Looks amazing. Now I really want to make an Indian savannah habitat. I'm sure the blackbuck looks amazing. And we can even use the fallow deer as a similar enough substitute for the chital.
DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)
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Ungulates definitely aren't an unusual sight in Planet Zoo DLCs... But I have to say: Frontier always delivers when it comes to their hoofstock.
(I know, I know, there has been one notable incident but c'mon they fixed that and now it looks great)
Agree, but we also should remember that Frontier doesn't only cater to the zoo nerd base here on the Forum. There are a lot of players that don't have a ton of knowledge on all things animals, and for them, they see:
- Monkey that's weird looking but kinda cool(also note that small monkeys aren't as popular outside this Forum)
- Thompson's Gazelle, but Asia version
- Weird looking antelope
- A deer
- Cute raccoon-looking thing
The Honey Badger is really the only big name among that list for that player base. Rounding it out with an onager, a gibbon, golden pheasant, etc would fare well here on the Forum. But not as appealing for many other players. This DLC badly needs another recognizable name to sell to non-zoo nerds. I personally would have gone with Asiatic Lion, but Bornean Elephant fits that bill.
I honestly think it's that simple...they needed another popular, well known animal - and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a choice between the Lion and Elephant.
The tanuki is definitely well known to the general public its highly referenced in most westernised japanese media it is featured prominently many times by one of the biggest video game developers and has lots of memes surrounding its folk lore history. I would argue it is the most likely animal to be recognised by the average person if not by sight by name alone.
Want a popular asian animal that almost everyone knows then pheasants would of been a better choice because while yes most people know of elephants most people couldn't tell you the difference between the base game and new elephant. That being said I do see why it was picked because they needed something viewed as a zoo staple to ground the pack which the elephant did do but its mostly pointless otherwise.
I also fully agree on the monkey statement most people dont care or actively dont want monkeys.
They look good, but I got to be honest they still look as good as the Asian Elephant to me.
I would definitely be more excited about the new elephant if I knew that the base one would be scaled up.
Me still waiting on those darn base game tortoises to be fixed, and the bison, and the elephant. And the rheas wings.
How would everyone have felt if we had gotten the African forest elephant as our third elephant instead? (for the sake of argument assume it made thematic sense for this pack)
Personally I think I would have slightly preferred it, but still nowhere near enough to justify its inclusion.
Personally I think I would have slightly preferred it, but still nowhere near enough to justify its inclusion.
I just would prefer not to get another elephant at all
I would have hated this pack with all my heart.
At least the Bornean elephant works fairly well as a generic Asian, and it could be integrated in a herd of base game Asian Elephants to add some variety... The African Forest Elephant would have even less potential than this one as far as I'm concerned
The more I’ve read from people defending the elephant, the more convinced I am that at least half of it is contrarianism, and another chunk just plain old toxic positivity. I do not believe that the majority of these people are being serious about actually being happy about this thing, which was my initial good faith assumption.
While I agree I do think there is a subsection that aren’t animal nerds and see elephant and think, “oh cool I know that” and don’t care about the fact they already have them in game
It would have been better... at least the forest elephant is distinguishable from the bush elephant, being actually smaller and not just a pygmy in name only... still wouldn't be great though...
As much complaining as you do, I am surprised how highly you think of the elephant. Care to elaborate?
Shh, don't let my secret known that I slipped in Bornean elephant instead of golden pheasant in the files to mess with Frontier and they got confused and actually did the elephant instead...
Functionally it would be infinitely better as it represents a new climate combination african tropical which is more than can be said about the bornean elephant which would be identical to the indian in terms of gameplay mechanics.
Its also a species level inclusion so there is that.
I think it is entirely possible to admit that it was not something that I would pick, but at the same time, still be somewhat positive about it. These things do not exclude each other in my opinion.
Would I pick something else? Yeah. Does it still looks good and will I use them? Also yes.
For some of us, it is just not that deep, I guess. There are still plenty of animals that I wanted, I am not going to loose my mind over one pick that could have been something else.
Would I pick something else? Yeah. Does it still looks good and will I use them? Also yes.
For some of us, it is just not that deep, I guess. There are still plenty of animals that I wanted, I am not going to loose my mind over one pick that could have been something else.
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Nah. Still no. A third elephant is the last thing we needed. I mean, heck, I'd take new barnyard animals over a third elephant. Give me a second domestic chicken breed - Asia is full of them, and barnyards usually have more than one kind running about.
I think the galling thing about the elephant is that the community by-and-large has accepted that we're going to be getting basic copy-paste animals at this point, and even has regularly mentioned preferences for species and subspecies that fit this bill, and yet Frontier still managed to somehow fumble it. Like seriously - if the elephant had been the Sumatran tiger instead I would have wet my pants. That would have been a perfect pack.