Hardware & Technical Computer Build to run Elite Dangerous

Honestly, not many people can afford to purchase a PC with outrageous specs, so more optimisation is being done to further reduce the minimum specs for those that are financially challenged. If FD can keep E:D fluid in almost all areas of the game with minimum specs, then we have got ourselves a very well written game.
One thing I'm concerned about is the compatibility of CrossFireX for ATI GFX cards. I have 2x R9-290Xs with 4GB each, but I can't run it CrossFired because I get weird graphical anomalies. Any thoughts?
 
If anyone wants to have a look for graphics card benchmarks, this is what I use at the moment...

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Give you an idea, anything above the 4000 mark, will run Elite on full res. As long as you have the Processor above a dual core. :cool:

I'm probably doing something wrong because my GPU gets 922 points, I have Dual core Core 2 with IDE HDD yet the game plays just fine. 1280x1024 FSAA full screen, medium settings.
 
I'm probably doing something wrong because my GPU gets 922 points, I have Dual core Core 2 with IDE HDD yet the game plays just fine. 1280x1024 FSAA full screen, medium settings.

Your not doing anything wrong if the game plays ok for you.

See you out there!!!
 
If anyone wants to have a look for graphics card benchmarks, this is what I use at the moment...

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Give you an idea, anything above the 4000 mark, will run Elite on full res. As long as you have the Processor above a dual core. :cool:

Thx for advice. I made some tests with these results.

My PC:
i5-4670 3400 MHz @ 3591 MHz
8 GB DDR3 Crucial 1600mhz
nVidia ASUS GTX660OC-DC2 (2GB)
GIGABYTE H87M-D3H
128 GB SSD Crucial (OS + few games include E: D installed)
2 x 1 TB HDD

My PassMark benchmark:
Overall: 4.132
CPU: 7.831
G3D: 4.545
HDD: 2.511



My FPS (1920x1080, High, FXAA=ON, VSync=OFF), Docking tutorial:
Hangar: 45 - 55
Hangar launch pad: 60 - 70
Outside: 70 - 120

When I change shadows to MED, my Hangar FPS increase to 60+.

Of course, I must test on more places, but this game looks like very HW friendly.

P.S. Maybe will be interesting add to E: D ingame benchmark test.
 
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What graphics card do you have... It could be that your cpu is the bottle neck, being only a dual core...

The only bottleneck that he probably will experience is the neck on the bottle of beer he is drinking. Bottlenecking is such a freaking overused term, and guess what, with PCI express it is pretty much obsolete. Anyway instead of going on my regular 3 page dissertation on how you don't know what your talking about I'll just let you see this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM


Cheers.
 
I'm probably doing something wrong because my GPU gets 922 points, I have Dual core Core 2 with IDE HDD yet the game plays just fine. 1280x1024 FSAA full screen, medium settings.
What graphics card do you have... It could be that your cpu is the bottle neck, being only a dual core...
The only bottleneck that he probably will experience is the neck on the bottle of beer he is drinking. Bottlenecking is such a freaking overused term, and guess what, with PCI express it is pretty much obsolete. Anyway instead of going on my regular 3 page dissertation on how you don't know what your talking about I'll just let you see this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM


Cheers.
Please go ahead... I would like to read 3 pages of crap, instead of the 2 lines you published... Would be very entertaining.


Even the video you shared was flawed, sounds like you do not know what you are talking about either. Maybe you should leave it to the professionals next time, instead of posting a weak clip like that!!!

Sigh, the professionals... never mind that I've been building computers and setting up networks since 1999, and that I did it professionally for the DoD for nine years, before I moved to the private sector. Admittedly most of my experience is in the networking end in commercial data centers. I do know a thing or two about PC builds, the underlying architecture, and what causes performance issues.

Your processor does not have much of an impact on your video card's ability to process data. All the processor does is tell the GPU what to que up next, in a game that is more GPU intensive than CPU intensive such as Elite: Dangerous the hit on the processor is minimal at best, however the GPU does a lot of work. The PCIe lanes that are the connection between the processor and the GPU are where you would most likely take a hit in performance, but that simply isn't the case, since we still aren't using full PCIe 2.0 bandwidth, let alone PCIe 3.0 bandwidth. read : Theoretical vs. Actual Bandwidth PCIe and TB

Just to prove how little of a hit the processor takes in the game I took some screen shots of my G19's monitor that I keep up all the time. I know that I have a high end gaming desktop, that is currently over kill, but the underlying theory is the same, and the hit should scale relatively well to other computer systems. To set up this test I first took a screen shot without Elite: Dangerous running, just to get a benchmark of what my system is doing at near idle (I have 3 monitors, I had 4 tabs in chrome open, skype, and TeamSpeak running along with some other background processes)

This is what I got as a base line:

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13% CPU usage and 4% GPU utilization.

The next thing I did was to run Elite: Dangerous and go to an area where I would stress the processor and the GPU, I figured most people get frame drops in Super Cruise so I went near a star and throttled up below are the results of that adventure:

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25% Cpu utilization and 29% GPU utilization. For a net of 13% CPU and 25% GPU utilization by the game. To be honest I was expecting more GPU utilization, So I went and found myself a space station thinking that surely with more ships and the station spinning I would definitely stress the GPU more. I ended up at Boodt Gateway in the Li Quang system. This yielded the results below :

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That's a little bit closer to what I was expecting for CPU utilization but it's still not maxing out feeding data to the GPU we're still only at 37% CPU and 37% GPU utilization. For a net increase of 24% and 33% since before I started.

Then because I wanted to further prove that I was not experiencing any kind of bottle neck, I went ahead and ran Unigine Heaven which really only stresses the GPU but still has to use the CPU to feed the information to it. Once more here are the results:

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At maximum draw my CPU was at 34% and my GPU was pegged (I know it reads as 99% but the scale is from 0-99 so it should be 100% it's a software limitation) for a net increas of 21% load on the CPU and 96% on the GPU.

For system reference I use an i7-4770k overclocked at stock power to 4.4Ghz, and a GTX980 overclocked at stock power to 1508Mhz.

So that is 8 threads through the CPU to the Graphics Card, honestly looking back I wish I would have put up the GPU RAM usage on my monitor, but hind sight is 20/20, I assume no matter what the game would use as much of the frame buffer as it could so that would be interesting to see. I also run the game in borderless window mode at 1080p on high settings.

Now then making a bold assumptions that CPU usage is uniform across all systems, all threads are prioritized the same, and that computing power across the thread in parallel are additive. The aggregate cpu usage of the game at it's peak all max is 8.448 Ghz of processing power (4.4Ghz (max CPU speed) * .24 (max usage increase on the CPU) * 8 (number of threads)). Now divide that by 4 to get the load per core of 2.112 Ghz, which is in line with the minimum requirements of a quad core processor for the minimum specs on max settings, probably in the 2.6 - 3.0 Ghz range, a little bit less if it's hyper threaded for the minimum processor on max settings.

But wait!!!! MARPATdroid, you forgot this whole thing started over a dual core processor question? He wanted to know if it would hold back his GPU... Well I tested the settings on the low preset, I could have taken them lower by adjusting the draw distance, but I left that at max where it defaults too.

This is what I got at the same max utilization point I was at for the previous math calculation:
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29% CPU usage and 14% GPU usage, for a net of 16% CPU and 10% GPU usage. so we go back to our trusty CPU power formula (4.4Ghz (max CPU speed) * .16 (max usage increase on the CPU) * 8 (number of threads)) for an aggregate CPU usage of 5.632 Ghz on low. We will go ahead and divide that by 2 and that give us 2.816 Ghz per core load of work, and I am willing to bet that Pendra (the wonderful commander in question) is playing on a Core2Duo E7600 (3.06Ghz) or higher which uses the LGA775 chipset which means most likely has a GPU slotted in a PCI 2.0 x8 or x16 slot, and is neither maxing out his CPU, or utilizing the full bandwidth of his PCIe lanes.


While I have enjoyed writing this post it is 1:30 am and this has seriously cut into my drinking and space exploration time. I'm gonna go get a beer, and fly around to the other side of the pill, I'm also going to turn my graphics back up to high, because it looks weird set to low.


TL: DR; The CPU is most likely not bottle necking his GPU, especially in an artificial benchmark, since all it has to do is send instructions to the GPU and not actually process anything, more over he says the game runs fine for him so it really doesn't matter.

Beer
 
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^^ I find the GPU and CPU usage of ED vary quite a bit. In open space CPU is low(er), in big battles the CPU seems to get hammered.
 
Can i run it?

Hi everybody!

I first want to thank the Frontier team for their amasing work and all the beta testers who help this game to evolve.

My problem is the next, i'm ready to buy the game but i'm just scared about one thing, my setup is a Laptop I7 3610, 8G Ram, Gt650m 2G and i would like to know if this will be enough to run the game correctly "without low settings everywhere", i have send a ticket to the support that send me back the minimal requirements for the game which is not really helping me "in the past for other games i should have been able to run them great but for some reasons i got issues even if i had a lot more power than the minimal requirements" and because there will be no demos or rufund possibilities i really don't want to buy it and get a bad surprise, so if a good computer guy or maybe someone which is using the same setup can help me and tell me his own experience with it.
My computer serie is a Asus N76VZ.
I really really want to get in this game and this "issue" is this only thing stoping me right now, so i don't know if there is a way to test or something just to be shure it runs great.
After a month i have send a new ticket to the support that answering me to go here and ask because they have no really possibilities to answer me so i'm hoping you guys can help me.

Regards.

Cobraa
 
My problem is the next, i'm ready to buy the game but i'm just scared about one thing, my setup is a Laptop I7 3610, 8G Ram, Gt650m 2G and i would like to know if this will be enough to run the game correctly "without low settings everywhere", i have send a ticket to the support that send me back the minimal requirements for the game which is not really helping me "in the past for other games i should have been able to run them great but for some reasons i got issues even if i had a lot more power than the minimal requirements" and because there will be no demos or rufund possibilities i really don't want to buy it and get a bad surprise, so if a good computer guy or maybe someone which is using the same setup can help me and tell me his own experience with it.
My computer serie is a Asus N76VZ.
I really really want to get in this game and this "issue" is this only thing stoping me right now, so i don't know if there is a way to test or something just to be shure it runs great.
After a month i have send a new ticket to the support that answering me to go here and ask because they have no really possibilities to answer me so i'm hoping you guys can help me.

I have an 8GB i5 with a GT650M laptop (so it's actually a bit slower than yours), and whilst I'd be lying if I said it was as good as my desktop machine (it isn't), it's certainly more than playable. The new Nvidia drivers help a LOT with this setup. I get about 40fps in a station, and 60fps in space on 1366x768 with most things turned on.

My laptop is a Samsung 550P5C with an i5 3210 2.6Ghz. It's actually below the minimum spec.

Hope that helps.

P.S. please don't mess with the colours on your posts... I could hardly read your text without highlighting the whole thing - it just appeared almost blank with the forum's Elite theme on my monitor. Ta. ;)
 
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I've been playing Elite in windowed mode with Borderless Gaming and overlaying Open Hardware Monitor so I can watch CPU/GPU stats in-game.

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I have a quad core (4690k), but looking at CPU total utilization, rarely does it ever hit 50%. The GPU does most of the work in this game. I really think you'd be fine running on a dual-core. Maybe you wouldn't be able to run everything 100% maxed out, but it's not like it would be unplayable.
 
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This is my Rig...

Over clocked if I want running stander settings atm

OS: windows 8.1 64 bit

Cooler master case Haf XB

Giga byte 4k video/audio board (Z87-HD3)

I5 4670 (intel water cooler)

16 gigs of ram sport (holds 32 gigs ram) (Kingston memory stick 2 fan cooler)

Plextor pcie ssd

giga byte wind force R9 270x (4 gigs of ddr5 ram) (up to 4k by 4 monitors) (in the picture it was a MSI Video card)

900 pro gamer power suppy

2 internet inputs (merged and doubles data transfer rate)

12 fans (The side of the case is a mod job I did after getting the case and I bought the new top from cooler master)

1) (2) 8 mm on bottom back
2) 200 mm fan on the side
3) (2) 140 mm fans on front
4) 140 mm power supply fan
5) (3) 60 or 80 mm fans on video card
6) water cooler fan
7) (2) memory stick cooler fans

Storage is more then I will use, with 2 quick swap bays, and a blu ray dvd, cs player, I just bought a blank drew coming from Amazon for the 2nd 5.25 drive bay (holds flash drives that kind of thing)




Over all I like the build, did all the research online (a lot of youtube,etc) then built it myself.

PS: H.O.T.A.S do here around DEC 15, 2014
 
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Win 8.1 x64
Asus ROG M6H
i7 4770K @ 4.5Ghz
8GB Corsair Vengeance pro 1600Mhz
Gigabyte Windforce R9 290 OC
2 x Crucial MX100 and 1 x Samsung 840 pro
AOC Q2770pqu

Plays the game just fine @ 1440p with all settings maxed, except blur is off - I hate blur.

@ T.I.M.E.X No we don't have to buy the game again, and I thoroughly recommend a HOTAS setup.
 
Game runs great (30-60fps - wont go higher than 60, as VSYNC is on), everything on max (except using FXAA instead of normal AA) 1080p on a $700 PC built 2 years ago (Processor upgraded this year)
It never seems slow or "jerky" - just a little stutter on entering hyperspace, but I believe this is a lag issue to the server.

FX6350 @4.2GHZ
Radeon 6870
8 GB Ram (DDR3 1600)
128GB SSD
 
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I5 4770 (intel water cooler)


Sweet looking rig, I think my wife would like it if I had a case that small for my machine, but I have the NZXT Phantom 630. I had a bit of confusion though, do you have the i5 4670 or the i7 4770? It really doesn't matter, but I'm a bit OCD, and the conflicting part number has been bugging me.

PS. You don't have to buy the game again at launch, if your playing know you'll be playing then.

PSS. Buy the Joystick, preferably a HOTAS style with the separate throttle, changes the game completely. I would never go back to KB/M.
 
2 internet inputs (merged and doubles data transfer rate)

6 fans (The side of the case is a mod job I did after getting the case and I bought the new top from cooler master)

Six fans sounds a little over kill (noisy) surely?

My system (while playing Elite) runs at below 40 degrees, meaning only one case fan (at the rear) is even bothering to run, at that's at at just 50%... The 200mm on the front doesn't even turn on till 45 degrees.
 
New rig:

Intel i7- 4790K (stock clock 4 Ghz, 4.4 Ghz boost)
2 x Palit GTX970 (stock clock 1.050 Ghz) Sli
Asus ROG Maximum Ranger VII Motherboard
Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
32 GB Kingston HyperX 1600 Mhz RAM
OS Drive - 120 GB Samsung Evo840 SSD (OS optimised and in RAPID mode)
System Drive - 1 TB Samsung Evo840 SSD
Coolermaster HAF 912 Advanced case

Runs DK2 at 2560x1440 downsampled, ED settings medium/high. The only places I see any FPS loss are in the top end luxury stations, everywhere else is a steady 75FPS.
 
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LMAO , my bad I5 4670 (OH btw this system is over clocked, but running stander for this game) HOTAS to be here around the 15th, from amazon.
 
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LMAO I forgot about the 3 fans on the video card, that makes it, wait, recounting


1) 2 8mm on bottom back
2) big fan on the side
3) 2 fans on front
4) power supply fan
5) 3 fans on video card
6) water cooler fan
7) memory stick cooler 2 fans

OKey that is all of them total 12


Your right that is a lot of fans :) fans are on low, it isn't bad...
 
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LMAO I forgot about the 3 fans on the video card, that makes it, wait, recounting


1) 2 8mm on bottom back
2) big fan on the side
3) 2 fans on front
4) power supply fan
5) 3 fans on video card
6) water cooler fan
7) memory stick cooler 2 fans

OKey that is all of them total 12


Your right that is a lot of fans :) fans are on low, it isn't bad...

Well, all I can say is while playing Elite last night, my system was running so cool (<40 degrees), the front 200mm fan turned off and the rear 140mm and CPU cooler fans were running at only 50%. That only leaves the graphics card and PSU fans, which I can't hear.

Why you need so many fans is beyond me... Are you trying to make the thing fly? :)


My main system runs quieter than my Dell 3010 secondary system! ;)
 
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