DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)

My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

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The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
 
My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

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The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
Such a great pack we will never get
 
You sure on the secretary bird? It’s just a remodel on the crane. Same size and shape with just new head modeling
Cranes are slower and move more methodically. Secretary birds are far more limber and need very different animations from a crane. Especially ones where they're using their feet. Even as simple as running a very different from crane movement, it's almost like they go into a torpedo shape
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Their necks are also notably shorter than that of a crane. Not to mention proportionately massive legs.
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My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

View attachment 425562

The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
Well looking at this I know at least half of these guys are in my top 25 right now so yeah this works

no tomistoma though add that as a second anniversary animal alongside the abb since this is the last update (copium)
 
My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

View attachment 425562

The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
without a dounbt, this would be my favorite pack. Coati, Blackbuck, secretary bird, pelican, a duck and even more new world monkeys? perfection.
 
My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

View attachment 425562

The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
Gimme this! I want this! Where can I get this? There is just the turtle that I don't care about but the reste is fire.
 
My work laptop is broken so I did this.

A 12-animal finale pack just for us superfans. I think there is something for everyone here? With the ABB as a bonus anniversary animal. This is a kickass pack if I do say so myself and even if these are not all my personal favourites.

View attachment 425562

The hare is in last position because that last spot could be highly debated, but with zero lagomorphs in the game I think there is a good argument for having it, even if it's not at the top of many wishlists.

Think of the mods we could get with the hare, the duck, the turtle and the pelican in the game!
Swap the hare for a Patagonian mara (the rodent that convergently evolved hare-like features and is both high on the wishlist and extremely common in zoos).
 
I think the only reasonable theme left where we could get coati and mara would be Shrublands. Honestly I'd be pretty down to see a return to biome packs, temperate and coastal could still work well too.

I think another Asian pack be that South Asia or East Asia could be pretty good and there's always going to be a ton of options for a Safari Pack too.
 
Personally hoping for a rainforest animal pack for DLC 20:
1. Black Headed Spider Monkey
2. Mantled Guereza
3. East Javan Langur
4. South American Coati
5. White Faced Whistling Duck
6. Saddle Billed Stork
7. Victoria Crowned Pigeon

Is a pack with this theme likely? No. Would it end up with a roster like this? If recent packs are anything to go off than absolutely not. But I would be overjoyed if we got this pack
 
New Rig: White-nosed Coati
Semi Clone: Aardwolf
Clone: Nile Crocodile + Grey-crowned Crane + Serval + Perentie + Black Swan
Scrublands Animal Pack
I'm assuming Echidna not allowed as the New Rig?

I think the only reasonable theme left where we could get coati and mara would be Shrublands. Honestly I'd be pretty down to see a return to biome packs, temperate and coastal could still work well too.

I think another Asian pack be that South Asia or East Asia could be pretty good and there's always going to be a ton of options for a Safari Pack too.
I'd love Shrublands and Safari Animal Packs
Shrublands Animal Pack
  1. White-nosed Coati
  2. Patagonian Mara
  3. Nile Crocodile
  4. Grey-crowned Crane
  5. Serval
  6. Perentie
  7. Black Swan
Safari Animal Pack
  1. Secretary Bird
  2. Aardwolf
  3. Blackbuck
  4. Honey Badger
  5. Helmeted Guineafowl
  6. Eland
  7. Aoudad
Also Avian Pack
  1. Demoiselle Crane
  2. Golden Pheasant
  3. Wild Turkey
  4. Roseate Spoonbill
  5. Mallard Duck
  6. Muscovy Duck
  7. Nene
 
Here's a conversation topic I think needs to be addressed:

So every continent got a pack from 2020-2021 and starting from 2022 we got biome packs and a few miscellaneous ones.

Now since 2023 we have gotten a few continent "revisit" packs.
Australia > Oceania
Europe/Asia > Eurasia
North/South America > Americas

However there is one pack that is a bit of an outlier, Arid. This pack obviously is the one connecting to the desert biome but it also infamously has a completely African roster and many people do see it as "Africa 2". The question is if Frontier sees it this way and does Arid's existence make a revisit to Africa (like a safari pack, which lets face it would probably be exclusively African, sorry blackbuck...) unlikely?

Honestly I am not sure, I think this could be a pretty strong theme but there was quite a backlash to Arid on release.
 
Well, now that we have DLC 19 coming...here's my thoughts for what is almost certainly going to be the final pack (but I've also been saying that for two years so who knows). Theme is simply around the world or global in nature - in other words, a collection of animals. There's several scenarios I'll lay out here from my most ideal to least. Lower effort animals marked with a * as there will certainly be a mix in here.

All of these could have an urban building/set coming as the anniversary "gift" or included with the pack, but for a higher cost. I just didnt' want to reiterate that every single time.

nearly double sized finale pack of 12 animals, no building theme. Maybe an urban/city building set for the final anniversary? cost is bumped up here, or if a building set is included it could be twice the total cost.
American Black Bear*
Coatimundi species
Black Howler Monkey
Squirrel Monkey*
Eurasian Otter*
Tree Kangaroo species
Blackbuck*
Mandarin Duck
Secretary Bird
Shoebill
Masai Giraffe* OR Nile Crocodile*
Honey Badger

7+1 set dream set option (also just 7 animal set with building pieces and no exhibit animal):
American Black Bear*
Coatimundi
Black Howler Monkey
Eurasian Otter*
Mandarin Duck
Tree Kangaroo
Secretary bird
King Cobra (exhibit)

7+1 set - realistic set option ((also just 7 animal set with building pieces and no exhibit animal)
American Black Bear*
Squirrel Monkey*
Eurasian Otter*
Blackbuck*
Masai Giraffe* or Nile Crocodile*
2 of 3 out of Secretary Bird, Coatimundi, Tree Kangaroo - I don't expect we would get all 3 of them, but 2 seems somewhat possible if the other 5 spots are all lower effort? Then again look at DLC 19.
King Cobra (Exhibit)

7 + abbreviated scenery and no exhibit- nightmare option
2nd Capuchin Monkey species*
American Black Bear (I do think we will get these if there's a 20th pack, I really do.)*
Masai Giraffe*
Nile Crocodile*
Grey Kangaroo*
Iberian Lynx*
Celebes Crested Macaque*
Many of the above are not bad additions on their own, but all mixed in together has the final pack is a big hunkin' serving of absolutely nothing.
 
What is everyones most wanted habitat animal for each of these groups now?

Carnivorans - South American Coati
Ungulates - Reeves' Muntjac
Primates - Guianan Squirrel Monkey
Other Mammals - Rock Hyrax
Birds - White Stork
Reptiles - Argentine Black-and-White Tegu
I got carried away and wrote 5 for each.
Carnivorans - American Black Bear, South American Coati, Serval, Sea Otter, Honey Badger
Ungulates - Reeves' Muntjac, Greater Kudu, White-Tailed Deer, Blackbuck, Muskox
Primates - Golden Lion Tamarin, Spider Monkey, Guereza, Cotton Top Tamarin, Squirrel Monkey
Other Mammals - Tree Kangaroo, Tamandua, Brushtail Possum, Mara, Echidna
Birds - Grey Crowned Crane, Mandarin Duck, Scarlet Ibis, Mallard Duck, White Faced Whistling Duck
Reptiles - Freshwater Habitat Turtle, Perentie, Chameleon, Nile Crocodile, Emerald Tree Boa
 
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