It interferes. End of line. Whether you think it should be expected is beside the point.
The same way that I would guess 90% of "combat logging" is caused by Windows being crap, and therefore to be expected.
Combat Loggers... how many are there!!!! What kind of punishment do they receive and when?
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It interferes. End of line. Whether you think it should be expected is beside the point.
The same way that I would guess 90% of "combat logging" is caused by Windows being crap, and therefore to be expected.
And how many of these games punished you for the fact the enemy team left?
If a wanted target combat logs on you, you've lost time, hull integrity, ammo and the potential bounty.
When a prey escape a pirate, the pirate has lost time, hull integrity, ammo and the potential booty.
How would you feel if NPCs started combat logging? How would you feel if the goods in your cargo racks randomly dissapeared as you were about to sell them?
Seen both of these things.
I see, so you're the person who refuses to stop on other player's properties in Monopoly. Why do you play multiplayer games again?
Good luck with that particular interpretation of the EULA, to me personally I feel it is referring to the use of LagSwitches or DDOS attacks on the P2P architecture but hey if you think it is to do with combat logging we are all entitled to our opinon
For me leaving an unwanted situation you yourself (the player) was subjected to by the interdicting CMDR(s) - it is their own gameplay style i.e PVP, that interferes with my game.
Quid pro quo as others have already said the actual use of a Frameshift drive interdictor on a fellow commander should result in a ban as it is specifically designed to "interfere with the experience of other users of the Game"
Correct?
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In Monopoly, rules are decided upon by ... and this is the thing... ALL Parties... before the game begins.
In ED, I expect other pilots to behave like civilised human beings. If they decide not to, it interferes with my game, that I paid for. I mean sure, you're more than welcome to spoil my game for me, IF and ONLY IF you're willing to reimburse me for the time I've spent on the game, plus any monies I've spent on it, including but not limited to graphics cards, HOTAS setups, the game + DLCs and the alcohol I've needed in order to put up with the nonsensical tripe that people post on the forums.
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Doubble facepalm.....This thread should be closed !
Once upon a time in a beta long forgotten there was a mechanism in place against interdiction of "unwanted" targets. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=110170
I guess it's long gone because... well. Dunno?
I guess it's long gone because... well. Dunno?
More importantly, how do I get punished in real life if I choose to stay in game instead of leaving?
My lunch gets cold, the dog craps on the carpet, my wife leaves me and I lose my job
I understand your point though, however it's very difficult to adress the problem. Frontier cannot ban people for a bad internet connection or computer crash. You cannot get the bounty if someone leaves the game because it would be exploitable (just call a friend, get a bounty, attack him and he leaves the game = free credits). The best solution is (as I pointed out several times in this thread) a private group where you kick everyone who doesn't play by your rules.
According to David Braben Elite Dangerous is not about PvP.
Presumably the Ganker Lobby persuaded FD to change it, as they do with everything else.
And now there is an ED Affiliate and well known streamer clearly Combat Logging during a livestream because he didnt understand the mechanics of silent running
I wonder if they will decide to act punitively against this particular "high profile" CMDR
Just google reddit and elite dangerous and have a watch!
Be interesting to see how they handle this with one of their own!!
I wonder if they will decide to act punitively against this particular "high profile" CMDR
Just google reddit and elite dangerous and have a watch!
Be interesting to see how they handle this with one of their own!!
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Privately - as with every case.
Please. No more posts about this incident. They will be treated as witch-hunting.
No worries
Would it be treated as witch-hunting when I defend his action? For example by stating that he was in his own private group where we are allowed to make our own rules...?
The combat logging will stay so long as long griefers can engage without consequences pretty much in every supposed to be save space.....
You want to say more?
Go cry first to FD why your pvp actions not get punished by engaging commanders in high security space..... After this change come back and we will share your thoughts .
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there is discussion about making human interaction more punishing for the attacker vs weaker opponents.
But it wont stop the cheaters cheating. (combat loggers)
Not sure why combat loggers even bother playing to be honest. they obviously dont like the game. quite a few combat log to npc's so probably should go play the sims, but i bet they have cheats for that too.
But it wont stop the cheaters cheating. (combat loggers)
Not sure why combat loggers even bother playing to be honest. they obviously dont like the game. quite a few combat log to npc's so probably should go play the sims, but i bet they have cheats for that too.
If anybody disconnects during a legit match up then it's unacceptable. If somebody disconnects because some trouble maker takes them to within a few seconds of losing 20+million in insurance then I don't blame them. I have have an Anaconda and recently got faced up against a wing of 3 verbally tough players. I think the main guy didn't want the fight because I'd have melted his small wingmen within seconds (hopefully).
Had they attacked and cost me insurance, I'd have paid for it, but I don't blame people who do disconnect the second these people interdict them. I don't doubt had I not had the Anaconda and was flying in something smaller that I'd have been attacked.
Combat logging is wrong, but it shouldn't be punishable unless it's clear abuse.
Can I also add that with this game throwing some unfair moments at us too, such as with the constant NPC ships ramming us when coming to scan (which has killed me a couple of times), coupled with some serious glitches sometimes, like the auto docking crashing your ship, I don't think it's fair to outright call some people cheaters unless it's clear they're disconnecting constantly in OPEN during a legit match up.
Otherwise some people who might not have the time to accumulate the sufficient surplus insurance funds would rather not lose the chunk of cash they're limited window for gaming time allows. Some people probably want to enjoy elite and not treat it as a diehard simulation when they cannot invest the time.
This is just my guess and my sympathy with regards to how some people might play and I stress again that punishment should only be for those who continually disconnect during a fair and legit match up in OPEN Play.
Had they attacked and cost me insurance, I'd have paid for it, but I don't blame people who do disconnect the second these people interdict them. I don't doubt had I not had the Anaconda and was flying in something smaller that I'd have been attacked.
Combat logging is wrong, but it shouldn't be punishable unless it's clear abuse.
Can I also add that with this game throwing some unfair moments at us too, such as with the constant NPC ships ramming us when coming to scan (which has killed me a couple of times), coupled with some serious glitches sometimes, like the auto docking crashing your ship, I don't think it's fair to outright call some people cheaters unless it's clear they're disconnecting constantly in OPEN during a legit match up.
Otherwise some people who might not have the time to accumulate the sufficient surplus insurance funds would rather not lose the chunk of cash they're limited window for gaming time allows. Some people probably want to enjoy elite and not treat it as a diehard simulation when they cannot invest the time.
This is just my guess and my sympathy with regards to how some people might play and I stress again that punishment should only be for those who continually disconnect during a fair and legit match up in OPEN Play.
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Still going on about it? Obviously they don't want to play with the likes of you. Why don't you leave them be and move on?
A rather negligible loss. Compare that to the time lost, the in-game money lost, mission progress lost of a guy who gets attacked involuntarily. Is that time spent worth less? Are those credits worth less?
I say no.
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