CODE blockade and roleplay

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OP it's a reasonable point of view to think that pirate actions might be driving people into solo. But I have to say I think that these people would choose solo in any case mostly because "the fear of a thing is usually worse than the thing".

Many have bragged testified whatever about being in open during the Diso blockade and gotten through without nary a bother maybe that's due to their skill maybe that's due to their instancing who knows. But the one thing that seems to come across from them is that they all thoroughly enjoyed the challenge.

The only reason I went to DIso in a trade ship was because of the high likelihood of other players trying to stop me.
I did the same thing with the deliver slaves CG.
I had no interest in the faction, or the purpose of the CG, to me it was a focus point for where players would be.
Although I got interdicted a few times I made it into the top 40% with about 2200 Tons shipped.

I'm sure I could have made more money delivering progenitor cells and beryllium in a trade route with no other players in open with me, I find that boring.

If you are a trader who wants to maximise your earning per hour the CGs aren't the place to do it.

I'd be interested to hear why players in solo actually join community goals, or maybe why you would keep at the goal after its reached its minimum tier to offer the global reward.
 
The only reason I went to DIso in a trade ship was because of the high likelihood of other players trying to stop me.
I did the same thing with the deliver slaves CG.
I had no interest in the faction, or the purpose of the CG, to me it was a focus point for where players would be.
Although I got interdicted a few times I made it into the top 40% with about 2200 Tons shipped.

I'm sure I could have made more money delivering progenitor cells and beryllium in a trade route with no other players in open with me, I find that boring.

If you are a trader who wants to maximise your earning per hour the CGs aren't the place to do it.

I'd be interested to hear why players in solo actually join community goals, or maybe why you would keep at the goal after its reached its minimum tier to offer the global reward.

In the context of one of them (I can't recall specifically which now) many of the "roleplayers" (it's actually interesting to see players who pick and fight under a faction banner described as roleplayers in ED considering the meaning of that is wildly different in other games) on the Federation side got tired of getting "griefed" in their CG by Imperial pilots opposing the goal and switched to Solo to ensure Federation victory. There was a big thread on Reddit encouraging it IIRC.

In my opinion this is basically exploiting, not to mention meta as hell anyway. It reminds me of when I was little and those punks who never seemed to get shot while we played cowboys & Indians, even though we all agreed I was Clint Eastwood and couldn't miss.
 
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In the context of one of them (I can't recall specifically which now) many of the "roleplayers" (it's actually interesting to see players who pick and fight under a faction banner described as roleplayers in ED considering the meaning of that is wildly different in other games) on the Federation side got tired of getting "griefed" in their CG by Imperial pilots opposing the goal and switched to Solo to ensure Federation victory. There was a big thread on Reddit encouraging it IIRC.

Which just shows why there needs to be unrelated galaxies in different modes.
 
Which just shows why there needs to be unrelated galaxies in different modes.

I can understand the need to have a pseudo-offline mode and it can be convenient to pop in to Solo if you're traveling with your laptop and don't have a great connection, but I would like to see a way to discourage using Solo to completely avoid danger during CGs.
 
I can understand the need to have a pseudo-offline mode and it can be convenient to pop in to Solo if you're traveling with your laptop and don't have a great connection, but I would like to see a way to discourage using Solo to completely avoid danger during CGs.

Nothing wrong with solo, I will play there to maximize my earnings in RES zones mainly but given you can achieve a Community Goal in a non community mode seems absurd. Even private groups shouldn't affect it.

For it to be a community then all participants should have the potential to interact with their follow CMDR's.
 
Nothing wrong with solo, I will play there to maximize my earnings in RES zones mainly but given you can achieve a Community Goal in a non community mode seems absurd. Even private groups shouldn't affect it.

For it to be a community then all participants should have the potential to interact with their follow CMDR's.

I agree solo mode shouldn't affect background sim, or at least not 1:1. Private group I'm a little hesitant to say the same with - I don't want to discount groups like Mobius but I also know that if only Solo was "nerfed" Solo players would just play in private, only by themselves.
 
I agree solo mode shouldn't affect background sim, or at least not 1:1. Private group I'm a little hesitant to say the same with - I don't want to discount groups like Mobius but I also know that if only Solo was "nerfed" Solo players would just play in private, only by themselves.

You could still give Solo and PVE CG's but they do not affect what is happening in Open. It is not fair for those who play in Open to have players in Solo and PVE affecting their game, they choose these modes because the don;t want "us" affecting theirs, you can't have your cake and eat it to..
 
Entitled Perspective

I'll level with you and tell you straight up that when you say "entitled perspective" with no other context it sounds like you're brusquely discounting their perspective as being from a position of entitlement.

Whether that's what you mean or not, you can't just say "wabdooble friggleberger" and expect anyone to know you meant to extend your deepest condolences for the loss of their grandparents.
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
There is a lot of arguing here between and about some individuals that has little to do with OP and this thread. Please bring it back on topic.
 
There is a lot of arguing here between and about some individuals that has little to do with OP and this thread. Please bring it back on topic.

The OP's issue is one very deeply rooted in questions regarding Open/Solo play, so it's kind of hard to fully separate the two, especially when you get to going at it about specific details.
 

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Another solo vs open thread. lol.

Indeed.
But that's a dead sure sign that there are a) significant and b) unsolved issues revolving around these modes - and the specific reasons Players choose them.

Until these long-standing issues are identified (most already are) and fixed (wouldn't bet on that for the time being)... I think it's safe to say that these topics will keep coming up.

(just checked the old Open vs. Solo Thread.... 628 Pages and going. Doesn't get more obvious than that.)
 
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I'll level with you and tell you straight up that when you say "entitled perspective" with no other context it sounds like you're brusquely discounting their perspective as being from a position of entitlement.

Whether that's what you mean or not, you can't just say "wabdooble friggleberger" and expect anyone to know you meant to extend your deepest condolences for the loss of their grandparents.

If you find your augment of my diction to be aberrant, you're simply absconding from what is perhaps anomalous. Contrary to an antediluvian approach to averring what is a blandishment, I merely descry what I explicatively believe to be endemic to my being. I attempt to exculpate what is exorbitant through an innocuous channel. If you find it irascible, fine, that is better than noisome sealing of one's perspective.

Now then, I will "level" with you, as well.

People express themselves differently, there will be inevitable fractures between people and language was meant to speak one's mind. However, through that translation, people make value-assumption and background assumptions all the time. Which is why there needs to be a diverse community to ensure the accuracy of human endeavors that involve linguistics, which is pretty much everything.

I have to right to express myself the way I see reasonable and you do too, which is why you are entitled to post what you did and I still hold respect for you. I get it, human nature is driving you to expel any sort of differences, but overcoming that is precisely what makes people humans.

If one truly had an issue and was concerned about what I mean, I am more than happy to explain it to him/her/it.

So two points here:

1. I think the only people that have a better grasp of English vocab are probably English Master/Doctorate, of course there are exceptions, but I already use vocab sparingly.
2. I take your suggestion into consideration but I feel that the compromise between myself and the person I communicate with is fine as it is. You and I have background assumptions each other and they are forcing an extra subjective mindset on each of us, so I prefer that we try to ameliorate that problem and move on from that point. Language do have general meanings, but as an individual it should be personalized since it is for personal uses. I believe I am conveying what I am attempting to convey, and lapses are inevitable, I will amend them as I get to know my partners of converse later on, since they are diverse like you and I.

But if you want to keep complaining about it, you should, because you are exerting your force upon the people around you as you should according to Nietzsche. I appreciate the comment.

Topic wise:

Yep, definitely turning into an open/solo group discussion. But hey, unless we get people to understand where they are coming from individually and why every post deserves the same respect, accusation or support, as long as there is no profanity/flaming involved. If the simple concept of reconciliation doesn't proliferate, the conflict will be endless.
 
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My 2 cents on the whole open solo saga.
It shouldn't be a case of solo mode is easy mode.
The system should harass you at every turn and the npcs should be godlike if they have elite rank.
Murdering npcs should be just as bad as murdering players - the system should react to you and be the main event.

Player interaction should be for flavour and giggles - it should be no more dangerous - just slightly more surreal and more characterful.

It is achievable; but the cries of 'too many interdictions FD, please remove' and 'it's not fair, an npc just killed me - nerf them!' MUST be ignored!

Take your blockading for instance - where in the rules does it say that npcs can't form blockades?
If every trade CG finds itself subject to wing based player blockades in open then FD just need to program something similar for npcs in solo.

It's not the players that need to man up - it's the game that needs to
 
My 2 cents on the whole open solo saga.
It shouldn't be a case of solo mode is easy mode.
The system should harass you at every turn and the npcs should be godlike if they have elite rank.
Murdering npcs should be just as bad as murdering players - the system should react to you and be the main event.

Player interaction should be for flavour and giggles - it should be no more dangerous - just slightly more surreal and more characterful.

It is achievable; but the cries of 'too many interdictions FD, please remove' and 'it's not fair, an npc just killed me - nerf them!' MUST be ignored!

Take your blockading for instance - where in the rules does it say that npcs can't form blockades?
If every trade CG finds itself subject to wing based player blockades in open then FD just need to program something similar for npcs in solo.

It's not the players that need to man up - it's the game that needs to

It would be interesting to see the game picking up on a higher frequency of interdictions in one area in open play and dynamically increase the amount of interdictions taking place there in solo.

I too feel like NPCs should be more challenging - but the higher ranked ones can already be pretty tough cookies for less skilled players. I'm not sure how much of Elite AI being easy for me to kill is me being a good pilot. The real difficulty with AI is making them believably error-prone. If SJA wanted to she could pull out all the stops and make NPCs literally impossible to defeat without them "cheating" at all, but that'd be no fun either. I'm 100% sure that she has one of the hardest jobs on the dev team.
 
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http://www.thesaurus.com/

You make a lot of very basic grammatical errors in all of your posts for someone who claims to be second only to English master's degree holders.

My apologies, but I believe they were not fatal. I would like to think I am allowed to make mistakes. I am studying for a final and eating, after all, but I believe we should stay on topic if you have nothing to comment about the actual content of my post.

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I would like to point out my statement was about my vocabulary depth. I personally do not believe vocabulary depth is equivalent to grammatical knowledge. Also, English is not my first language, but I try.
 
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My 2 cents on the whole open solo saga.
It shouldn't be a case of solo mode is easy mode.
The system should harass you at every turn and the npcs should be godlike if they have elite rank.
Murdering npcs should be just as bad as murdering players - the system should react to you and be the main event.

Player interaction should be for flavour and giggles - it should be no more dangerous - just slightly more surreal and more characterful.

It is achievable; but the cries of 'too many interdictions FD, please remove' and 'it's not fair, an npc just killed me - nerf them!' MUST be ignored!

Take your blockading for instance - where in the rules does it say that npcs can't form blockades?
If every trade CG finds itself subject to wing based player blockades in open then FD just need to program something similar for npcs in solo.

It's not the players that need to man up - it's the game that needs to

90% of the issue with the game is that NPC are easy mode. It shouldn't be like that I agree 100%

Another problem is that many players just want to go on their boring trading runs and rack up a heap of credits. They get their thrills getting on here bragging about their profitable trade routes and how much cargo their Anna can take while jumping 50 lys at a time..

All these guys need is a nice little safe solo mode to "play the game their way" but it shouldn't affect my game...

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My apologies, but I believe they were not fatal. I would like to think I am allowed to make mistakes. I am studying for a final and eating, after all, but I believe we should stay on topic if you have nothing to comment about the actual content of my post.

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I would like to point out my statement was my vocabulary depth. I personally do not believe vocabulary depth is equivalent to grammatical knowledge.

I would like to comment on your post but I didn't understand it because you used too many big words...
 
My apologies, but I believe they were not fatal. I would like to think I am allowed to make mistakes. I am studying for a final and eating, after all, but I believe we should stay on topic if you have nothing to comment about the actual content of my post.

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I would like to point out my statement was about my vocabulary depth. I personally do not believe vocabulary depth is equivalent to grammatical knowledge. Also, English is not my first language, but I try.

This dude ever shows up in parts of Cali, he'd get rolled up like a joint and smoked. You spend the majority of your posts preaching about English usage. Dude, how starved for attention / superiority are you that the digital realm of Elite Dangerous Forums are where you fuel your need for dong measuring contests?! Haha, and pushing that need online here over the proper use of English?! Yeeesh. Beyond abnoxious when I click on the last page of a thread after I've put the kids to bed and had some wine...was ready to chill and read about the topic only to come to some drawn out n' embarrassing to see chest puffing.

On topic - Those of us who play in open want the player numbers up in open. I'd love to see groups of players come INTO open from solo. Perhaps even organize groups to come get revenge for situations similar to the original posts community goal ganking situation. More people should use the groups forum and create wings (ya know, to take advantage of the while WINGS update and all) to go kick some tail and get revenge or seeking escorts in contested zones.

Love ya all... sans the tool pushing his English power and pumpdom.

See you among the stars fellow travelers.
 
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