Can you tell us if Smear Campaigns are in game yet? Anyone find one with the update?

I don't think Zac lied - I think he told the literal truth. They're in the game, but you won't see them because they messed up the spawn rate.
Yeah, technically they are in the game. But you won't see them because of either insanely low drop rate or broken spawn mechanics. But yes, they are in the game. But you won't find them. But they are in the game, believe us.

It's just ridiculous. I really have some hopes for next dev stream. By now instead of transparency promised to achieve i see ether a "No" to a bunch of mechanics players wanted or things simply disconnected from reality.
 
What a great example of someone who needs to chill out and relax a bit. Imagine if fdev talked to us the way you just talked to them ....
I understand not wanting to pile fdev, and I do think its only fair to defend them when they are unfairly getting hamslammed.

Sure if someone who you owe nothing to talks to you the way some people talk to fdev, sure there may be fisticuffs, however let's just remember its a different thing between a service provider and their customers...It's not like they owe us anything right? We only paid money for a product yes?

In some industries, if a service provider were to do the whole 'talk to us the way we talk to them', the CEO would be on the next presscon offering his head.

But I digress... this is a forum, there are plenty of annoyed and angry customers who will be annoyed and angry, and the least thing that a service provider can do is not reply to their customer's ire by being snarky. That said, I would go so far as to say that they are doing an excellent job (since the last snarky remark) by being completely silent after offering what appears to be 'conflicting' information with what is being experienced by the playerbase. The side-effect to silence is, of course, that people get angrier and angrier the longer you do that... damned if you do, damned if you don't :p

This place is really entertaining, sure helps to break the monotony of 300kLS supercruises out in the black
 
I don't think Zac lied - I think he told the literal truth. They're in the game, but you won't see them because they messed up the spawn rate.

Of course neither of us will ever know as fdev won't talk, so it's hardly worth getting upset about 🤷‍♀️

I guess Zac will add this to his learnings "Don't make a light hearted comment to someone who names themselves after fast food as they might actually be a very serious person who doesn't appreciate jokes" ;)
The difference is one is a customer who named himself after fast food, and the other is an official community manager in a Forum known for it's very very low interaction with it's customers. Snarky remarks and literal truth aren't what I expect here... from a certain point of view...
 
Like honest, factual and straightforward
But FDev promised better communication going forward, a few weeks ago. Oh, wait...

All we got was "No. No. Annnnnnd... No."
Great!

Now, again risking being off-topic... did anyone find a Smear Campaign?
I don't think Zac lied - I think he told the literal truth. They're in the game, but you won't see them because they messed up the spawn rate.
Someone lied. After this much time, someone would have gotten one. Again: "something something infinite monkeys and Shakespeare". The fact that no one got a single one shows that they effed up and they're not spawning at all.
 
I don't think Zac lied - I think he told the literal truth. They're in the game, but you won't see them because they messed up the spawn rate.

By that logic comets have been in the game since launch, they effect ship flight but still don't have graphics even after six years. Explorers simply haven't found any yet because Frontier messed up the "spawn rate". :cautious:
 

Zac Cocken

Junior Product Manager
Frontier
Morning all! To clarify, if they weren't in the game, I would just say they aren't in the game. The problem is the current system behind the drop chance of the smear campaigns is making them practically impossible to actually come across even though they are technically there, as I've said before. This is due to be fixed in Update 5.
 
Morning all! To clarify, if they weren't in the game, I would just say they aren't in the game. The problem is the current system behind the drop chance of the smear campaigns is making them practically impossible to actually come across even though they are technically there, as I've said before. This is due to be fixed in Update 5.
Translates: SCP are in the loot table but the bonked logic make them unobtainable AKA they are in the game but they are not in the game.
 
Morning all! To clarify, if they weren't in the game, I would just say they aren't in the game. The problem is the current system behind the drop chance of the smear campaigns is making them practically impossible to actually come across even though they are technically there, as I've said before. This is due to be fixed in Update 5.
Well then, thank you for the clarification we all needed. I suppose that all the unhappy commentary the past 2 weeks may not have occurred if this had come earlier though, just sayin'.

Nonetheless, better late than never! ;)
 
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It's not the relogging that is the issue, it's more "you have to relog wearing a purple dominator suit and a grey aphelion while the twin solar eclipse under the red atmosphere makes all the guardian monoliths simultaneously light up around the downed skimmer spawned inside the ruins."

Yeah, something like that.

In reality it is probably some very obscure combination of faction states, government, allegiance (one that probably doesn't even make sense) along with a specific type of settlement.

Likely involving one of the super rare states, which probably only happens in system that even more rarely has that type of settlement.
 
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