DLC 19 Speculation

If we're going for "pupular animals that would be relatively easy to implement", this is what I'd do:
  • American Black Bear
  • Puna Flamingo
  • Nile Crocodile
  • Grey Crowned Crane
  • Ocelot
  • Guianan Squirrel Monkey
  • Honey Badger
  • Emerald Tree Boa (Exhibit Animal)
This would honestly be a pretty good pack imo, would probably be received relatively warmly too, despite none of these being particularly outrageous picks. Replace the flamingo and I’d happily buy this.
 
Oh definitely, I like them for conservation reasons. Same reason I want the Peere David’s deer over the wapiti/ other ungulates and golden lion tamarins over other new world monkeys.
I think that if frontier is trying to group as much animals from different regions as possible, I think that an endangered pack would be the way to go. This talk about island bird has definitely made me to want one! I also would love to see the PD deer, its one of few ungulates I'm still interested in getting.
 
It's so funny that we, me included look at a pack with black bear, Nile croc, and serval and think "that pack would be pretty good, then first thing we get those things half the community would go crazy and get angry, don't get me wrong, most of those people never wanted those in the first place but I know that isn't the case for all of community.
 
Hey guys doesn't San Diego Zoo have the Dictionary Trio, you know what that means 😉

San Diego Zoo Animal Pack
Short-Beaked Echidna
Secretary Bird
Blackbuck
Matschie's Tree Kangaroo
Squirrel Monkey
Great White Pelican
American Flamingo
(Exhibit Animal) Tuatara
I mean it would make sense, especially when looking at PC's final pack
 
Endangered Pack
Golden Lion Tamarin
Pere Davids Deer
Grevy’s Zebra
Kagu
Matchie’s Tree Kangaroo
Giant Eland
Black-Footed Ferret
Zoo Scenery / Slow Loris WE
Change the zebra for the scretary bird and it's perfect! Would much prefer the slow loris than more scenery. Overall an ideal pack and one I would buy!
 
Last edited:
I wonder, is there any of the requested animals that you think is overrated and why?

For me it would be the Tree Kangaroo. Do not get me wrong, I totally think it should be in the game, I just do not see the appeal. I guess one reason is that I have never seen it in real life as there are none kept in my country.

The shoebill is overrated to me. There are many better and more useful options for African birds, and I would only consider it for the meme-factor if we got 1-2 better African birds.

The gelada is overrated to me. There are more important monkeys. We have two baboons now, and I mostly want NWM's plus a handful of smaller OWM's.

Everything else's popularity makes sense to me although I might rearrange a few species. They mostly fall into a few categories or some combination thereof: fantastic potential additions I would also love, big 'star' animals that are marketable, slightly boring but important regional picks, and unlikely but cool. Ducks are criminally underrated.

About the tree kangaroos, I think cuteness, coloration, conservation, and uniqueness are all parts of their charm. It would only be our 2nd arboreal marsupial. Other options include a possum or cuscus, but I think the tree kangaroo beats them in both visual appeal and conservation value. It also adds representation for a diverse island and tropical Australasia.
 
Timmy: Jimmy, have you finished the tree kangaroo?
Jimmy: No, boss. I'm about to add it's climbing behaviour.
Timmy: Give him the climbing behaviour of the koala.
Jimmy: But didn't the community hated that?
Timmy: No, they really didn't care that much.
Jimmy: Whatever you say boss.rolls his yes
 
Technically nothing is impossible.
They could also give us a final 20 animal + expansion with aquatics and birds and whatever.
Is that likly to? Not at all id give it a 0,00000001% chance.

The same goes for just more animal packs then we are used to. When we got the 5 year anniversary celebration pack and didnt even get the usual exhibit animal because we got like 50 new pieces, in what world do we get 12 animals in any pack when it isnt a simple case of swapping textures like the butterflies? The only context i see us getting more then 8 animals again is if we get more butterflies, but thats never what people who bring more animals up talk about.

Also guys, may i ask why 12?
4,5,7 and 8 are the usual numbers, 10, 14 and 16 would be us getting twice as much but why 12? Its such a random and arbitary number and again if its because of grasslands its because 5 of the animals were literally just texture differences from each other with no unique sounds, animations, model differences, etc, just another pair of wing textures slapped on the same basic butterfly model. Dont get me wrong this works great for the butterflies, but how can the same community that had a gripe for years with the malayan tapir being just another texture over the bairds tapir also go like yeah lets just get 5 different textures on the same model for birds, frogs, tamarins or whatever else gets suggested.

I am all for the idea of getting 5 different "cloned" exhibit animals there are plenty of animals that could work like butterflies being exact body clones like tree frogs Im always a fan of more exhibit animals since they are often the most diverse sections of a zoo and the area we have the least of.

Also my whole point was to point out it had been done, not to expect it but to say saying yes it has been done and that packs arent as set in stone as we believe.
 
Not sure, I just inferred they were waterfowl because of how much time they spend in the water just like the swan.
Wide sense of waterfowl seems to be "bird that swims", as opposed to Waders or terrestrial birds, which Pelicans certainly are, though I would think Penguins are bit extreme for that, but other diving birds like loons are included.

Pelicans are Core Water Birds, alongside storks, ibis, Penguins & Cormorants, so that's certainly valid terminology.

But the Kagu is more common, and recognizable, and in more known zoos.
It's not really more common, it's basically the same presence.

I will say it's got a bit more personality, in terms of unique animations they could do.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnET4b_UJ6Y
 
Birds that live in or around water are called waterbirds, waterfowl refers to a specific taxonomic group (Anseriformes)
I did say the Wide sense. Looking up definitions, one specifically mentions Grebes, Loons and Coots as potential example inclusions. Quite a few others equate it to general swimming waterbirds as well. It's not a monophylly, but it's rare that common terminology is always that specific.

Hunting is kind of the derivative of these things, so I guess it's just behaviour that matters if you're shooting at them.
 
I did say the Wide sense. Looking up definitions, one specifically mentions Grebes, Loons and Coots as potential example inclusions. Quite a few others equate it to general swimming waterbirds as well. It's not a monophylly, but it's rare that common terminology is always that specific.

Hunting is kind of the derivative of these things, so I guess it's just behaviour that matters if you're shooting at them.
Most definitions I see make sure to mention “especially ducks, geese and swans”. It definitely gets applied to other groups by laypeople (just like “fowl” itself is sometimes used basically as a synonym for bird, even though it more specifically refers to Galliformes and Anseriformes), but I think on an animal-centred forum like this it’s useful to use the more precise definition, especially when a broader term (waterbirds) is already available and widely in use. It gets confusing otherwise.
 
I wonder, is there any of the requested animals that you think is overrated and why?

For me it would be the Tree Kangaroo. Do not get me wrong, I totally think it should be in the game, I just do not see the appeal. I guess one reason is that I have never seen it in real life as there are none kept in my country.
I've been thinking this but too afraid to say anything 😂 I'm sure it's just a lack of familiarity with the animal. My priorities are animals I've seen in real life. That's not intentional, it's just how preferences and biases work. If anything it shows how important zoos actually are - they make us love the species we encounter more! I bet if I ever met a tree roo I'd fall in love... it just hasn't happened yet.
 
Back
Top Bottom