I prefer it when companies are open about these things. Like, "we banned n amount of accounts this month" or, even better:
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Cheating in Elite Dangerous
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We're not there yet my guess is around page 40
Probably 35 because the media is already talking about it. This gives Frontier responses a 5 pages buff.
OMG I can't believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <more then three means that I'm psychically unstable>
Frontier respond to DavsHope thread but not here
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Game is doomed!
Frontier respond to DavsHope thread but not here
dav's hope gone!
Visited Dav's Hope this morning and gathered resources. Jumped out and visited a station in another local system. Thought I'd revisit just now to see if resources respawned and all planets have disappeared! Hyades Sector DR-V C2-23 is now a planetless binary system. Anyone else experienced this...
Would you be happy when Frontier responded to this thread with: "Please submit a report when you believe other players are cheating."?OMG I can't believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <more then three means that I'm psychically unstable>
Frontier respond to DavsHope thread but not here
Game is doomed!dav's hope gone!
Visited Dav's Hope this morning and gathered resources. Jumped out and visited a station in another local system. Thought I'd revisit just now to see if resources respawned and all planets have disappeared! Hyades Sector DR-V C2-23 is now a planetless binary system. Anyone else experienced this...
If not, it's pretty much irrelevant what or if they post on another thread.
Just out of curiosity, if someone is limited to solo, and cheating, isn't it just on them? When someone mentions BGS, I'm as emotional as new mown grass smells wafting over from 4 doors up.
Maybe I'm unique in this, but, cheating in PvP is one thing, messing about in solo is only affecting the player doing it, and if they want to nut the game experience for themselves, then that's their choice.
Maybe I'm unique in this, but, cheating in PvP is one thing, messing about in solo is only affecting the player doing it, and if they want to nut the game experience for themselves, then that's their choice.
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Rumor is that they can't affect the BGS when being banned.
Here's the problem and why Frontier really needs to pursue actively identifying and punishing cheaters:
As long as these cheats exist then players are going to feel like they are victims to them. Another player beats them at PvP. We're they really that good or did they use a cheat? Those players that made the top 3% on the last community goal ... did they use cheats to get there?
There is no way for the player to know the answers to these questions so unless Frontier actually does something to prevent cheating players are going to do the only sane thing that they can when facing an arms race. They'll start using the same weapons, in this case cheats, they the believe that their peers are using in order to maintain a competitive edge. Then the game loses its integrity. The coveted rank of Elite becomes an epithet meaning "best cheater".
As long as these cheats exist then players are going to feel like they are victims to them. Another player beats them at PvP. We're they really that good or did they use a cheat? Those players that made the top 3% on the last community goal ... did they use cheats to get there?
There is no way for the player to know the answers to these questions so unless Frontier actually does something to prevent cheating players are going to do the only sane thing that they can when facing an arms race. They'll start using the same weapons, in this case cheats, they the believe that their peers are using in order to maintain a competitive edge. Then the game loses its integrity. The coveted rank of Elite becomes an epithet meaning "best cheater".
Cheats in solo (as has been mentioned numerous times) ARE affecting the game for EVERYBODY
PP, BGS, 1st Discoveries (and probably other areas I haven't thought of) are all susceptible to people using these hacks to speed up the process
This is NOT just limited to low skill hackers making their combat ships better than should be possible for salt mining others
Edit: CG's too as you can circumvent SC travel time and FSD cooldowns (more for trade orientated ones)
PP, BGS, 1st Discoveries (and probably other areas I haven't thought of) are all susceptible to people using these hacks to speed up the process
This is NOT just limited to low skill hackers making their combat ships better than should be possible for salt mining others
Edit: CG's too as you can circumvent SC travel time and FSD cooldowns (more for trade orientated ones)
I am typically a competitive gamer, but I ignore that completely in ED. General imbalances, poor mode integration and a lackluster approach to cheating makes competitive anything in ED a joke. I have approximately zero hope even one of these three issues will ever be resolved.
I think you have missed the point entirely, the Solo mode also affects the open/private group economy and political system.. a player could sabotage the open game with cheats in solo mode.
Jesus, that many? Yeah, I'd be paranoid, too I guess. Sounds like an epidemic.
I did watch the video 3of9 put up and it didn't look cheatery to me...but the nature of the hack sounds like it can be pretty subtle, which insidiously undervalues every encounter regardless of legitimacy or lack thereof.
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the community.
I remember me saying "why would anyone tone down cheating to 25% possible" some days ago in the thread with the Mamba and the Krait.
Then I didn't knew that's it's a damn slider option to toggle your damage output or whatever else you want in incremental factions.
I felt slightly embarrassed after reading this thread. As others wrote, how can you know you've lost to a cheater if he uses only a small advantage?
Just enough to be "explained" by legacy modules or good flying?
This whole mess is really really annoying.
Engineer power grinding is just legalised cheating. Why does anybody wonder people try to bypass the roadblock to get access to reasonable level of gameplay they paid money for?
I would say that it's more than annoying, it's an existential crisis for the game. I admire the tenacity of Ryan & Co to push through this type of stuff, but on balance it seems like a perfectly good reason to quit playing the game, change all previous reviews to negative and boycott ED on every social media platform available. Fdev's wimpy, soft bellied approach to cheating has reached critical mass.
how does that make sense?.. its a game mechanic therefore its not cheating in any way at all.
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