The ability to deal more damage than the Thargoid can regenerate is part of the mechanics, which is why it only works on the Cyclops while soloing.
Destroying Thargoids without killing all the hearts cheating/exploit?
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I totally agree. But that is skipping on the gibbin part. I can do three small ones between reloads. No idea how long it takes me. Perhaps 30-40 minutes.
At best it is not intended and will probably require some adjusting in the future, like so many other things in the past. It sometimes takes years for Frontier to address things like this, but it is definitely not a bannable offense - you won't be banned for legitimely doing more dps than a thargoid regenerates, the same way you can't be punished for the relog methods.
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I am not really sure what you are saying here. I can assure you that most of the AXI aces have a negative view of gibbing. I agree that if one wants to reward high-skill and high-risk activities, then proper AX combat should pay well. However, gibbing does not have the same level of high-skill and high-risk as engaging in proper AX combat, which is kindn of the point here. It requires neither a highly engineered ship nor an extreme skill level of the commanders. Soloing a medusa or hydra on the other hand is about as high-risk and skill you can get within PvE in Elite and should pay accordingly (it still doesn't, even after the buffs).
I would also like to point out that the AX community has been raising this issue for a long time without it being fixed. Possibly because up until now it has not become a credit grind. We shall see what the future holds.
Not an exploit at all; you bring a wing it = goes down faster...seems logical to me.
It is not about the speed. It is about circumventing the intended mechanics.
Sometimes when I take the final heart out I can shoot it enough that it dies before it's last shield pops up - is that not also "circumventing the intended mechanics"?
And I'd say bringing more ships means it goes down faster IS an intended mechanic.
Hope nobody here trades multiple different goods, or has ever failed a mission which caused a negative state, or simply abandoned a mission. These circumvent certain mechanics too.
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Sorry, but you are going to need some Fdev citation of "intended mechanics." While it would be foolish to argue the mechanics do not entail taking out hearts, finding ways around it are totally legitimate (emergent even) game play.
I keep thinking of some old time general with all his troops lined up in columns crying foul over the enemy not mindlessly sending in row after row of their troops, opting instead for a more beneficial, if not unconventional course of action.
Edit: weren't the first Thargoid kills just wings of Commanders lobbing dumbfires into them?
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I suppose it depends if you view it as a war or a bloodsport.
If it's war the aim is to cause the bug to die for it's species rather than the other way round.
If it's sport you might impose some sort of rules regarding tearing them apart whilst still alive, (white jodpurs and scarlet jacket optional) Tally Ho!
If it's war the aim is to cause the bug to die for it's species rather than the other way round.
If it's sport you might impose some sort of rules regarding tearing them apart whilst still alive, (white jodpurs and scarlet jacket optional) Tally Ho!
Again, it is not about speed.
Interceptors are enemies that are supposed to be the big hard PvE challenge. Show me the MMO where just bringing more people to an instance lets you press a single button to defeat the final raid boss.
Getting a few shots in before the shield comes online is a far cry away from gibbing in terms of avoided gane mechanics.
This reminds me of reading Montgomery's thoughts about British Army training prior to WW2. "The General likes the attack to go in this way........".
The Germans were not interested in what the General wanted.
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Only if it results in players earning more credits faster than FDev thinks they should...
This talk of gibbing boss-level baddies reminds me of one of the bosses off those Just Cause games; for those who haven’t seen or played them, your character has a grappling hook gadget and it’s immensely fun to tether two enemy choppers together and watch them spiral into each other and kablammo. One of the end bosses of the series fights you in a helicopter, and it’s supposed to be a dramatic and challenging boss fight. Or... you can swiftly use your grappled to tether his boss-attack-chopper to a nearby piece of scenery laugh as he instantly crashes and dies. Cheesy, yes, but a totally legit and inventive use of the game mechanics.
Somehow I feel this might be relevant to gibbing Thargoids... food for thought?
Somehow I feel this might be relevant to gibbing Thargoids... food for thought?
The only ones, that have the right to judge if an mechanic is intended or not are the developers! Anything else is personal opinion! Have the devs said, that the discussed mechanic is not intended? If so, please quote.
Oh, it is not "emergent gameplay" any more than the subsurface respawn mechanic was emergent gameplay in pulling people together in the cult of Egg. I don't think I need to remind you that this was nerfed into the ground and took the regular gameplay of subsurface mining with it to the grave.
Seriously who gives a **** what the "AX community" thinks? Until this thread I never even knew there was one. Maximum profit / minimum effort is the ED way and bollox to anything else, if it's dead I don't care how it got dead. There's no "right" way to kill a thargoid lol, just kill it until it's dead.