Yes, ever since Braben spoke about it as a feature years ago I've been looking forward to it
Do you want to want to see ship interiors and be able to walk aroun our ship
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Not interested in ships interiors at all.
I really like how you presented the potential and gameplay features that interiors can bring. And it's not even that out of this world to imagine doing.
I'm a relatively firm "I don't care" at this point, mostly due to the exhausting experience of watching people throw temper tantrums about being told "not right now". The most important part of the interior of every ship in the game is the cockpit, and we've got that. I think the most "ship interior" I want in order to satisfy my IMMERSHUN is getting out of my chair, walking to the door at the back of the cockpit, and disembarking onto a lift that takes me down the ramp.
If they do add interiors at some point, I give it less than 24 hours before everyone is wailing and gnashing their teeth about it not living up to the fiction in their heads.
If they do add interiors at some point, I give it less than 24 hours before everyone is wailing and gnashing their teeth about it not living up to the fiction in their heads.
Should the Clipper and T7 be Mediums?
YES
Simple, NO
Too much other stuff I would want before, like Full VR and more landable planets.
Too much other stuff I would want before, like Full VR and more landable planets.
or like running through the dock, or waiting in the elevator or walking through the concourse....to get to a mission console, that you already have in your ship (except not with foot stuffs) and with very little variety of stations other than which tin of paint they could buy at the time (is there 4 variants, excluding engineers?), but that's ok. That makes a tonne of sense, whereas actually having your own ship interior, the thing you fly pretty much everywhere and spend more time in that anything else (mostly) does not. Hmmmmm.
Lets just do-away with supercruise, boring... flying.. boring.. opening menus..boring... hyperspace jumps.. boring.. lets just I dunno, press X to win or Y to earn credits.
No, I'm not serious that these activities are boring, fwiw. Ship interiors could house a lot of activities, things to see and do.. or not, you could always "disembark" magically like we do now, too. Use your menus for everything in your seat.. or use the interior if desired. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
Also, we can telepresence in ED... so ship being attacked.. boom, back in ya seat!
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I confess that switching from 2D to VR went a long way to satisfy my desire for space legs, since I can use my literally IRL legs to walk around the cockpit / bridge. And even this leaves me wishing the various panels and displays had real information instead of fake screen placeholders.
Ironic that Odyssey actually takes away from this "IRL legs" experience by adding in-game legs.
/sigh....
Frontier said: NO. They don't care if you want them or if I want them.
Simple.. as... that.
Besides, I don't think they could do them even if they wanted to. Not for technical reasons however. The time it would take for them to sort it all out would be we'd likely end up with a 3 or 4 year content drought. The shareholders would never allow it. That gang seems to be about quick returns, not long term investments.
That's the most likely reason this is all as it is. Get used to it, as it seems here to stay.
Frontier said: NO. They don't care if you want them or if I want them.
Simple.. as... that.
Besides, I don't think they could do them even if they wanted to. Not for technical reasons however. The time it would take for them to sort it all out would be we'd likely end up with a 3 or 4 year content drought. The shareholders would never allow it. That gang seems to be about quick returns, not long term investments.
That's the most likely reason this is all as it is. Get used to it, as it seems here to stay.
somewhat off topic: I'm curious if in Starfield we will be able to move inside the ship / ships, if so i'm sure there will be some really interesting discussions on this forum, especially because more than likely until then we will not see the inside of the ships in the Elite 
somewhat off topic: I'm curious if in Starfield we will be able to move inside the ship / ships, if so i'm sure there will be some really interesting discussions on this forum, especially because more than likely until then we will not see the inside of the ships in the Elite
It will add to the pressure for interiors that's for sure. But would it be enough to push them into it....
I fear the trouble is, if that happens, the execs and marketing will go "screw it, add them! you got 2 years." and we will end up with another half broken mess because it will be forced on the devs as a last minute thing, expecting it "overnight". When, if they were to start work on it now, they'd be ready when external market pressure kicks in and puts a fire under execs rears. But they won't do that, and you know what will happen next.
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To be fair, I think a good reason for some of the community to be resistant to interiors is because when FDev ever changes anything, they break a bunch of other stuff. Something that big would be a massive change that would shatter a lot of other systems. I think that's the fear underlining much of the anti-interior sentiment. It alone is a valid enough worry. The rest from the Frontier team is just transparent excuses.
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Um...fix the damn game first to a decently playable state and deliver on what you HAVE promised for Odyssey. Only then will I care about ship interiors. Your game is uninstalled, OFF my computer until further notice. Adding ship interiors to an already broken pile of dog feces isn't going to magically make me want to come back to it. 
Horses for courses because what you describe here sounds exactly like a game I would not want to play or ever buy.
Do I want ship interior? Hell yes, I want it. I want a much more included experience from Odyssey. I want an airlock in every base to go outside directly by foot, without flying out with my ship. I want to walk around in cockpit, even if it is just fun a couple times. I want to EVA out and scavange shipwrecks. Yes, that'll be cool.
I'm still flabbergasted that anyone is putting any faith whatsoever in Bethesda.somewhat off topic: I'm curious if in Starfield we will be able to move inside the ship / ships, if so i'm sure there will be some really interesting discussions on this forum, especially because more than likely until then we will not see the inside of the ships in the Elite
And (without seeing any of Starfield's trailers), I'm gonna guess that it'd go the other way with that game: The ship (singular, probably) has a fully formed interior you can explore, but you can't fly it and nothing can be customized. Glorified fast travel, a la Borderlands 3.
... Wait, why didn't I think of this earlier!
Guys, go play Borderlands 3. All the ship interior you can choke down. You'll love it.
Sorry...what? I dont think you understand this from a development point of view.
Wrecks in space or ship interiors requires artists to create the assets, the models the textures, ect. Having an interior space attached to a ship isn't necessarily a performance hit from a coding perspective: There are all kinds of ways to do that, one of the simplest is to have ship interiors loaded into some "other" space that you enter and exit through doorways. Thus the ship interiors are "stationary" in the world instance. Several games with vehicle interiors do this.
Meanwhile, whatever the implementation, station interiors ALREADY do this. When you're sitting in your docking bay in the station? You're attached to the station. The station is moving through world space, both rotating and orbiting. Ditto for the station concourses. So basically, the tech to do this is already coded into the game.
Bethesda made ONE BAD GAME. ONE. And has produced awesome games for decades. I think Bethesda deserves some faith.