Code blockading Sothis

[Robert Maynard]

And for your information, there are many other Cmdr's in Sothis SC and neighbouring systems, not just code, who feel strongly enough about the exploit to make it hunting season on every Asp they see!

So, again, the blockade is for out-of-game reasons?

If this exploit continues, we'll go back to the time of ItchyNipples - mega exploiter and griefer - only this time there will be a hundred IchyNipples... ... and no one has that many nipples! :/

Threatening to grief is an interesting response to a situation where a group of players does not force the developer to change the game to suit them....

 

[myrr mac]

Welp, there goes any pretense of trying to bring something to the game.

I used to think it was a hard life trying to roleplay a pirate in this game, that the odds were against you, and that it was admirable that you tried to be honorable pirates despite all the problems.

That all stopped today when you showed your true colors.

You stopped pretending to be pirates today. Congrats- nobody will ever take you seriously again. Your word is, after all, all you have as a criminal.

This isnt about piracy, its about target-rich-environment, and easy targets.

You lot are a bunch of laughable silly little children.

For any smugglers reading this thread: there are dozens of stations far away from the bubble in many directions. Some are objectively better than sothis, due to for instance faster quest spawn.

 

[Alien]

Well I for one support the Code in saying hi in a popular system, getting some player interaction going and creating some material for me on the forum to liven up what otherwise would have been a mundane Friday morning.

Hope to see you guys on Saturday.

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I agree ... in fact, let's keep giving CODE stations to blockade. This sort of interaction from CODE must be encouraged.

(yes, I am serious.)

 

[xondk]

Wow, finally, one player who is not too greedy and gorging himself with the missions exploit to come and try to sort us out. And for your information, there are many other Cmdr's in Sothis SC and neighbouring systems, not just code, who feel strongly enough about the exploit to make it hunting season on every Asp they see!

Well its a tricky situation really, I absolutely agree the rewards are insane, but it is a similar situation to seeking luxuries, it lasted for a bit then it was redressed, but was not considered an exploit regardless of how much people could make and how easy it was "system that sells luxuries having seeking luxuries almost right nearby the stations."
And I wouldn't for one bit be surprised if one of the reasons code is seeming bored is that they have a ton of money and don't know what to do now. Maybe from seeking luxuries times? who knows.
With patch coming next week it will likely be fixed. And honestly the thing they need to fix isn't really the mission reward, but the mission spawning, if missions didn't reseed upon relog and such, it wouldn't be much of an issue, if people would need to wait for missions to update according to when server says an update would be, then these kinds of missions would be very very rare. Which would be ok in my book?

 

[newman1702]

Congrats- nobody will ever take you seriously again.

Don't worry, nobody did before this anyway, apart from CODE themselves. They're think they're all very srsbsns chaps, it's hilarious This isn't exactly hurting their rep, they're well known muppets anyway.

 

[LeetNoob]

Ah....these clowns again...So what's the reason for the blockade this time?

Doing stuff for absolutely no financial gain, a true pirate's calling card...........oh wait.....

Not enough hugs from mommy is my guess. CODE aren't even real pirates, they're gankers with a terrible PR person that seems to just make it worse.

 

[CMDR Derrida]

I keep hearing about this exploit but I went there the other night - picked up three missions worth about 8 or 9 mill - took me at least half an hour or more to get there and more to get to the three destinations.

I'd have made more with standard trading.

Look, this is the figure from yesterday for ships going to Sothis. It's a massive exploit (you have to switch constantly between the game modes, open/solo/private, to refresh the mission list quickly btw) that will kill the in-game economy. You can't just jump from 3-8 million per hour (the old average for trading/merit grinding/Res bounty hunting pre-1.3) to 30 million an hour for smuggling (through refreshing a mission list by re-entering a game). It doesn't help new players, it just turns the richest, most experienced players into GOD MODE players. Ok, a newish player might earn her/himself enough for a python very quickly, but the guys at the top are already becoming so rich that they will never have to worry about dying in their Super-gold-plated Anacondas!
We know we can't do anything to stop this exploit and yesterday there were, what, four new CG's with next to no traffic passing through.
So yes, if you care about the open universe, travel there in your big combat ships and prove it!

 

[xondk]

I don't see what the exploit has to do with this.. I'm definitely not using the exploit, but those that are swapping between open and solo, I can guarantee they will be the kind to do the flights in and out of Sothis in solo mode, or combat log at the first sign of trouble.

That is the actual exploit in my book, not so much that you can get high paying missions, but the fact that you can provoke mission refresh with logging, this is what needs to be fixed, missions only update when server says so. And I mean they've proven that they can update missions on the fly without needing patching or anything so if it was the missions themselves that was the problem, you'd think it'd be fixed already.

 

[mugendo]

After the constant 1.4 moaning about interdiction now to hard, I lost my clipper because insurance won't cover me for free, elite dangerous is empty space.........
I like to read the op announcing they want to interact with others in the game.
And elite dangerous has a lot of empty systems for those who don't like to fly with insurance.

 

[ianw]

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Look, this is the figure from yesterday for ships going to Sothis. It's a massive exploit (you have to switch constantly between the game modes, open/solo/private, to refresh the mission list quickly btw) that will kill the in-game economy. You can't just jump from 3-8 million per hour (the old average for trading/merit grinding/Res bounty hunting pre-1.3) to 30 million an hour for smuggling (through refreshing a mission list by re-entering a game). It doesn't help new players, it just turns the richest, most experienced players into GOD MODE players. Ok, a newish player might earn her/himself enough for a python very quickly, but the guys at the top are already becoming so rich that they will never have to worry about dying in their Super-gold-plated Anacondas!
We know we can't do anything to stop this exploit and yesterday there were, what, four new CG's with next to no traffic passing through.
So yes, if you care about the open universe, travel there in your big combat ships and prove it!

Oh I'll pop over later tonight and see if I can get through..

 

[GaryII]

And for your information, there are many other Cmdr's in Sothis SC and neighbouring systems, not just code, who feel strongly enough about the exploit to make it hunting season on every Asp they see!

Totally agree with them if I was pvp pirate I would do the same..
But its a lost battle since they will log to Private/Solo..

 

[lovely lovely]

Not enough hugs from mommy is my guess. CODE aren't even real pirates, they're gankers with a terrible PR person that seems to just make it worse.

or too many hugs from 'uncle'

 

[Excalibrates]

Well seeing as we are going to be there producing "Emergent Game play and storyline"

How about you guys decide how we interact with you? Seems only fair doesn't it.

You have two choices, Only Two.

1) We fly in as we are in underspec'd ships, have fun and throw a little role play around how the influx of smuggling to Sothis has reduced the normal trade routes and caused a down turn in viable pirating targets in our home systems.

2) We fly around in our normal ships, do the same and greatly reduce the chance of Elite players in their A Rated Uberships from just crawling back into SC and into port.

Majinvash
The Voice of Lame Gankers

You guys are funny. Remind us again what your "normal trade routes" and "home systems" are? Because I spent about 2 months making Elite trader in Open in an unshielded Anaconda doing all the sorts of things you tell everyone not to do e.g. "smuggle YOUR slaves in Archon territory". How many of you guys did I see? Zero. How many other "viable pirating targets" did I see while doing this...usually about 5-8 at any one time plying the same route I was. It isn't secret. It is highly profitable. And you guys were absolutely nowhere.

All you seem to do is go from CG to CG looking for excuses to gank unarmed ships, and then you try to pass this off as "piracy" and "emergent gameplay". It's pretty amusing, but I'm not sure if you realise quite how much people are laughing at you.

 

[Cyda]

For any smugglers reading this thread: there are dozens of stations far away from the bubble in many directions. Some are objectively better than sothis, due to for instance faster quest spawn.

Any system names? I know HIP 74290 - Pratchett's Disc has them but I've not found others yet, I've seen a few mention there are other stations with these missions but no specific names.

 

[Teldja]

I agree ... in fact, let's keep giving CODE stations to blockade. This sort of interaction from CODE must be encouraged.

(yes, I am serious.)

Would be nice to have more others player group with strong, consistent RP and good story tellers too.
Could have much more opportunities to create this kind of interactions consistent with the Elite lore.

 

[CMDR Brock Samson]

I'm gonna make another 100 mil today at Sothis.You guys jelly?

 

[LeetNoob]

Well seeing as we are going to be there producing "Emergent Game play and storyline"

How about you guys decide how we interact with you? Seems only fair doesn't it.

You have two choices, Only Two.

1) We fly in as we are in underspec'd ships, have fun and throw a little role play around how the influx of smuggling to Sothis has reduced the normal trade routes and caused a down turn in viable pirating targets in our home systems.

2) We fly around in our normal ships, do the same and greatly reduce the chance of Elite players in their A Rated Uberships from just crawling back into SC and into port.

Will the blockade work and stop all Smuggling, absolutely not. Do we have any illusion that it will.. No.

Is it something we want to do because its a damn sight more interesting than ANYTHING else 1.4 gave us. ( Including CQC which is so easy it because boring VERY quickly ) YES, Yes it is!

You are welcome.

Majinvash
The Voice of Open

We have two choices? I don't care what you do.

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I'm gonna make another 100 mil today at Sothis.You guys jelly?

I don't think they're ready for that jelly.

 

[myrr mac]

Any system names? I know HIP 74290 - Pratchett's Disc has them but I've not found others yet, I've seen a few mention there are other stations with these missions but no specific names.

fehu is very good.

actually folks, lets start posting the good alternatives in this thread. Get people to spread out, and ruin CODE's "fun".

 

[Theodrid]

How can there only be 2 choices when there are 3 modes?

 

[Majinvash]

So, again, the blockade is for out-of-game reasons?



Threatening to grief is an interesting response to a situation where a group of players does not force the developer to change the game to suit them....

Should it matter his reason? Remember Brabens vision!

Blaze his own trail and all.

I guess everyone should just swap modes or play in Mobius to avoid him, sounds like a total griefer to me.

Majinvash
The Voice of Open