DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)

I don't know if they're pure, but the Monterey Zoo in Salinas CA has 3 African Leopards. One is Melanistic
AFAIK, melanism is a telltale sign of hybrids. African leopards can be black, but from what I know it's more common in Asian subspecies and populations (that live in more tropical environments where a darker colour wouldn't make them too visible anyway)
 
Can I say rhinoceros is my favorite animal?😂
If the three rhinoceroses in the game are wasting space, then are all the antelopes and deer in the game also wasting space?
Are Australian wild dogs and wolves, coyotes and Arctic wolves also a waste of space?
I just want to say that you can't always get everything you want
(As someone who used to hate farm animals, I now accept all the new animals in Pz with equanimity😉
 
Can I say rhinoceros is my favorite animal?😂
If the three rhinoceroses in the game are wasting space, then are all the antelopes and deer in the game also wasting space?
Are Australian wild dogs and wolves, coyotes and Arctic wolves also a waste of space?
I'd argue that a few canines could have been skipped, namely the Arctic Wolf, Coyote and Dhole (they have their fans for sure, but they feel a bit like filler animals); as for the antelopes, it's fairly common for zoos to have a lot of them so they don't feel like they're "wasting space" to me... Although some feel redundant (two wildebeest, two oryx, Thompson's Gazelle or Springbok...)
 
Hey, been a while.

Great to see that the DLCs seem to be picking up in frequency again. I wasn't expecting to see anything again until September.

Honey Badger and another macaque are great additions. I see the elephant silhouette but I don't think this is another Asian elephant that people are assuming it is and I agree it doesn't make sense as we already have those. Instead I think that this is the African Forest Elephant,

Yes, the two most prominent animals in the artwork are the Honey Badger and Lion-tailed Macaque, which are both found in India, as are elephants but with the Pallas cat and baboon, and markhor the highlands pack turned out to be a zookeeper pack, this could be the same scenario. Even with artwork teasers the forum tends to get carried away down the wrong tangent so this is probably not an Indian Pack. :)

I think this might be a generic Forest animal pack (or an Explorers animal pack with base / field camp scenery)
  • vibes I get from 'scenery' in the artwork and African forest elephant.= forest
  • Lion tailed macaque are found in the Western Ghats = forest
  • Honey badgers whilst infamous for giving lions the middle finger, are quite versatile in habitats living in deserts, mountainous regions and forests.

so those plus four more habitat animals from a (still) broad selection i.e. guar, blackbuck, tree porcupines, tamandua, tapir, forest buffalo, coati, monkeys, wildcats, aye-aye, agouti, tree kangaroos, giant squirrels etc.
 
I was thinking that this is the first pack i would actually be happy if it turns out to be 80 % ungulates. So many good options, what ever the theme and is a cathegory that Asia is lacking: blackbuck (must), nilgai, gaur, chital, pere David deer, Muntjac, anoa, banteng, mouse deer, yak, sumatran rhino, etc.

I still want my 1 or 2 birds though, Frontier. Plenty of good options in that cathegory as well: painted stork, pheasants, ducks, pelicans, damoiselle crane, etc.
 
So you think rhinoceros has no fans on the forum:cry:
I'm one of those supporters. Like maybe not a fan as is not My most wanted animals, but i love sumatran rhinos irl, i think it is important to talk about their conservation status and the game is a good way to expose the issue to a general audiences and they are arguably the most visually distinct, primal and interesting of the rhinos species. Is it absolutly necessary? Not really, but it Beats an elephant reskin for a long mile.
 
Honey Badger and another macaque are great additions. I see the elephant silhouette but I don't think this is another Asian elephant that people are assuming it is and I agree it doesn't make sense as we already have those. Instead I think that this is the African Forest Elephant,
The shape of the animal is indicative of the Asian Elephant instead of either African species. If you look at pictures of Asian Elephants and African Forest Elephants, you'll see they're differently shaped and the ones in the screenshot are definitely the Asian species.
 
So you think rhinoceros has no fans on the forum:cry:
Rhinos do have their fans, but I'll never be able to understand their reasoning.
With canines at least, most of the ones we have do not overlap in range and/or have some differences in the way you build for them. Even wolf and coyote, which are found in the same area, have different requirements in terms of vegetation, space, and you can really play around with different themes and decorations...
With rhinos, particularly the two African ones, the differences (IN THE WAY YOU BUILD HABITATS) are way less evident. At the end of the day you're still going to end up with the same big empty field. The Indian Rhino has a water requirement, which adds an extra element to the enclosure and makes it a bit more interesting to build for, but white and black rhino? It's way harder to design unique enclosures for each.
A Sumatran rhino would barely add anything in my opinion: it would perhaps need more foliage and have Tropical as its main biome, but really that's all stuff you can already incorporate into an Indian rhino exhibit.
 
I'm one of those supporters. Like maybe not a fan as is not My most wanted animals, but i love sumatran rhinos irl, i think it is important to talk about their conservation status and the game is a good way to expose the issue to a general audiences and they are arguably the most visually distinct, primal and interesting of the rhinos species. Is it absolutly necessary? Not really, but it Beats an elephant reskin for a long mile.
I completely agree with your point of view, and I believe that PZ is currently trying to use the clone animals in DLC to achieve a reset and replace the poorly modeled animals in the original version
 
Can Sumatran rhinos swim?
I know the African species can't and the Javan and Indian can
In terms of gaming, the Sumatran rhinoceros is the smallest animal among all rhinoceroses, at most slightly larger than wild boars, and its personality is very sensitive and timid, so it should require a large amount of tropical vegetation for cover and easily feel the pressure of tourists. And it also needs enough mud and water sources to sustain its life. At the same time, its call is completely different from all rhinoceroses, and its call is similar to a whistle and diverse. So it is also known as the singing rhinoceros.

These features can be said to be the most unique rhinoceros, fully in line with the example you mentioned(Of course, the prerequisite is that it will appear in this DLC)
 
In terms of gaming, the Sumatran rhinoceros is the smallest animal among all rhinoceroses, at most slightly larger than wild boars, and its personality is very sensitive and timid, so it should require a large amount of tropical vegetation for cover and easily feel the pressure of tourists. And it also needs enough mud and water sources to sustain its life. At the same time, its call is completely different from all rhinoceroses, and its call is similar to a whistle and diverse. So it is also known as the singing rhinoceros.

These features can be said to be the most unique rhinoceros, fully in line with the example you mentioned(Of course, the prerequisite is that it will appear in this DLC)
Honestly, if handled properly it could be an interesting animal... From the way you describe it, it reminded me a bit of the tapir and the pygmy hippo in terms of requirements (large forest mammal that heavily relies on plant coverage and water for its survival), and it would make it a unique challenge to build for.

Ok so... Maybe I just needed someone to explain why it would be cool to have. I don't personally care all that much for taxonomic diversity, I care about how interesting it is from a building standpoint. And this does actually sound like something that would be cool to design habitats for.
The lack of captive presence remains a huge drawback but I guess it wouldn't be the worst choice for a new animal.
But if we get both rhino AND elephant, I won't be so kind.
 
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