DLC 19 Speculation

Birds are sadly pretty much a lost cause, and modders are definetly what will save them in the end. Which isnt to bad imo as mod quality has become so good by now that its pretty much on level with frontier, and even surpassed it in some recent animals.
Yeah, like Palla's cat... when you see the mod vs the official you notice how much the missed the mark with the official version.
 
Birds are sadly pretty much a lost cause, and modders are definetly what will save them in the end. Which isnt to bad imo as mod quality has become so good by now that its pretty much on level with frontier, and even surpassed it in some recent animals.
Literally the only mod downside is the sounds, and maybe the janky movement from the rigs. Which is really a duck issue.
Yeah, like Palla's cat... when you see the mod vs the official you notice how much the missed the mark with the official version.
it is actually amazing how good the remaster is. Which also unfortunately sours Frontier for me a bit.
 
Yea I agree the sounds are still really ruining the immersion for me so far with Mods. They gotta figure that out
ehh... it depends. For animals like the lyre bird or the howler monkey yeah, totally... or animals that are based on other animals that have very iconic calls like the peafowl... those are indeed inmersion breaking. But for most ungulates, cats, dogs, small mammals, rodents, penguins, etc i don't think it matters that much.
 
Yea I agree the sounds are still really ruining the immersion for me so far with Mods. They gotta figure that out
The sound is was ruins the immersion for me aswell, tho in a different way. I really dislike how the animals in game constantly make noise. Like if are at a zoo you dont hear a never ending stream of roars, grunts and screams. Not to mention thats the constant animal noises and gibberish of the staff get real annyoing real quick imo.

Thats why im not bothered by wrong sounds, i play without it.
 
But for most ungulates, cats, dogs, small mammals, rodents, penguins, etc i don't think it matters that much.
It does. No two deer sound the same, for example. A musk deer with an elk's bugle would be horrible, just like how the OG lynx mod roared like a jaguar. Everyone touted it as revolutionary (at the time) but it was awful - it just looked really good. Penguins, too, all make very different sounds. Even in the game the king penguin, African penguin, and blue penguin sound completely different.

Anyway, I'm not saying this as an overt criticism of the modders. They can do some great things, but until they can figure out how to unlock that last door I'll pass on new species.

Like even remasters could be spectacular; imagine if modders could fix the donkey sounds or Tasmanian devil sounds.
 
To be fair, the vanilla animals haven't had a stellar track record either :p
Which is a bummer, but for the most part it's still better than what the modders can achieve.

Anyway, it's not a zero sum game. Modders make better looking animals than Frontier (for the most part), but Frontier makes more immersive animals. That's why I stick to the remasters; they take what's already there and improve it (though IMO some of them overstep - I was bummed when I realised that the timber wolf mod turns it into an American wolf - always wished there was an alternative that turned it into a Eurasian wolf instead).
 
Some...lots of mods look great. Some...not so much. For me, its more how they move or their behaviour that can stop them being effective. Like, there is a fantastic aye-aye mod, but its based on the ringtailed lemur so its really active and constantly jumping about, when it should be on stealth mode, finger at the ready.

I hear what people are saying about the sounds, and I get it. Sound is very immersion making...or breaking. But its not something that I'm ever really aware of as I play with sound off (or very quiet) and an audiobook on, most of the time. Or the tv. I didn't know about the donkey thing for ages until I read it here! Like @Marvinb said, there are too many noises going on in the game all the time and it gets annoying after a while.
 
Temperate Animal Pack:
Golden Snub Nosed Monkey [Headliner]
Elk
Reeve's Muntjac
North American River Otter
American Black Bear
Western Capercaillie
Eastern Wild Turkey
90 Native American Pieces
 
If you guys had to bet now, would we get atleast one bird in the next pack?

I think so, I hope it’s Latin America then we could potentially get Rhea and Spoonbill/Flamingo
I think one bird feels pretty likely. Between the highly requested one (secretary bird) and semi-aquatic options that would make people flip (pelican, duck) I'd say it's pretty likely. But my money is on the secretary bird...

If it's a Latin America pack then swap that out for the greater rhea. Wouldn't be my pick for the region but I do think it's the one that's most likely for that theme.

IMO a pelican feels more likely, if only because it's been popular for far longer and is less dubiously an "open air" bird. The spoonbill falls under the same awkward category as the ibis and secretarybird.

This website has a few members obsessed with ducks but beyond it they don't seem that popular.
Yeah, I think pelican or secretary bird are most likely. But I'm not ruling out a duck! Mostly because pre-swan it wasn't like anybody was clamoring for that species... But it was the star of the Eurasia pack for a lot of people. I could see ducks being something similar.
 
I think one bird feels pretty likely. Between the highly requested one (secretary bird) and semi-aquatic options that would make people flip (pelican, duck) I'd say it's pretty likely. But my money is on the secretary bird...

If it's a Latin America pack then swap that out for the greater rhea. Wouldn't be my pick for the region but I do think it's the one that's most likely for that theme.


Yeah, I think pelican or secretary bird are most likely. But I'm not ruling out a duck! Mostly because pre-swan it wasn't like anybody was clamoring for that species... But it was the star of the Eurasia pack for a lot of people. I could see ducks being something similar.
I'll be more than happy with any of those 😂
 
I really hope they step up again with the upcoming DLC, knowing that PZ is still their best selling game and the troubles PC2 has right now. Right now I mostly wait for sales to get DLC's, but if they start to include some high wants from the lists then I might get them right away again.
 
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