Comparing what is and what isn't, Pay attention.

I stopped playing ED on the Xbox after 2,200 hours in early 2017 and switched over to PC. I've managed 5,500 hours total over Xbox and PC since I bought into the GPP on Xbox. Even on early alpha testing and since the release of Odyssey, I didn't have many performance issues...saying that, I'm a regular Star Citizen player which runs like pants anyway...so what do I know? :D

Odyssey just after release on my rig... 60fps ain't too bad 🤷‍♂️

Which rig specs to you have ?

myself

Pro: Ryzen 5 3600
Graficards: GeForce GTX 1660 TI
RAM: 16GB DDR4 32000 mhz

Games running good, only on high CZ I have drops between 30-40 fps
 
The problem is that to make Odyssey work on console they would have needed a current gen version of the game. Then they'd need to continue optimising Odyssey so it would run well (this would be happening regardless since we are still getting at least 3 more updates) and somewhere in there port Odyssey only on current gen. Personally I think there was doubt the time and resources involved would get them the return they wanted, especially since the time put into Odyssey on PC would already have been delaying other projects. That's what happened.

Odyssey would also be fine if people upgrade from their potato PCs too. Is that something we should be saying?
Or we could equally say that FDevs developers aren't that great.
 
So, you're just an Odyssey player. That makes all the sense in you thought possess.
If you mean me...I'm a Star Citizen player, have been for many years. I keep ED:O updated and installed out of nostalgia but haven't played regularly for some time. RNGineers kinda killed ED for me as my go to space game.

All in all, practically all of my 5,500 hours were spent in ED...around 100 hours in Odyssey only.
 
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oh oh oh its a rig fight.
R9 5950 X570e ooooowifi2 128gig 2-64s d4 3200's duel rtx 3080ti 1200power and a light up fans....LOL...well 3 ....LMAO
 
They just released this thing called Arma Reforger. I dont think any Arma game has been on console before, but with the new engine, and way they have laid things out, they have released this on PC as well as XBox Series X and S. I dont have those consoles, but am enjoying it on PC.

Seeing that has opened up possibilities...I dont think I'd have ever expected Arma to be on a console, ever, but there it is. Maybe it took the new engine to achieve that, but good thing for ED fans is that FDev make their own engines too. Maybe their next engine will allow much more, just like BI's has with Arma.
 
Star Citizen is free to play?
I've seen the starting package costing around 45-50 Euros. How is that Free?

And why Elite is not free to play? I payed 20 Euro on my Elite XB account i played it (i still do) for like 3000 hours.
My Steam account (horizons enabled) was 12.5 Euro - Plus Odyseey, we're getting close to the same price for a starter Package in SC, but i have almost 3000 hours on steam too...

Comparing released games with the scam that is SC is quite preposterous
 
I have several friends that have sunk like $400 worth of money into ships way back when. So they were sayin you could just download the game but had to buy a ship to fly. My brothers friend spent like $80 on one, $180 total I guess. Not sure if he plays with them or not. that much he damn well better play with them...LOL. I've been lookin into the mining ships. Don't know why but I just love mining.
 
I have several friends that have sunk like $400 worth of money into ships way back when. So they were sayin you could just download the game but had to buy a ship to fly. My brothers friend spent like $80 on one, $180 total I guess. Not sure if he plays with them or not. that much he damn well better play with them...LOL. I've been lookin into the mining ships. Don't know why but I just love mining.
I've spent a few bob on SC over the years...mining is kinda what I do...when it's not broken...
 
Consoles weren't the problem in the slightest, since they're very good at what they do...getting ED:O to work presentably on last gen consoles was FDev's problem. Such a PC master race attitude blaming consoles for everything ;)
Nicely put. (y)
I disagree slightly...

The problem was their implementation of the "Odyssey" vision.

In order to get all of the vision in there they had to aim really high on the CPU/GPU content on their COBRA engine, which nearly put it out of range of anything less than high end PC.

In the meantime, they've been able to optimize it down to upper mid grade PC.

Their expectation that last gen consoles would handle their implementation, even with further optimization, was their big boo boo...

(I now see @Dillon Fallon had the same ideas)
 
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I disagree slightly...
No problem, my agreement was in the statement - it was Frontier's problem.
The problem was their implementation of the "Odyssey" vision.
Which is the biggest bone of contention - the alpha had performance issues, but all of the time those who were playing it were being given assurances by Arf that the version we had was 'old' and the release candidate was much better. Look at what was released, even the planetary tech was worse than alpha, not only the performance.

Something went amiss between the lead-up to the alpha (when videos were plugging all platforms) and the release, that was as problem for Frontier, as well as players, as the expansion would not run acceptably on PCs with the published specs - it has improved, but not delivered the 'significant performance increases' we were told to expect.

Dr Ross had said thright up until the time she left Frontier they were working on EDO for consoles - to drop them is an admission that it could never be pared down enough to work on the last generation consoles, and current generation had never been on the roadmap.

Frontier still have a problem with EDO performance, it is better than it was, certainly, but still feels a long way in performance from Horizons... Possibly it is due to both new and reworked assets requiring higher specs than they anticipated, or something else entirely. But they are still working to improve the expansion, so no complaints from me.
 
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