Yeah but those regions are still specific to the continents there is no name to connect the continents like Asia, Africa and Australia.
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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I just don't think they need to be connected. I don't think it's a good pack idea, whatever it's called
No, same actually. I'm really hoping the dictionary thing isn't real, and that if it is, it all comes along in separate packs after we get a good SA pack.
Australian zoos have high levels of natives because unsurprisingly getting animals onto an island is hard both literally and legally. Beyond that youll have a hard time finding anything from north america or europe in australia due to climate we mostly end up with south american monkeys and the african and asian abcs. Australia almost exclusively has the sun bear no proper wolves and no beavers either so much of what people consider abc zoo animals does not generally apply to australian zoos.
zoo tycoon was still thriving until planet zoo came onto the scene and revied a long stagnated game genre. I found zoo tycoon 2 10 years after its release date and it was still going strong
I love the Dall sheep. I almost never include arctic wolf in my zoos. I’d replace wolf with puffin in a heartbeat.Why is everyone getting rid of the dall's sheep instead of the Arctic wolf skin?
I'd argue it's still going. They have a ton of new mods on Nexus and there's an active modding community
Whatever the next pack is it’s already connected continents (Africa and Asia) - highlands is doubted because Hamadryas isn’t really a mountains animal and Asia pack Hamadryas isn’t considered an Asian animal more than it is African. Other than a collection pack this is the second most likely option.I just don't think they need to be connected. I don't think it's a good pack idea, whatever it's called
I imagine international tourism also plays a part in it - native wildlife is a huge tourism draw for Australia, so most zoos want to have a good selection of Australian animals on display. People don't really go to Australia to see lions or giraffes, they go to see kangaroos and koalas, and this combined with the fact that native animals are way easier to source given they don't have to deal with the strict importation laws naturally makes them extremely widespread in zoos. It's also why wildlife parks mostly/exclusively containing native animals are so common.
EDIT: It's worth mentioning that Australians generally also love their native wildlife - I mean, just look at me haha. Housing native animals also allows zoos to maintain captive populations of threatened species (which Australia has a lot of) and educate the public on local wildlife.
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I advocate for this in the current game, but I'm hoping that in a sequel there will be some other system in place. Something like, I don't know, an exhibit that is somewhat customisable. Or at least settings to differentiate between "game" behaviour and "realistic" behaviour; I don't care if my crocodiles spend 90% of their time sitting around doing nothing. It's better for my CPU and it's closer to real life.
IMO an "ABC" species is one that can be found in the majority of global zoos, which includes Australia and New Zealand. For example, giraffes, rhinos, and lions are all ABC species because if you go to a zoo in America, Europe, Australia, or even say Argentina you'll see these animals. A brown bear, as a random example, on the other hand, is not, because you can't find them everywhere.
The dictionary thing is lowkey one of the top like, three reasons I'm anxious to see the full DLC roster. Because it will likely be very telling about the future (or lack thereof). As of now? It looks to be "accurate" for better or for worse. But there's still room for it to be wrong... Plenty of room, TBH. Haha.
Yeah, I figured that was the case. The logistical challenges being my primary thought around the bigger critters while I was there. But like @Chuditch mentioned, I was kind of stunned at how focused the tourism was on animals. It makes logical sense and I kinda loved it but... It caught me by surprise!
I just don't think randomly saying it's going to be a pack with animals from Africa and Asia is going to be a thing. "Eurasia" is a relatively common term. But I've never heard anybody use the word "Afro-Asia" before this thread. And maybe I'm too sensitive but it
TBH, it's maybe my least favorite suggested theme in all of this. It's not a common term, would feel hamfisted, and would blatantly cut out a significant chunk of the planet at a time when the community is begging for geo-diversity.
That’s what I was saying earlier. Other than new world and old world there is no term that sounds good to combine some of the continents.
I agree. I don't really like most of those dictionary animals and hope that isn't what's remaining for the pack. The only ones that personally excite me from the dictionary are the Sifaka (b/c Zoboomafoo was my childhood and lemurs are adorable) and Civet (another carnivore please. Always welcome to me. Canids are preferred but I'll take any carnivore they send my way at this point.). I would be down for the Tree Kangaroo (because their adorable and unique looking), Dik Dik (one of the few ungulates I'd be ok with getting because I think tiny antelope are adorable), and possibly the Echidna (because they're the only other monotremes besides the platypus) but to a lesser degree than the Sifaka and Civet, which if they were included, would make me really like this pack.
Otherwise, if getting rid of the dik dik, echinda, or tree kangaroo meant that the Spectacled Bear or Ethiopian Wolf or Tanuki would get in if this wasn't just an African and Asian pack or just a Highlands pack, I would gladly give any one of those 3 up.
Also not really a fan of the 3 currently revealed animals, except for maybe the Pallas cat because unlike Barnyard, at least I know there's going to be at least one carnivore in this pack and it is kind of cute. Markhor is a hard-no for me because I have ungulate fatigue since other than Oceania, Frontier hasn't made a dlc pack that wasn't between 50-90% ungulates since Tropics. (And Oceanian I think was only the exception because there aren't really ungulates there.) As for the Baboons, I'm happy for the primate people, but primates aren't my thing except for lemurs and tiny monkeys because I find other larger primates creepy looking and too human-like. Likewise, I'd be happy for the bird people if we got the Secretary bird and it is a very unique-looking bird but I'm not into birds that much personally.
Otherwise, if getting rid of the dik dik, echinda, or tree kangaroo meant that the Spectacled Bear or Ethiopian Wolf or Tanuki would get in if this wasn't just an African and Asian pack or just a Highlands pack, I would gladly give any one of those 3 up.
Also not really a fan of the 3 currently revealed animals, except for maybe the Pallas cat because unlike Barnyard, at least I know there's going to be at least one carnivore in this pack and it is kind of cute. Markhor is a hard-no for me because I have ungulate fatigue since other than Oceania, Frontier hasn't made a dlc pack that wasn't between 50-90% ungulates since Tropics. (And Oceanian I think was only the exception because there aren't really ungulates there.) As for the Baboons, I'm happy for the primate people, but primates aren't my thing except for lemurs and tiny monkeys because I find other larger primates creepy looking and too human-like. Likewise, I'd be happy for the bird people if we got the Secretary bird and it is a very unique-looking bird but I'm not into birds that much personally.
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I dunno, looking at that map makes it clear some regions are part of multiple continents. Neotropics includes North and South America, Paleartic includes Africa, Europe, and Asia, so it's not a stretch at all
I meant Australasia. My phone autocorrected. Not that it matters because New Zealand is part of Australia
Eww... I'm 100% against putting anything in those stupid, static, limited option boxes. Hope they do things better next time, not dumber...
Ok I forgive you, I mean I do like free stuff
I mean, the reality is they can do whatever they want. Like, maybe the pack will be just animals from Africa and Asia (hopefully not) but they won't call it that. It'll probably be called something far more generic or have some other "link" between the animals we aren't thinking of.
Random thought here, but have you tried putting the PZ logo and the pack names over the key art image? Asking because I gave it a whirl and it's sort of striking how something like a "Celebration" or "Zookeeper" pack feels accurate when you look at the words over the image like we might see on Steam. Haha. But also? The same applies when you put "Highlands Animal Pack" as the label.
See, I think the dictionary bit is all out of whack right now because they deleted terms that represent 2/3 of the revealed animals (markhor and Hamadryas) but then there's no word for "Pallas" in there yet. Then they deleted dik-dik and sifaka... But secretary and Goodfellow are still in there. So it kinda means absolutely nothing at the moment because there's no logical way to make sense of it. If we get the pack and all of the deleted species wind up on the roster? Then it might mean something. But until then it's just too all over the place to count on.
That said, I believe "civet" is likely in there for the binturong. I've always assumed that was the case... Which is a bummer because, yeah, a civet would be great!
I hear you with the revealed animals. I'm a bit "softer" on them all because I'm into two of them and the other one makes sense for inclusion regardless of my own personal take. There's plenty I'd prefer other than them, though, and admittedly I don't want this to be an Asian pack because that would exclude the majority of my highest-rated 'wants' at the moment.
Yeah thats why I was specific said what most people consider abc animals. To alot of people bears are viewed as an abc animals but it is all a matter of perspective there are very few animals that are truly ubiquitous with zoos and we pretty much have all of them.