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Yeah, frankly FD feel free to probe a sunless expanse with your betas - maybe you see that as compensation for your failure, but I've got no use for them.
As a nudist I'd fly naked. Its role-play after all. I'd even buy arx to make it happen
No of course not, and I never said that. I merely implied you treat em like mushrooms, feed them poo and keep em in the dark.
I'm glad you're taking steps to fix bugs BEFORE the updates get released. If the September update was bad, I'd hate to see how buggy fleet carriers would be without this.
It's pretty much a choice between bug fixes or content, and if content=bugs, then delays must happen.
Aside from my disdain of FDev crumbling to an 'open letter' from folk who claimed to be 'the community', but appeared to only invest 'community' to represent their own narrow views...
It is odd that the release of FC's should have been a mere 6 weeks or so away, logically the code would have been finished, all of the art & soundscapes created and final testing before release going on - now it is Q2 2020 - 5 to 8 months away, am I being too cynical to surmise the delay would have happened anyway?
It is odd that the release of FC's should have been a mere 6 weeks or so away, logically the code would have been finished, all of the art & soundscapes created and final testing before release going on - now it is Q2 2020 - 5 to 8 months away, am I being too cynical to surmise the delay would have happened anyway?
Just want to be sure I have this correct. First a relatively functional game is monkey wrenched by a relatively minor new cosmetic currency app, and now Frontier needs an extra 6 months to fix what they broke?
Did I miss something? And does this mean the big 2020 update is being pushed back as well? Just want to make sure my expectations are being set appropriately.
Did I miss something? And does this mean the big 2020 update is being pushed back as well? Just want to make sure my expectations are being set appropriately.
OP literally says new era is on time. But we will see
Yeah I want to believe it. But idk.
Not yet but it will be. It would seem that they are limited on not just their testing resources but their dev resources and do not have a bug team to go with a content team. We get one or the other with no testing support. I hope "New Era" is correctly staffed.
The part of me that’s worn out on giving Frontier the benefit of the doubt is telling me that they weren’t going to have fleet carriers ready in time anyway, and they’re leveraging the conversation about bug fixes as a palliative. Question is: are they going to do what they say they’re going to do or is this just one more vaguepost non-announcement which will vanish into the ether as soon as real work and accountability come into play ala the Focused Feedback Forums? I’ll say this: I’m skeptical as all heck, but if it’s for real, and they follow through, I’ll be applauding.
No, you are correct. And it's not the first time it happens. This is FD's equivalent of me calling my boss to say I won't show up for work this week because I will dedicate the time to put on my pants. Sure, great, by all means. But I am still supposed to, you know, work.
No, I very much doubt it. Frontier would be shooting themselves in the ... bottom.
I think someone asked the question "When we release Fleet Carriers are we going to have this much mess again?"
And nobody could say "No."
They can't afford the next release to be a repeat of the September fiasco. They need to prove that they can make a clean release, both of a bug-fix and real content. That's what the next three updates will be: proof that they can clean house and learn from their mistakes.
There will be two bug-fix releases. One in January that gets all the easy bugs (up to two months work) and one three to four months after that that fixes the more involved bugs. As soon as that is out of the door, the Fleet Carriers will be two months out -- the same as they were yesterday. As of today, development on Fleet Carriers pauses for six months.
But by then they will have had practice at testing and releasing bug-free code and they will be building on a more stable platform.
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Well well....
If all you have [for a prolonged time due to internal reasons] is a Carrot and a Stick - the one single thing you do not do approaching "Carrot Day" is.... drop the stick and run off.
You don't. Ever. There's obvious reasons you shouldn't do that. Unless maybe you're a month short of filing bankruptcy or something similarly severe.
So instead of saving and minimizing resources to such a bizarre point where the whole product, its quality and the whole deal starts hurting and things appear to visibly fall apart (see Sep Update as one of many examples), here's what you should do instead :
- take additional and exclusive Resources into your hands and construct that Carrot. Do it.
Invest and don't be shy. If you're "behind power curve" - the absolutely last thing you do is : cut power.
You do the opposite. Move Throttles beyond the detent and light Afterburners. You're behind power curve, that means you need additional power. It'll cost but you need it. It's worth it.
If you guys don't get that - you have deep structural problems that reach much further than some single Development Milestone your Resource Management is signaling you'll miss.
The way I see it, you've opted to "Jettison External Stores" instead to reduce gross weight. Quicker. Easier. Tempting.
It'll give you some short-lived relief - but it structurally won't solve anything. You'll get behind power curve. Again. And it's only a matter of time.
PS.
Again, there's Management behind the scenes who must have seen this coming a mile away already. It's not the first time after all.
And the exact same Management is still trusted and paid for to do "what we believe is best for ELITE and our Customers"?
Haha, you guys can't be serious.
PPS.
Did I ever tell you.... the definition of... Insanity?
Insanity... is... doing the exact same mistakes... over and over and over again... expecting things to change.
That... is... crazy.
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And to round things up, going through all the usual FDev cycle of "Soon(tm)" through Teasers all the way to "Delay, Delay Cancel" , I can't help but think of that weird motivational Video
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
If all you have [for a prolonged time due to internal reasons] is a Carrot and a Stick - the one single thing you do not do approaching "Carrot Day" is.... drop the stick and run off.
You don't. Ever. There's obvious reasons you shouldn't do that. Unless maybe you're a month short of filing bankruptcy or something similarly severe.
So instead of saving and minimizing resources to such a bizarre point where the whole product, its quality and the whole deal starts hurting and things appear to visibly fall apart (see Sep Update as one of many examples), here's what you should do instead :
- take additional and exclusive Resources into your hands and construct that Carrot. Do it.
Invest and don't be shy. If you're "behind power curve" - the absolutely last thing you do is : cut power.
You do the opposite. Move Throttles beyond the detent and light Afterburners. You're behind power curve, that means you need additional power. It'll cost but you need it. It's worth it.
If you guys don't get that - you have deep structural problems that reach much further than some single Development Milestone your Resource Management is signaling you'll miss.
The way I see it, you've opted to "Jettison External Stores" instead to reduce gross weight. Quicker. Easier. Tempting.
It'll give you some short-lived relief - but it structurally won't solve anything. You'll get behind power curve. Again. And it's only a matter of time.
PS.
Again, there's Management behind the scenes who must have seen this coming a mile away already. It's not the first time after all.
And the exact same Management is still trusted and paid for to do "what we believe is best for ELITE and our Customers"?
Haha, you guys can't be serious.
PPS.
Did I ever tell you.... the definition of... Insanity?
Insanity... is... doing the exact same mistakes... over and over and over again... expecting things to change.
That... is... crazy.
-----------------
And to round things up, going through all the usual FDev cycle of "Soon(tm)" through Teasers all the way to "Delay, Delay Cancel" , I can't help but think of that weird motivational Video
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Ooof, remind me never to get into business with you..
This whole thing just smacks of serious leadership problems within FD. How can they be so dysfunctional that they need to delay projects that have already been delayed for a year. All so they can do what they should’ve been doing this whole year....
Their saving grace is a lack of competition, but that won’t last forever. I seriously would be fired if I pulled crap like this
Their saving grace is a lack of competition, but that won’t last forever. I seriously would be fired if I pulled crap like this
Viajero
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This would be outrageous. If this was true maybe someone perhaps could make a video about how exploitative FDEV is with demands and open letters .
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