Dear FD when you plan to patch BETA on live server?

Mr_Foxhound · Nov 10, 2016

Obnoxious_Gamer said:
Gaijin Entertainment are more open to communication than FD are. Which is...depressing, to say the least.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats funny

withnail · Nov 10, 2016

Why did the OP get banned? Curious.

Luponator · Nov 10, 2016

Soon(TM) said:
Can you please add 3d Anaglyph colour bleed and ghosting to this bug list.

Thanks man.

Absolutely- got a bug report at hand?
Edit: Added the beta bug report

babelfisch · Nov 10, 2016

BluStar said:
uh, im not game developer but i do know programming and how it usually works, but...

i think that words "hotfix" started being used for patches that were needed pretty fast because of game breaking bugs (aka not being able to play with wingmate because game freezes, 2.2 feature and many more)

leaving players like this for weeks not being able to do conflict zones together, especially for people who participate in powerplay wings is very gamebreaking, frustrating and makes player quit the game..

and following patch that takes a bit more time to fix all other moderate and minor bugs that doesnt obstruct in way of letting player play his game...

im starting to think sometimes that developers at Fdev dont have much idea what are they doing and are pretty green, no offense just constructive criticism

P.S. amount of whiteknights in this thread is ridiculous

- a hotfix can only be applied shortly if the problem is easy to fix. What tells you that they have already fixed your issue?
- there are lots of different opinions on what is important or unimportant. For me fixing wings is absolutely unimportant because it doesn't affect me. Maybe the stuff that is important to me is unimportant to you.
- fixing one thing sometimes breaks another, that's why they try to release bigger and better tested updates, rushing patches would lead to exactly the same issues we already have.

I think all these points are reasonable and easy to understand. If you think I am a white knight it tells more about you than about me.

huehnerfaust · Nov 10, 2016

babelfisch said:
- fixing one thing sometimes breaks another, that's why they try to release bigger and better tested updates, rushing patches would lead to exactly the same issues we already have.

As in every major patch fdev has released so far? Do you remember the release of 2.2? 2.1, 1.5? They where riddled with bugs...
Jet they pushed back the releases serveral times of every patch so far, did that solve anythink? Everytime i get the feeling, that nobody did test the latest patch.

But yeah, i understand, nobody wants to read bad news, we are all hoping that sometimes the good thinks start to supersede all the bad.

But the most important think to me is, nobody wants to regred buying a faulty software, so they start to defend the company which they paid for. Hilarious.

babelfisch · Nov 10, 2016

huehnerfaust said:
As in every major patch fdev has released so far? Do you remember the release of 2.2? 2.1, 1.5? They where riddled with bugs...
Jet they pushed back the releases serveral times of every patch so far, did that solve anythink? Everytime i get the feeling, that nobody did test the latest patch.

But yeah, i understand, nobody wants to read bad news, we are all hoping that sometimes the good thinks start to supersede all the bad.

But the most important think to me is, nobody wants to regred buying a faulty software, so they start to defend the company which they paid for. Hilarious.

So because every patch had bugs you'd like to see a patch introducing even more bugs? Doesn't make any sense. BTW, I don't defend anything, I just think your logic is flawed.

Theodrid · Nov 10, 2016

huehnerfaust said:
Jet they pushed back the releases serveral times of every patch so far, did that solve anythink? Everytime i get the feeling, that nobody did test the latest patch.

'Did that solve anything' - of course it bloody did, what a ridiculous statement, but guess what, it solved a number of the bugs and issues you didn't/don't see, and, because you didn't see or are not aware of them, in your world Frontier just pushed the release back for what? - <reasons>?

huehnerfaust · Nov 10, 2016

babelfisch said:
So because every patch had bugs you'd like to see a patch introducing even more bugs? Doesn't make any sense. BTW, I don't defend anything, I just think your logic is flawed.

Ok, where did i say we should introduce more patches?
I wondered why there are still people who defend fdev. Because they clearly fail at delivering a working product. Thats all.
But as we see, you are already on there side, because i don't know, and it doesn't matter anyhow.

But estimating my saying and telling me my "logic" is flawed, is typicaly defending your selfrightous, because you fail to see that fdev is not that great at developing game rules.

But as other great players already said, don't hate the player, hate the game.

Agony_Aunt · Nov 10, 2016

withnail said:
Why did the OP get banned? Curious.

He called you a jerk.

j/k

Sorry, but we can't discuss bans except with the person who received the ban.

Wicz · Nov 10, 2016

babelfisch said:
BTW, I don't defend anything,

I very nearly choked on a parsnip while reading that.

Ian Phillips · Nov 10, 2016

Everyone - you are welcome to post about patches/bugs etc, but please stop making remarks about each other.

Thank You.

Arka · Nov 10, 2016

Due to the so huge amount of bugs, just as Luponator posted. Patch within 2 weeks is just asking impossible. I'd say it will take 4 months or a month. Some of them were also very annoying and I ended up setting myself some exploration trip around Sag A*, and Colonia, and by the time I back I can only hope the patch already there

iFred · Nov 10, 2016

Sole Hunter said:
probably in 6 months, that's how long it took to fix heat weapons.

They were broken? Or just working as intended, but a little bad luck in design?

verminstar · Nov 10, 2016

elliv said:
Due to the so huge amount of bugs, just as Luponator posted. Patch within 2 weeks is just asking impossible. I'd say it will take 4 months or a month. Some of them were also very annoying and I ended up setting myself some exploration trip around Sag A*, and Colonia, and by the time I back I can only hope the patch already there

And if one needs jumponium? Good luck with that srv scanner...yer gonna need that and the patience of a saint.

Speccy · Nov 10, 2016

I first reported the bug with multi-hop passenger missions being unable to continue on the first day of beta 2.2 back on 20th September: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/291156-Tourist-Mission-cannot-end

As did several others, and at regular intervals as new betas were released. And this major bug affecting a flagship feature of the 2.2 update still isn't fixed, 7 weeks later.

I assume it's all hands-on-deck atm for the Planet Coaster release?

NMS · Nov 10, 2016

cyberus said:
As the title says..... getting bit bored to play this " bug buster" build you have realised to the live server.

So please be so kind and give use estimated time when you finely release normal build of 2.2 instead of this Beta build wich actually never been supposed released in this condition to live server and make from you paid customers are frustrated beta testers.

Tnx in advance for your response!

Arcadius said:
Regardless of tone policing, the OP is spot on. The OP is obviously ANGRY at the way in which FDEV have passed off the latest patch as finished, when in fact it is clearly half baked.

I agree, but the game is in this state for one or another aspect since launch. And with each new update of content, new problems present themselves, and unfortunately they continue uncorrected, as usual.

babelfisch · Nov 10, 2016

huehnerfaust said:
Ok, where did i say we should introduce more patches?
I wondered why there are still people who defend fdev. Because they clearly fail at delivering a working product. Thats all.
But as we see, you are already on there side, because i don't know, and it doesn't matter anyhow.

But estimating my saying and telling me my "logic" is flawed, is typicaly defending your selfrightous, because you fail to see that fdev is not that great at developing game rules.

But as other great players already said, don't hate the player, hate the game.

There are no "sides", I am neither on FDEVs side nor on your side. I want to see those bugs fixed ASAP just like you do. Doesn't change the fact that a rushed patch doesn't necessarily make a better game, that's why I think your logic is flawed.

Arka · Nov 10, 2016

verminstar said:
And if one needs jumponium? Good luck with that srv scanner...yer gonna need that and the patience of a saint.

I have carried enough materials for some FSD boost, and I doubt I would be using it at all, it was just trip to Sag A and Colonia, and my ship is fully grade 5 engineered fsd...

Shar · Nov 10, 2016

I've had a great day and all i have is a big

for you all. This kind of disscussion is not going to get the patch out any quicker it's just going to give you high blood pressure and granky pants syndrome, I'm on a break myself trying some long overdue new stuff out but if it's really that bad and your not exagerating, just play something else for a while, I'll let you all in on a little secret mono gamers are unhappy gamers because you will forever be waiting for the next patch.

Fly safe commanders.

huehnerfaust · Nov 10, 2016

babelfisch said:
There are no "sides", I am neither on FDEVs side nor on your side. I want to see those bugs fixed ASAP just like you do. Doesn't change the fact that a rushed patch doesn't necessarily make a better game, that's why I think your logic is flawed.

They never rushed anythink (to be precise exactly the opposide, delaying any major release up until now)
But managed to introduce always more bugs into the game (exagerated, sometimes they are able to kill some). So if i would asume some logic, maybe they should start rushing?

Just like the never ever working multi stage mission, they where bugged from release and they keep beeing buggy in the passenger missions. I realy appreciate your patience, but beeing patient over two years now, makes me only feel angry.