Actually, that's exactly what you said. I'm sure you'll learn English by the time you leave school.
Combat Loggers... how many are there!!!! What kind of punishment do they receive and when?
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Actually, that's exactly what you said. I'm sure you'll learn English by the time you leave school.
You're doing a fine job of misrepresenting other people's posts all by yourself. You don't need any help from us.
right im out again.
there can never be a serious discussion about this issue, because some people dont see it as a serious issue.
Fortunatly the devs do. so Hopefully they will do something about it during season 2
I dont think il buy season 3 if they havent implemented something meaningful by then.
there can never be a serious discussion about this issue, because some people dont see it as a serious issue.
Fortunatly the devs do. so Hopefully they will do something about it during season 2
I dont think il buy season 3 if they havent implemented something meaningful by then.
Not sure the other 1.5 miliion players will loose an awful amount of sleep about you not buying season 3
Most people are anti-cheating.
Most people here are anti-exploit too
Most people here think Combat Logging is wrong.
I'm one of them.
I also think there are exceptions since you NEVER know what's going on behind your victim's screen.
I also think that it is the LEAST of exploits in this game and considerably less important than the issue of ganking.
I'll tell you a funny story about a CL incident that happened to me... last night in fact.
I was in a RES, bounty hunting in my Vulture.
I was fighting an Anaconda and had it down to about 2% hull (not really important but...) and was only lightly damaged myself.
It was an NPC only, but I was looking at a nice juicy bounty claim.
And then
I was staring at my desktop and unable to log back in.
In your eyes, I just combat logged.
In mine, I just lost a nice juicy bounty claim.
I think, before this turns into a galaxy wide witch-hunt, FD need to fix their net-code, which is not as simple as many would like to believe...
They also need to fix Windows, and enforce a guaranteed never-crash uptime on ALL ISPs and router manufacturers, which is somewhat more difficult.
Once you can prove that there was no CTD or unintended disconnection, then you can start accusing.
Innocent until proven guilty, remember? Here it seems the other way around.
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not sure il lose much sleep when they all slowly leave because they are sick of playing with cheaters and the game dies like every other game that was complaisant about online cheaters
That's because in this thread
- anti-cheating correlates to being a PVP'er, which correlates to being a griefer.
- pro-cheating correlates to being a PVE'er in Open, which correlates to "I didn't consent to PVP, so I'll CL. Nyah nyah nyah"
Basically it's the pot calling the kettle black.
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pro-cheating also correlates to be a pve player in any mode. combat log to a human and you will combat log to an npc.
once you avoided destruction by cheating then why would you ever die again..
But it isn't Frontier can be quoted as saying combat logging is an exploit while they have never said or endorsed pvp or piracy as griefing. You have no legs to stand on.
You consent to pvp when you click open play, how? Because that's the inherent design behind having an open pvp environment and in the year ED has been out there's been no move from Frontier to correct that design, which implies the intent.
Apart from on this very forum - where is it actually confirmed?
Is it in the instruction booklet when you load up the game?
Maybe it is highlighted in the tutorial missions?
Or perhaps an onscreen warning when playing the game?
Nope nope nope - so not really a "Confirmed Exploit" is it!
Anywhere apart from here that is
Well yeah. But if I was the attacker, having my target combat logging would simply mean a victory for me.
Then go to the report screen to log the CL.
Where did I say we should let people cheat?
I quoted a poster who said that they never combat log themselves, but they don't get wound up over other people who do, which is exactly my position on the subject.
Would it be more acceptable if I foamed at the mouth about it a bit more?
Dev and mod post, check it and do some research next time.
Edit: Sorry, the mobile interface is really terrible.
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I know exactly what the mods and devs and pro-pvps have to say on this issue
How that is relayed into the game and its instructions/rules is a whole other ballgame
I misread the post you quoted my apologies. For some reason I thought he said he let people combat log, so yeah my mistake. I didn't mean to misrepresent your post(despite doing so).
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My how those goal posts sprinted.
I feel the exact same way. It is kind of a surreal experience. It has a very twilight zone mirror universe feel to it.
It's up to Frontier to enforce the rules as they see fit. It's not a problem that's going to be fixed by you typing your outrage into this forum. But since all the people here writing justifications for their supposed logging are upset about "griefers" attacking them without any interest in either bounty or cargo, the 'victims' of combat logging aren't losing anything other than satifaction. So it's really not worth getting so upset about.
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