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Frontier should really consider renaming the game to Elite: Zimbabwe at this stage.I think a combination of errors.
- The initial CG targets were set at 5 tiers, 17 million total deliveries each. Since the last time they'd done this sort of CG, with basically the same materials, had got 20 million total deliveries over the course of the week ... that doesn't seem an unreasonable target, but of course it's a rare CG type so they don't have that good data on variation ...
- Tier 5 payout is 1 billion for top 10, and a few hundred million for top 10%/25%. That's high - but the research CG type doesn't give you any payout except the final CG reward ... whereas a typical bounty CG you'd have at least 100 million in bounties for a top 10% finish before the CG reward was even considered. And that's if it got to Tier 5, which on the basis of the previous research CG it probably wouldn't. So, generous payouts at T5, comparable to a normal CG at T4, weaker below that.
Then it turned out to be extremely popular relative to the last CG of the same type - more plot salience, some niche but interesting modules, etc. - so it was clear that it was going to end by Saturday morning or so. So, the CG targets were - with the benefit of full hindsight - set far too low despite seeming reasonable at the time.
In the interest of not having two weeks out of three fail to make it to the weekend, they extended both CGs with some massive extra tiers - fair enough. Unfortunately, they then had the tier payments just keep scaling up on the same pattern of the earlier ones. So of course then when Hudson hit Tier 6 and that became obvious, there was a massively uncharacteristic rush of extra people into the CG, which means even the ridiculously high target is also going to be smashed...
Essentially some entirely understandable misses on the initial CG size have ended up escalating through further easy mistakes into Hudson bankrupting the Federal budget... (maybe we'll see Galnet acknowledge that while Hudson has got his way on surveillance, even some Republican representatives in Congress are murmuring about the excessive spending?)
Hopefully this convinces the people who think Frontier are carefully manipulating CG outcomes to their preferred option, that Frontier really are not able to predict player behaviour, even in aggregate, anywhere near that preciselyThey were off by a factor of more than ten on this one...
Not from me, my friend! I just break wind quietly and blame the dog...Smells like FOMO in here.
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I'm at that stage for both mats and credits so.. all about the combo modules now lol.
Not all cmdrs are doing it for the credits, some are doing it to help their NPC crew member put food on the table.
<--- totally doing it for the credits. Only way I'm every going to get a Carrier.
Tip: Don't install too many services, the weekly upkeep can get expensive.<--- totally doing it for the credits. Only way I'm every going to get a Carrier.
Thought I read if you own a carrier there is a fixed weekly upkeep fee of around 6 to 10 million. So if you add more services to a carrier does the weekly upkeep fee increase above that
Nice to read that I am not the only one who was thinking that the cg stuff earns way too much money and ruins progression. For a game that tries really hard to be an mmo-type game I have to say you get the best enjoyment and progression if you play mostly in privat or solo and totally ignore all community stuff like cg and galnet news. Strange but if you do that it has actually a very nice progression.
Generally speaking:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6MzYnOZ0NQ
The issue lies in playing against cmdrs who have different ideas and make cash faster than you, however an A-rated, fully engineered pvp ship costs the same whoever you are - so once you're a billionaire the credits matter less than the skill.
I agree with you that the value of money has been eroded since launch to the point that it's too easy to earn and credits are virtually meaningless.
It's possible to enjoy the CG's and other bits'n''bobs in all modes provided you just stick to your own rules - i/e no logging etc.
The issue lies in playing against cmdrs who have different ideas and make cash faster than you, however an A-rated, fully engineered pvp ship costs the same whoever you are - so once you're a billionaire the credits matter less than the skill.
I agree with you that the value of money has been eroded since launch to the point that it's too easy to earn and credits are virtually meaningless.
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As a returning commander after >5 years away, on a new system so can't get my old stuff, I appreciate this opportunity. I suspect it is rare that a cg's goals are viable in small ships with limited engineering. This cg could well introduce newer players to finding and trading materials effectively, while giving them a boost to their wallet.
Been to Jamiesons wreckage, scanned, arrived back at Gresley. Can't off load my data scans?
If I did it on solo like advised, do I need to relocate back from open to solo? I'm at a loss with the relogging thing.
If I did it on solo like advised, do I need to relocate back from open to solo? I'm at a loss with the relogging thing.
Can you join the chorus of nerfs after the CG is complete please daddy needs a new carrier.
Thank god this ends tonight! I am currently on the bubble for top 10%... The $,$$$,$$$,$$$.$$ is just too good to pass up. Watch when Odyssey drops FC's will now cost 100 BILLION or more, would be just like Fdev.
Agreed, something is way off.
I timed myself. From Gresley Dock 3 jumps(dbx) to Jameson's, relogging, 3 jumps back, trading, delivering, 45-47min per round. All together did 4 rounds. 39442 delivered. Didn't deliver all from last round, saved something for later use.
So in total, I spent something like less than 3 hours of my not-at-all-fun gameplay for top 25 % reward.
Not at all proud about it, but that possible reward for time involved, that twisted my arm...
Edit: actual biggest grind for me was trading and delivering, not relogging. That was like: seriously?! But that reward...
I timed myself. From Gresley Dock 3 jumps(dbx) to Jameson's, relogging, 3 jumps back, trading, delivering, 45-47min per round. All together did 4 rounds. 39442 delivered. Didn't deliver all from last round, saved something for later use.
So in total, I spent something like less than 3 hours of my not-at-all-fun gameplay for top 25 % reward.
Not at all proud about it, but that possible reward for time involved, that twisted my arm...
Edit: actual biggest grind for me was trading and delivering, not relogging. That was like: seriously?! But that reward...
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