Yeah, they do not look like any kind of ride I have ever seen in zoo. They look unrealistic and weirdly futuristic.
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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I tried the boat and the gondola. The boat is really quite nice, and it's easy to make it look fine on a river map (I used one of the user made river maps a kind forum member shared some time ago.)
About the gondola, I think it's too huge. I built it in my North American zoo and the guests loved it but I'm afraid I'll need to demolish it as it ruins the overall look of the zoo.
Most of my zoos have no rides of any kind.
My problem is, when I don't build them the guests continue to complain about having to walk a lot. Which is a bit silly, wouldn't going to a zoo usually mean a full day walking in real life?
According to artstation Spooky was THE name for this pack. So ya.
Not very often since real zoos don't have rides that much, my San Diego zoo gondola and bus tour (safari ride) remains uncompleted to this day but the steam train has seen action a couple times before.
I did use the boat ride and safari ride multiple times when I started playing. But now I don't think they are worth the effort. They slow down the game and are annoying to build. There is a problem with water placement When you remove the water en want to add it again (or there used to be). When animals stop or fall asleep on the tracks the tour is completely jammed. I just use the train ride in my current zoo.
…. Monk
Which is funny since most of the pack's animals aren't anything I'd call scary
I have a jeep ride and am VERY happy with it - (It's essentially a safari ride through a recreation of Disney's The Lion King - Pride Rock for lions, a HUGE grassland exhibit for the herbivores - the Pridelands, Elephant Graveyard for hyenas, a mock gorge littered with wildebeest signs recreating the stampede, and finally a jungle with warthogs and meerkats who surprisingly can co-exist very well).
Anyway, I love it but GOOD GRIEF, you would think 20 years after Zoo Tycoon 2, there'd a fix or option to not have animals STAND ON THE TRACKS FOR ETERNITY AND CLOG UP THE LINE!!!
Anyway, I love it but GOOD GRIEF, you would think 20 years after Zoo Tycoon 2, there'd a fix or option to not have animals STAND ON THE TRACKS FOR ETERNITY AND CLOG UP THE LINE!!!
I can't wait the next DLC!
The Barnyard Animal Pack not the spring DLC, I was waiting for, but since so many people requested it, it had to relase sooner or later anyway.
Regardless, I'll even buy the Barnyard DLC, but I prefer the wild animals, so I hope the summer DLC will have a wild animal roaster.
The Barnyard Animal Pack not the spring DLC, I was waiting for, but since so many people requested it, it had to relase sooner or later anyway.
Regardless, I'll even buy the Barnyard DLC, but I prefer the wild animals, so I hope the summer DLC will have a wild animal roaster.
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Ha! I've been working on this massive boat ride all week. Lmk if you want any tips! One thing that's cool is the track can go directly through barriers so you don't have to mess around with the airlock.
Figuring out how the stations are set up is a bit of a pain but makes sense once you get the hang of it.
I have a very different view on all of these things as to why they happened how they did. And it's all very different than the bird situation that we're in. Most of it has to do with marketing, trying to get people something they want within reason, the meta wishlist dividing deamnd for certain things so much that it took forever for the actual demand to pop (new world primates), etc. Sloths were tried as habitat animals and were moving so slow they didn't eat and died. "Nocturnal" would have been a misnomer for a pack name because the game doesn't have night-time behaviors.
I think the pack format and the way they tend to want to try and diversify most rosters has a lot to do with it. Like, people can say what they will about the Tropical pack but 4/5 of the animals in that one were very highly requested. And it was relatively diverse in their habitat picks (primate, small carnivoran, pig, reptile). But on the different side of the same coin, Arid was stretching with its picks. Probably because people weren't clamoring for a "desert pack" so much as a few key species... And they were locked in for that pack type because, I dunno, the ideal scenery for a pack with those species would be what we already got for the Africa pack. So what do you do? It's a balancing act. And I honestly wish they had opened the door for smaller, more focused packs of different types at some point (e.g., animal-only packs with 3 habitat species; scenery packs with 75 pieces; that sort of thing).
And I do think when you look at the packs that have had an initial negative reaction from fans they're the ones that tend to skew too far in a single direction with animal types. Arid was ungulate-heavy. Twilight and Oceania both got heavily criticized for focusing on smaller animals (though the scenery helped those packs ultimately). Barnyard for having all domestics. The reaction to those packs tends to be more over-the-top because you're literally shutting certain people out completely. Which is a much riskier move for Frontier than playing it safe and just slotting in a bird species or two into whatever pack is coming next.
Imagine a primate pack though...Unlikely but just imagine is. And if it's the last pack. Miracle or nightmare?
Hamadryas Baboon
Aye Aye
Golden Snub Nosed Monkey
Barbary Monkey
Black Howler Monkey
Guianan Squirrel Monkey
Spider Monkey species (Don't care which one TBH)
Golden Lion Tamarin (or set of Tamarins) WTE
I know it would be very devisive, but would it also be well received?
honestly i think its pretty nice, but not someting i would want tbhhh
I think it would be on par with the Oceania pack in terms of popularity, the audience who is actively asking for monkeys like this forum will love the idea of this pack, but others who couldn't care less about monkeys will either buy it for the one monkey that appeals to them or just don't buy it. As a last pack there would need to be something more to it like some great arboreal scenery/habitat pieces to market it right similar to how Oceania went full out with the island theme and volcano pieces.
I think it would do well sales-wise but the general impression would be negative, I feel. The roster you put together would get certain people excited. But I just really think that as we draw toward the end any specific pack is just not going to be well-received by the general community.
But anything that specific cuts out a decent chunk of the player base. If you're a person (and they're out there, believe it or not) who doesn't think the game needs any more (insert animal type here) then you're going to be frustrated that they didn't put (insert other animal type here) into the game instead.
If we knew there were a cavalcade of packs coming? Then yeah, a roster like that would be super well received. But as a final (or potentially final) last pack? It would probably bum a lot of people out.
The key to the last pack being a hit will be providing as many people as possible with a little bit of what they want most. They won't be able to please everybody, and honestly they'd never be able to do that even if they tried but... If they put together a broad pack that hits out 3-4 of the top 10 meta wishlist animals along with a new world monkey species (or two), and another bird (or two), it would be hard for folks to complain about the pack as a whole.
Especially if they focus on the key animals of each "type" in the pack.
Anything that focuses too much on a specific region, biome, or animal type is going to be divisive. South America is maybe the one exception. But even then you'd have people raising their eyebrows.
Especially if they focus on the key animals of each "type" in the pack.
Anything that focuses too much on a specific region, biome, or animal type is going to be divisive. South America is maybe the one exception. But even then you'd have people raising their eyebrows.
I think South/Latin America Pack is coming in the Summer and then the 5th Anniversary they will do one final, large, community favorites pack to tie it all together in a little bow.
S/L/Central America Pack
1. Ocelot
2. Patagonian Mara
3. Coati
4. Golden Lion Tamarin
5. Black Howler Monkey
6. Greater Rhea
7. Spectacled Bear
8. I’ll take anything for an Exhibit animal
Community Favorite Mega Animal Pack
1. White Pelican
2. Secretary Bird
3. American Black Bear
4. Pacific Walrus
5. Blackbuck
6. Tree Kangaroo
7. Shoebill
8. Hamadryas Baboon
9. Mandarin Duck
10. Markhor
11. Bush Dog
12. Tamandua
13. Perentie
14. Budgies (walkthrough)
Anniversary Aninal
1. Macaws (4 species) (walkthrough)
S/L/Central America Pack
1. Ocelot
2. Patagonian Mara
3. Coati
4. Golden Lion Tamarin
5. Black Howler Monkey
6. Greater Rhea
7. Spectacled Bear
8. I’ll take anything for an Exhibit animal
Community Favorite Mega Animal Pack
1. White Pelican
2. Secretary Bird
3. American Black Bear
4. Pacific Walrus
5. Blackbuck
6. Tree Kangaroo
7. Shoebill
8. Hamadryas Baboon
9. Mandarin Duck
10. Markhor
11. Bush Dog
12. Tamandua
13. Perentie
14. Budgies (walkthrough)
Anniversary Aninal
1. Macaws (4 species) (walkthrough)
I really want monkeys (just read through my posts) but, TBH, I prefer more diversity In packs - not that I’d say no though (it’d be a great pack)) but I’d prefer ‘treetops’ (or whatever) swapping out 5 of these for coati, tree kangaroo a marten or giant squirrel and a bird in WT (ideally a macaw)… still three monkeys though: Grey Langur, howler, spider)
Simple answer no
The average person doenst care about primates and could only probably name a handful all of which we have already. This would be almost the polar opposite to barnyard which will do very well with the causal players this will only be good for the people who know their animals plus actually care about primates.
I’m mixed on the idea of a bird pack, as much as I want it I will agree I know not everyone will be keen on it. Granted, I’ve been wishing we got a bird pack since 2019 so maybe I should be selfish and hope we get it 
I understand there is always criticism for when a pack is more focused on one group, but I also stand by the idea that not every pack can make everyone happy. Even if Arid was more balanced, there would still be someone who complained. Even if barnyard had a duck and rabbit some certain community members would complain and complain very loudly at that. Even if twilight had less NA species some would still dislike it.
With barnyard animals being so heavily requested for awhile, I wouldn’t be surprised if Frontier is trying to do the “popular” picks in the final pack. Considering animals are planned and worked on for awhile I wouldn’t be surprised if birds or monkeys are coming with all this extra time.
I think best case scenario, at least for me, is some sort of treetops pack. I get the arboreal mammals I want, and the pack is rounded up by birds. Or maybe around the world, with a more heavy amount of birds than usual. Or if being a 100% selfish jerks I get my habitat bird pack and shoot maybe we get a WTE exhibit bird or two.
I understand there is always criticism for when a pack is more focused on one group, but I also stand by the idea that not every pack can make everyone happy. Even if Arid was more balanced, there would still be someone who complained. Even if barnyard had a duck and rabbit some certain community members would complain and complain very loudly at that. Even if twilight had less NA species some would still dislike it.
With barnyard animals being so heavily requested for awhile, I wouldn’t be surprised if Frontier is trying to do the “popular” picks in the final pack. Considering animals are planned and worked on for awhile I wouldn’t be surprised if birds or monkeys are coming with all this extra time.
I think best case scenario, at least for me, is some sort of treetops pack. I get the arboreal mammals I want, and the pack is rounded up by birds. Or maybe around the world, with a more heavy amount of birds than usual. Or if being a 100% selfish jerks I get my habitat bird pack and shoot maybe we get a WTE exhibit bird or two.