioning perfectly, HAL 9000 would say.

God mode universe, everyone is invincible. The original Elite was much better, because you had to buy the escape pod and sacrifice a ship slot, or not, your choice.
 
To stay at harmless is almost impossible. When you explore on surfice you find guarding drones. If you shoot them down you get points in your combat ranking. It thakes so little to get by harmless.

I am up in an anaconda now. Living by a do no unessesery harm code. But I up in competent in combat.

As a trader you can get away from a npc pirate by dropping your cargo. Just stand still and eject cargo untill they are pleased. Did some mining. Had a mining mission. Got attacked by four ship, one was an anaconda. They shoot at me but I pressed eject all carco. They stopped shoting at 1% hull and get freindly again. I lost some millions in cargo but did not have to buy a new anaconda, saving me 8 miljons.

Somethinme fighting is not the best options.I try to be peaceful in a dangerous world. That can also be thrilling and a challsnge.

Good luck!
 
It's entirely possible to play the game without deliberately killing anyone - all you need to do is not fit any weapons onto your ship, ever. Many explorers and smugglers play the game this way, at least temporarily while they're exploring/smuggling.

Playing the game without accidentally killing people, though, is much harder. Especially while there still are:
(a) Scan-ramming NPCs who seem to forget where the brakes are while scanning you. If they ram you, then get themselves blown up (either directly by the ramming or by subsequent actions against them), you're still credited with the "kill".
(b) Players in Open who get their LOLs by flying in cheap defenseless ships and ramming other players who are speeding - thereby causing the person they ram to be credited with a "kill" and then fired upon by the nearby station and/or Authority ships.
 
strange, i love all of them. combat was the last thing i got into, and i still prefer mining above combatzones (but i like bhing these days)

Same here. Exploration, Trading, mining is really nice. But I find combat rather tedious and can't bring myself to grind my way to Combat Elite..
And CQC..I always forget that it even exists.
 
To stay at harmless is almost impossible. When you explore on surfice you find guarding drones. If you shoot them down you get points in your combat ranking. It thakes so little to get by harmless.

I am up in an anaconda now. Living by a do no unessesery harm code. But I up in competent in combat.

As a trader you can get away from a npc pirate by dropping your cargo. Just stand still and eject cargo untill they are pleased. Did some mining. Had a mining mission. Got attacked by four ship, one was an anaconda. They shoot at me but I pressed eject all carco. They stopped shoting at 1% hull and get freindly again. I lost some millions in cargo but did not have to buy a new anaconda, saving me 8 miljons.

Somethinme fighting is not the best options.I try to be peaceful in a dangerous world. That can also be thrilling and a challsnge.

Good luck!

oh, didn't thought about skimmers! you are very right.

"That can also be thrilling and a challenge." - i can only back that. most thrilling was bringing medicine through a player blockade, back when the first cerberus plague hit. and, obviously, robigo runs get my heart pumping ones a week.
 
I appreciate the idea of the no-kill code. The one thing that stops it is the difficulty in communication. It's not even that people are unfriendly, it's just that it's damned hard to type when you're flying!

Having voice recognition as an integral part of the game would help a great deal, I think. Voice Attack works for scripts, but being able to either type via dictation or open voice comms via verbal commands would help a lot. That's a long way off though, in all probability.

You can do dictation to to chat and I have it set up by importing this profile into my existing HCS Voice Pack profiles: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=145653

Only problem is that you can't preview the messages and they can come out a bit garbled. It depends on how clear you are with your dictation and how well trained you have the windows speech recognition. I fly in a comfy chair in front of the TV using a Steam Controller and use it when I need quick comms like when being interdicted. If I have more time then I still grab a keyboard and stick it on my lap.

Because the messages can come out mangled and nonsensical I have a standard message set to "Using experimental voice to text communications. Apologies for any mistranslations."

To improve speech recognition start with the Windows speech recognition training - I think it's under accessibility settings. You can improve things further by dictating documents in Wordpad and correcting mistakes. I had real problems with "boost" being interpreted as "paste" until I trained speech recognition a few times by dictating and correcting in Wordpad. Do this with common phrases and troublesome words and it can get surprisingly accurate.

Also make sure your language settings match your accent. I had to set everything up to use UK English rather than US to get good accuracy.
 
Loving the life of a galactic pacifist! Still haven't fired a single shot in the game so far (better than the BBC O.G. that you can do this). Up to a Merchant in trading and Pathfinder in Explorer, a Midshipman with the Feds and pals with numerous minor factions. Trying to get to Elite in trading and exploring without firing a single shot or ever having weapons. :)

My tips for "run away, run away" when you get in interdictions on approaching a station:

1. Throttle down and submit (easier to run and the FSD comes back quicker)
2. Throttle up and boost, boost, boost again (4 pips in Eng for boost replenishment, 2 in sys for shields)
3. FSD as soon as it's online, if they cancel that - boost a couple more times then try - you stay on target if you submit.
4. If they get you again, some are persistent, don't slow down approaching the station - fly by and turn-around (I've bounced one interdictor off a planet like that)
5. If they still interdict, try the mini-game one time - be subtle with the ships movements
6. If that doesn't work - boost a couple of times and hyper-space off to a different system (only have stations and systems selected on the panel)
7. If you just make it to the station, and see fire flashes or get an angry message, don't slow-down until you enter the "no fire zone". Then sit back and watch them on the scanner.

Kit whatever ship out with hull re-enforcement, a hull upgrade (if you can afford it - military).

Throttle up coming out of hyperspace near a star - going away from it stops a lot of grief.

Tips for pacifist ships = Adder, Cobra Mk 3 and Asp Explorer.

Give that 4,000cr to charity at every station that asks! (The Charlie Brooker show "How Video Games Changed the World" has a great interview with Braben about the unintentional 80's zeitgeist of the O.G. game (and a great quote by someone who said it came from the future) - galactic pacifists honour him by not selling slaves or having hardpoints). [big grin]

Any other tips on a conscience clear trading/exploring galactic life very welcome.
 
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Well, I've successfully never killed anyone in all the time I played Elite. Except your parents. I killed them. So sorry, but I got the urge and turned them into SPACE DUST...MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
 
Nobody dies when you blow up a spaceship, everybody's magically teleported to the last station they docked at.

Has never made much sense to me, why do stations say 'Please remember, loitering is a crime, punishable by death' The Bulk of NPC's mention death when they are about to be destroyed - or threaten to kill when they are attacking you.

Even the authority ships say 'see you in hell'..
 
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