That's a...contorted...interpretation of the word entitled.
Cobra Mk IV
- Thread starter domingo
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Can the C4 be engineered to be a better ship?
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you are entitled to your view but i think you are the 1st person i have ever seen defending the modern practices of splitting off completely game content into different versions across different stores to try to force completionists to pay multiple times to get all the content.
I personally miss the days where you paid your money and got a complete game... <shrugs>.
Season passes (or life time pass in EDs case) somewhat mitigated the issue as i could just pay more but know i was getting a full game.... however now companies have gone down the road of releasing content outside of season passes which i think is crappy as well...
yeah. an engineered C IV is a decent small multirole ship (possibly the best small multirole??) - am sure i am missing an obvious other contender!
Thanks for doing the digging. I had seen it before but couldn't find it the other day when discussing the same subject on a different thread.
The line
'...We recommend PS4 users keep an eye on our social media channels for updates regarding the Cobra Mk IV...'
shows that the door isn't completely closed and not completely clear...
I completely agree with you on this one.
I only wish the lifetime pass would become available again, but it's fine. I'm going to buy all future content anyway because I love this game lol
You know, I have a sneaking suspicion that when the 2020 update is offered for preview, they might offer the Cobra Mk IV again as part of the package. But then again, the Cobra Mk IV is very much the 'careful what you wish for' type ship.
Next they'll be asking to the Laykon Type 8.
Next they'll be asking to the Laykon Type 8.
Yeah, true. That is because they never got the chance (unlike pc). I wouldn't be surprised if they throw it in for them if they pre-order 4.0, and that would be fine with me. Retrospectively giving it would not, as people who missed it had no chance of knowing they were missing it.
wouldn't surprise me, and if that type 8 exists in game, completionists will want it. no matter how horrible it is... and this coming from a mild completionist, at least when it comes to collecting ships hahahaYou know, I have a sneaking suspicion that when the 2020 update is offered for preview, they might offer the Cobra Mk IV again as part of the package. But then again, the Cobra Mk IV is very much the 'careful what you wish for' type ship.
Next they'll be asking to the Laykon Type 8.
But there is no way FD could have had 100+ people working on it from 2011 to 2020 (and beyond) without any income. Complete would just mean 'smaller scope'. I much prefer a fun base game with additional development than just a base game with no development.
I was mostly countering Drews response that he was fine with companies doing what ever they wanted with exclusive pre-order content and the spoilt child dig to be honest...... but I am not sure i agree with you about smaller scope anyway. There were plenty of games with massive scope 10 years ago often without masses of DLC, but then like i said, that is where season/lifetime passes come in... Pay more but get all content in the game. (until companies started ignoring the passes and charging for DLC regardless)
I have no proof either way but i personally do not believe FD have had 100 full time people working on ED since KSer anyway...... looking at what was delivered since Horizons launched something does not add up there to me (but i have no proof either way)
At this point i think the old fashioned way of doing it would have been better..... work on a game for 4 years, release it, then work on a sequel and increase the scope of it then, and then launch everyone with a clean slate (like Elite, Elite Frontier and Elite FFE) that way devs can fix loopholes, learn from past mistakes and properly benefit from new code rather than trying to cope with working on 10 year old code and trying to balance new players with players with 10,000 hrs in the game who may have benefitted from massive exploits etc.
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If you don't like the way a conpany does business, vote with your wallet. It's a much better way of changing the way a company operates than (like the person I was responding to) demanding that things be made illegal.
As for 'completionists' - at some point a person has to take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming the big bad gaming companies.
Thing is, there are laws and regulations that protect consumers from similar practices in other industries. Example: if you sell a property you can't lock down the garage and keep a buyer from using it if they didn't purchase the property before a given deadline, or sell a car without a working AC unit unless the buyer pre-ordered said car. These protections, however, do not seem to expand to the games industry where certain gameplay related items can and often are blocked by preorder exclusivity. It's a matter of consumer rights and morality to not lock gameplay items behind exclusivity without giving some method of accessing them at a later date, either through gameplay achievement or additional financial compensation.
I am aware that my above examples are a bit overblown, was simply using them as evidence to prove a point.
ultimately though, this issue is only a minor annoyance and I will continue to support this awesome game, no matter the decision here. I just have strong feelings against practices like this and hope FDev avoids making similar mistakes in the future.
Hey, leave my Type 8 out of this! It is parked near Raxxla. I would go back there and get it if it wasn't for the stupid Men In Black with their neuralyzer made me forget where it was.
I didn't miss out.
But, Frontier have handled the whole matter badly. It's a comms and trust issue.
I didn't miss out.
But, Frontier have handled the whole matter badly. It's a comms and trust issue.
They said it was exclusive and it's still exclusive. I have no trust or comms issues with that.
Guys, Guys, I HAVE the answer we have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We just pull a chieftain move on the Mark 4 Cobra, as in we just copy and paste it and add a spoiler and call it the Cobra MK4.00001 (or the crusader equivalent to the chieftain )
technically not exlusive if it is a 'new' vehicle
'Drops mic and exits stage'
We just pull a chieftain move on the Mark 4 Cobra, as in we just copy and paste it and add a spoiler and call it the Cobra MK4.00001 (or the crusader equivalent to the chieftain
) technically not exlusive if it is a 'new' vehicle
'Drops mic and exits stage'
Oh dear +Gods, no! The travesty of ginormous spoilers on our ships must end, they just look ludicrous.
If the many, many posts on this subject are any indication, you may be unique.
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