Very nice, The longer road map section had no information in it though but thank you for the work you are doing so far. Look forward to testing it tomorrow and providing feedback.
Development Update 1 - June
- Thread starter Arthur Tolmie
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I second this!
Agreed. I'm glad they're continuing to look into a sensible technical solution instead of just slapping something else out there that halfway fixes it.
So the VR DSS fix didn't make it in?
Nope, not really impressive IMHO.
The biggest elephants in the room are still "under investigation".
The biggest elephants in the room are still "under investigation".
There is simply not enough here to be confident in Elite's future. This is incredibly disheartening.
This was your opportunity to give us something other than noting basic improvements and acknowledging issues that should not have made it into release in the first place (there is no justification that the team did not know Odyssey would be released in a broken state).
You are effectively telling us that Elite has no future plans.
You've stated on SCN that there is more coming down the line. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt, given the pacing, that the Azimuth Saga is planned out well enough to hold up Elite's narrative until console launch. However, this pattern of giving us hope for something better and then significantly underdelivering makes those claims redundant because what we now expect is that whatever is planned down the line will continue to be underwhelming and disappointing and frustrating.
Here's a transcript of what you had to say about this dev post on yesterday's SCN:
"...all the information we are going to give -- and there's quite a bit of it --..."
And yet now you're admitting:
There's no way that you did have quite a bit of information that you were going to give and somehow that draft of this post was severely trimmed down.
Clearly you knew that there was not going to be quite a bit of information that you were going to give. How do you justify this given your communication philosophy of honesty?
Clearly it was an explicit lie that there was quite a bit of information that you were going to give. Clearly that was an untenable claim that was intended to give people false hope.
FDev mismanaged this unique, pivotal opportunity. Mismanagement is the operative word in this whole situation.
Warhammer and F1 must be paying attention and evaluating whether they want to be associated with a faulty business that can't deliver.
Good luck on stream Thursday.
Edit: https://steamdb.info/app/359320/graphs/
Elite gained 12110 Steam players in May 2021, its largest gain ever.
Elite then lost 13507 Steam players in June 2021, its largest loss ever and more than twice that of its second largest loss of 6727 in July 2020.
This reaction is indicative of a bait-and-switch.
FDev's About Us states:
"..Frontier’s underlying drive for innovation, timely delivery and above all, quality."
This was your opportunity to give us something other than noting basic improvements and acknowledging issues that should not have made it into release in the first place (there is no justification that the team did not know Odyssey would be released in a broken state).
You are effectively telling us that Elite has no future plans.
You've stated on SCN that there is more coming down the line. I don't doubt that. I don't doubt, given the pacing, that the Azimuth Saga is planned out well enough to hold up Elite's narrative until console launch. However, this pattern of giving us hope for something better and then significantly underdelivering makes those claims redundant because what we now expect is that whatever is planned down the line will continue to be underwhelming and disappointing and frustrating.
Here's a transcript of what you had to say about this dev post on yesterday's SCN:
"...all the information we are going to give -- and there's quite a bit of it --..."
And yet now you're admitting:
There's no way that you did have quite a bit of information that you were going to give and somehow that draft of this post was severely trimmed down.
Clearly you knew that there was not going to be quite a bit of information that you were going to give. How do you justify this given your communication philosophy of honesty?
Clearly it was an explicit lie that there was quite a bit of information that you were going to give. Clearly that was an untenable claim that was intended to give people false hope.
FDev mismanaged this unique, pivotal opportunity. Mismanagement is the operative word in this whole situation.
Warhammer and F1 must be paying attention and evaluating whether they want to be associated with a faulty business that can't deliver.
Good luck on stream Thursday.
Edit: https://steamdb.info/app/359320/graphs/
Elite gained 12110 Steam players in May 2021, its largest gain ever.
Elite then lost 13507 Steam players in June 2021, its largest loss ever and more than twice that of its second largest loss of 6727 in July 2020.
This reaction is indicative of a bait-and-switch.
FDev's About Us states:
"..Frontier’s underlying drive for innovation, timely delivery and above all, quality."
- There is nothing about Odyssey that is innovative. Odyssey is an unoriginal, half-hearted, shallow shooter which is divorced from what was innovative about Elite.
- Odyssey has not been delivered in a timely fashion. Many people argue that Odyssey is currently still in an alpha state and won't be truly considered released until console launch. This argument is justified by the extensive update patches as well as the info in this development update which acknowledges that significant work still needs to be done. They are still waiting for Odyssey to reach a release state.
- Odyssey was knowingly released in a broken state and still needs extensive work. This does not constitute quality.
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Where?
Tell me about nothing, its what FD does best with Powerplay.Still, better than nothing
Thank you for the info. A bit disappointed that the "longer roadmap" is "we're figuring it out". I think people need to hear at least some general conceptual direction for where Odyssey is going, beyond update 5. This isn't going to put out those fires.
Thanks for all the hard work, Arf. o7
Thanks for all the hard work, Arf. o7
So planetary tech is so broken, there isn't a time frame to when it'll be serviceable. Aside from space legs, the planetary tech is one of the major selling points of this whole expansion/dlc. This is so wack.
Thanks for the update. But prepare for riots. Especially on the:
Is as if you never tested it and never noticed the "repeatable pattern". But hey, I know how hard software dev is so. Good luck and keep us updated.
o7
- We understand this is an important topic within the community. As mentioned at the start of the article, we want to share the challenges as well as the positives. Investigations are still ongoing, however, it must be said that this is proving to be a very significant technical challenge. At the current time we do not have a workable solution. BUT, investigations will continue and we will keep you updated.
Is as if you never tested it and never noticed the "repeatable pattern". But hey, I know how hard software dev is so. Good luck and keep us updated.
o7
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
These will be monthly? Great!
I think this is a good start. The transparency and honesty is also greatly appreciated.
Not a lot of information overall, but if these updates will be posted regularly on a monthly basis, then I'm good.
Lookig forward to tomorrow's patch notes!
o7
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What info I am hoping for in the next one:
1. High level plan of Odyssey development (as opposed to bugfixing plan). What else can we expect? (If anything?). Granted you probably can't talk about everything.
2. Will there be any more Odyssey bugfixing patches between Patch 5 and Console Release?
3. Will you be working on fixing of the longstanding Horizons bugs? (Codex, megaship piracy etc.)
These are the 3 crucial bits of info I'd love to know about.
I think this is a good start. The transparency and honesty is also greatly appreciated.
Not a lot of information overall, but if these updates will be posted regularly on a monthly basis, then I'm good.
Lookig forward to tomorrow's patch notes!
o7
::EDIT::
What info I am hoping for in the next one:
1. High level plan of Odyssey development (as opposed to bugfixing plan). What else can we expect? (If anything?). Granted you probably can't talk about everything.
2. Will there be any more Odyssey bugfixing patches between Patch 5 and Console Release?
3. Will you be working on fixing of the longstanding Horizons bugs? (Codex, megaship piracy etc.)
These are the 3 crucial bits of info I'd love to know about.
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No answers to the biggest questions on the forum as per usual just glanced off with reworded news we already knew
There is literally no information in this paragraph.
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
We won't know until tomorrow's patch notes.
I do appreciate the information. However I think we were mostly hoping for information on the future roadmap (new features, etc.). That is what we'd like to hear.