Yep yep, Iben spelled it out for me already.
Well. I can surely say that I went from "yaaaay, PZ2" pre Planet Coaster 2 launch to "ah god, please delay the game and let it cook for another year."
Traumatised by the launch.
DLC 19 Speculation
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Well. I can surely say that I went from "yaaaay, PZ2" pre Planet Coaster 2 launch to "ah god, please delay the game and let it cook for another year."
Traumatised by the launch.
I don't think these are compareable. With JWE3 they have Universal as an additional decision maker in their back. So I compare it more to the other Planet game and... oh boy.
at least they are going to have a 2 year gap to fix any mistakes that planet coaster 2 had and make sure they dont come back in planet zoo 2
comparing animals to animals makes more sense to me than comparing animals to scenery. Both games offer the 2 sides to planet zoo planet coaster being a much closer proxy in core design which oh boy that didnt go well but jwe always has matched the dlc and content model better with the dinos than planet coaster did.
scenery in dlc and animals in dlc are very different in the ways in which players interact with them so comparing what did and didnt return in planet coaster doesnt seem as appropriate for speculation as what the philosophy was for jwe. I do agree that universal is playing a role but I can pretty safely assume they aren't telling frontier they arent allowed to remove animals or save them for dlc later.
Yeah, where I was going at: I would not be surprised if the base game does not have much more animals than PZ1 and they sell us most animals in DLCs again, when with JWE and JWE2 and JWE3 there is Universal that could say "we don't want to go that road and focus on bringing new species". And I think they have a huge role in what species are added.
But at the end of the day, currently I am more worried about general features, animal quality and sound work in PZ2 rather than which species or which amount are in. I don't have huuuuge problems with paying for most of the same animals again, as long as the DLCs are structured in a way that don't make me feel like I am paying for clones again and again and again, with only 1 uniquer animal per pack.
But at the end of the day, currently I am more worried about general features, animal quality and sound work in PZ2 rather than which species or which amount are in. I don't have huuuuge problems with paying for most of the same animals again, as long as the DLCs are structured in a way that don't make me feel like I am paying for clones again and again and again, with only 1 uniquer animal per pack.
Selfishly, I'm just glad that Planet Coaster 2 got to walk so that Planet Zoo 2 can hopefully sprint.
The two key lessons I'm hoping they've learned: (1) Don't fuss with the UI too much unless it's to add a new feature; and (2) People don't want to lose the old themes they've had access to for years.
Not expecting that we'll get everything in the game right now in a sequel at launch. But enough so, and with some new, that we'll have more than four options.
The two key lessons I'm hoping they've learned: (1) Don't fuss with the UI too much unless it's to add a new feature; and (2) People don't want to lose the old themes they've had access to for years.
Not expecting that we'll get everything in the game right now in a sequel at launch. But enough so, and with some new, that we'll have more than four options.
Ive said this before but imo the best way to approach it is to leave most of the new stuff in and leave out some of the old animals that need remodels anywways.
The orang strikes me as a prime candidate for this. Would it suck to not have these from the get go? Yes. Would they heavily benefit from headlining a DLC after launch so the devs can focus on them and give them the redo they desperately need? Also yes
The orang strikes me as a prime candidate for this. Would it suck to not have these from the get go? Yes. Would they heavily benefit from headlining a DLC after launch so the devs can focus on them and give them the redo they desperately need? Also yes
Same here. 200 animals is a crazy amount for a zoo game, and if PZ2 adds in birds/fish we can probably expect 300+ when it's all said and done.
If I had to choose, I'd happily take a PZ2 with only 100 animals but significant upgrades to the gameplay, animal models and other general features, then if we get every single animal with only portions of the upgrade features.
100 animals including birds and exhibit animals? Hmm... could be a bit of a low start then, but I'd really have to look at the roster to see if that would work for me.
I don't really believe in fish until I see it, but who knows.
Yeah that wouldn't be ideal. But if that was my choice I'd take the upgrades over the extra animals.
girlies….. have i been negative about this pack?
Yes, you're the most negative person here. I'm sick of your backtalk, we have rights
Planet Hospital incoming
obviously duh, at this point I'd double down on the negativity for the fun of it
Planet Planet - the next Spore game (oh man, I'd love that)
I watched your video yesterday, and from what I remember you weren’t super negative. I think you mentioned the American Flamingo isn’t your ideal choice, but that’s about it.
I may be mis-remembering but everyone from the YouTubers, to Reddit, to the Forums all seemed to have the same reaction to the pack?
“Really Frontier? No coati???”
Let's start a protest until we get coati
Hell no girl I didn't think so, I watched your video twice and it seemed very balanced. I always like your take on things and you make it clear when something is just a personal preference.
(Edit: ...and I agree with your implied position on the Urban Rescue Ranch)
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I also watched your video on the pack. Even the criticism you had was framed pretty positively. Anyone who says you were too negative either needs some pills or is taking too many.
No. I think you were fair. Often times you are too positive tbh so i apreciate the criticism. They should know when they screw up, and not including a coati in this pack was the biggest misstep of all.
For me personally not having animal return is an immediate deal breaker for me because certain animals if they dont make it into the base game likely wont come back since they were already controversial in the first game and I am pretty attached to every animal that is ingame. If maybe the only ones that didnt make it back were like the orangutan and lion stuff that there is absolutely no way they wont reintroduce it ill concede but otherwise it is my number one deal breaker.
honestly this screams bad idea to me because alot of the animals that need remodelling and would be prime candidates to be left out are zoo essentials like lions, wolves and brown bears. Also remember while we think of them as essential now would you trade a spurred tortoise for a grey wolf or a baboon for lions. Most of the animals from dlc post wetlands arent essential to building a zoo generally there are great useful animals but not ones that would make it into the top 75 most important especially if we got birds, exhibits and aquatics taking up some of those slots.