Can you tell us if Smear Campaigns are in game yet? Anyone find one with the update?

[Xenoxium]

I agree, the response needs to be more clear. Did you check or did you check check and test it? Seems really odd that nobody has found any. Also if people start getting them after the next patch, that's going to be super suspicious and not a good look at all.

 

[Episparh]

1 SCP for 100MI looks like extremely low drop rate.

 

[Korobi]

I have not been around here long and I want to say that I learned a lot from Hawkes videos the last few months I have been playing. I don’t think he owes any of you who are skeptical of his findings any sort of explanation. If he is posting that he is doing an exhaustive search for these things then why not thank him instead of knocking his efforts? Who cares if he has seen it and didn’t document it? That spurred his whole search in the first place.

 

[Episparh]

@Korobi , no one cares who is who, mate. But doesn't look good if someone just brings only self-promotion to the discussion.

 

[Bigmaec]

@Korobi , no one cares who is who, mate. But doesn't look good if someone just brings only self-promotion to the discussion.

And sock-puppets. Never forget the sock-puppets.

 

[Korobi]

Sorry I missed the Episparh and Bigmaec tutorials. If you have anything to add that has helped the community send me a pm so as not to self promote it here. Thanks.

 

[[VR] Dr Gentech]

Still hasn't been a single confirmed/evidenced report of the engineer being unlocked or a way to get Smear Campaigns? Seems pretty unusual for a couple weeks into the game now.

 

[jacklul]

At this point I think this is how the devs verified this:

/give "Smear Campaign Plans" 5

Yeah, we can confirm they are in the game!

 

[Episparh]

A question regarding the comment of 1 SCP to 100 MI rate during alpha.

Do you guys think that MI drop rate from hab data ports is better now than what it was in alpha?

 

[Factabulous]

A question regarding the comment of 1 SCP to 100 MI rate during alpha.

Do you guys think that MI drop rate from hab data ports is better now than what it was in alpha?

I find more from IND ports - which makes sense (hah!).

 

[Ian Doncaster]

I certainly find MI in data ports (some) more than I did in Alpha (none) but that could just be because I'm visiting a lot more Extraction bases now.

 

[WeComeInPeace]

"Can you tell us if Smear Campaigns are in game yet?"

Can you tell us if effort to damage or call into question someone's reputation, by propounding negative propaganda, is part of the activity that we engage in for amusement or fun?

You humans

 

[Factabulous]

We're doing Smear Campaigns in the forums instead, easier to find

 

[Episparh]

I think there's a potential middle ground here between the current situation and giving too much away. Aside from Opinion Polls and Smear Campaigns, are there other materials players are struggling with?

I find suit schematics somewhat rare and usually the quantity given by mission rewards are low.

 

[Azragon]

I find suit schematics somewhat rare and usually the cuantity given by mission rewards are low.

They are a little rarer than weapon schematics, but this is mainly because you can't relogski them at irregular markers.
So its a matter of finding the right spot to farm them. e.g. if you orbital pirouette military settlements you can gather them pretty effectively (loot, launch, SC, drop SC, come back down, repeat... I know... real engaging gameplay yes?

 

[Ydiss]

They are a little rarer than weapon schematics, but this is mainly because you can't relogski them at irregular markers.
So its a matter of finding the right spot to farm them. e.g. if you orbital pirouette military settlements you can gather them pretty effectively (loot, launch, SC, drop SC, come back down, repeat... I know... real engaging gameplay yes?

The trick is to not just focus on them, like a lot of stuff.

Large high tech bases are a great source for suit schematics but if you ignore the rest of the base you'll just wind up needing to focus on gas and other assets later on (and data, of course, which you can get a fair amount of, dependent on RNG).

I've found I can basically get by with three activities:

1) Do missions for the engineering data (not the unlocks, the data needed for the modules) and loot as I can, where appropriate
2) Run through large extraction and high tech bases, stripping the whole base (and stealing the PR at the end when I need PRs)
3) Do the odd mission to keep MIs topped up (sometimes you see them for 5), and occasionally for gas or PRs

I did do the IM and Impact relogs early on, admittedly. But looking back, I don't think that would have been as necesasry as I initially thought. I've not needed to do that much since. Just one IM focused session for some weapon schematics when I needed them, maybe. Although still, not stricly necessary. The bottleneck was still the gas, after that. So I may have been more efficient focusing on a high tech base instead.

The only consistently disruptive activity for all of this is the high data demands for unlocking. I'm at 26/40 OPs now, so clearly not ahead of the curve on that. And the 15 SDPs would probably still be locked up for me even now, had I not used the IMs for that.

 

[Fishy]

I find suit schematics somewhat rare and usually the cuantity given by mission rewards are low.

Yeah, there's no real obvious stock to pillage, but I find them to regularly drop from power centre lockers, so I make a point of visiting these every time before leaving if I haven't already. Between that and the occasional mission reward, it slowly builds up.

 

[Episparh]

Yeah, there's no real obvious stock to pillage, but I find them to regularly drop from power centre lockers, so I make a point of visiting these every time before leaving if I haven't already. Between that and the occasional mission reward, it slowly builds up.

Yes, this is my observation. I rarely do relogski or even settlement reset (I think I have done this only for Opinion polls) Still, suit schematics is usually the thing I am missing. Never saw mission that gives more than 2 and they are rare mission reward in first place to begin with.

 

[Factabulous]

Yeah, there's no real obvious stock to pillage, but I find them to regularly drop from power centre lockers, so I make a point of visiting these every time before leaving if I haven't already. Between that and the occasional mission reward, it slowly builds up.

There's a big locker in many CMD centres with suit & weapon schematics as well. And the locker in the room upstairs in some PWR centres. Not too bad for schematics.

 

[Factabulous]

2. Some specific surface POIs that spawn only in system with certain condition/state. (This is what I will try to chase tomorrow)

just in case it's of interest - I was looking at some of the surface POI today to see if they had different spawns in different systems.

tl;dr - they don't.

So

• an Irregular Markers/T1 will always drop some of : Patrol Routes / Maintenance Logs / Surveillance Logs / MI / Operational Manual / Blacklist / Ballistics Data / Conflict History / Settlement Defence Plans
• an Impact Site/T2 will always drop from : MI / Operational Manual / Stellar Activity / Topographics / Atmospheric / Radioactivity Data / Stellar Activity Logs / Mineral Survey

I checked across 3 systems with different governments / states / security levels / superpowers. ofc it only takes one find to disprove this Otherwise I don't see them hiding Smear Campaigns this way as it would be super-weird to have the only difference between some set of states be a super-rare drop. But hey - this is fdev

I didn't find any surface POI with data points apart from Irregular Markers / Impact Sites. One interesting case I might have missed is that I found an Impact Site/T3 with the Satellite (the one with solar panels) but the Impact Sites T1 & 2 were all Comms Beacons. So I do wonder if there is a Comms Beacon T3 combo? (Also the Impact Site T3 had different drops to the T1/2 - but I only found 1 example : Surveillance Logs / MI / NOC Data / Operational Manual / Blacklist Data)