ED and the Oculus Rift Developers Kit 2 (DK2) Discussion Thread

Viajero

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Is there any way to have a couple pre made custom settings for graphics so I can switch back and forth between them in case I need to play standard 2D aswell (i.e. for recording videos etc).

Having changed all my graphics settings for DK2 is making it very cumbersome to go back to play 2D (and then back again to DK2) when I need it sometimes...
 

Tony Spaniels

Tony Spaniels
Something while you wait for Beta 3 to drop

Great news for all iRacing fans in here, and I know you are in here as I see Elite Dangerous fans in iRacing forums all the time...iRacing will be DK2 enabled next week!!

http://www.theriftarcade.com/iracing-dk2-support-coming-soon/

From one of their devs...

"I don’t have time to read this entire thread, but the DK2 support in iRacing is in beta testing right now, working really well, and will be in the next release. It seems to work best when configured in extended desktop mode. The UI rendering has been redone this time to fix it in 3D space, it’s really cool. The resolution is much improved in the DK2 – and the experience is really intense."

Its due Oct 21st!....and then a week later Beta 3 :D Ive worked both days this weekend and am going to take 'em as TOIL and boo those days off....or maybe I should wait for thursday for Beta 3, after they've brought out a few patches...:)
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
RaistlinUK said:
First weekend with my new tower and Rift and I keep getting an error, sometimes after 5 mins sometimes after 15,no fixed time. Just keep getting an error crashing the game saying an exceptional error in the render stream. Then if I check the task bar it says that the display driver crashed and has recovered. Help.
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Are you over clocking? My display driver crashes if I push my GPU oc too much
 

RaistlinUK

R
Half Giant said:
Which video card and driver version? OS?

Is it a custom built PC or an off the shelf one?

Have you tried playing the game on the monitor for an hour or more to see if it only crashes with the Rift?

If it is specific to the Rift I'd add the firmware and SDK version.
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Custom built by Overclockers. Zodiac geforce 980 extreme edition.
Windows 8.1 nvidia drivers 344. Elite just crashes, comes up with a Kernal error 32
Not just rift its monitor as well.

Reinstalling nvidia drivers now. What else do I need to reinstall

Edit:- New geforce drivers still does it, rift connected or not
 
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KING5TON

KING5TON
RaistlinUK said:
Custom built by Overclockers. Zodiac geforce 980 extreme edition.
Windows 8.1 nvidia drivers 344.16. Everything crashes it but ED recovers, most other things just freeze the tower.
Not just rift its monitor as well.

Reinstalling nvidia drivers now. What else do I need to reinstall

Edit:- New geforce drivers still does it, rift connected or not
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Try lowering the clock speed of your GPU.
If it still does it after you've lowered the clock speed considerably then try lowering the memory speed.
If you lower them both considerably and you still get it then you know it's not related to the GPU factory overclock being too high for the actual chip. If it does fix it you'll have to tinker with the clock speeds to get the best you can out of it without if crashing the driver.

If that doesn't work try removing the RAM and putting it back in, might not be seated properly. If you've got 2 sticks then try removing one, trying it and then swapping them over, could be related to dodgy memory.

Other things to try is downloading HWinfo64 and monitoring stuff, make sure your CPU temp doesn't get too high etc..
 

RaistlinUK

R
KING5TON said:
Try lowering the clock speed of your GPU.
If it still does it after you've lowered the clock speed considerably then try lowering the memory speed.
If you lower them both considerably and you still get it then you know it's not related to the GPU factory overclock being too high for the actual chip. If it does fix it you'll have to tinker with the clock speeds to get the best you can out of it without if crashing the driver.

If that doesn't work try removing the RAM and putting it back in, might not be seated properly. If you've got 2 sticks then try removing one, trying it and then swapping them over, could be related to dodgy memory.

Other things to try is downloading HWinfo64 and monitoring stuff, make sure your CPU temp doesn't get too high etc..
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Since reinstalling geforce drivers. Windows Kernal mode driver stopped working is the error.
Edit
I have prime95ed the processer :the temp holds at 68c.
Memtest86ed the ram. No problems at all
Furmarked the graphics opengl. No problem temp 60c
Heaven benchmarked the graphics. No problems temp 60c
Have Furmarked the graphics with no problems
 
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bmad

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Tony Spaniels said:
Great news for all iRacing fans in here, and I know you are in here as I see Elite Dangerous fans in iRacing forums all the time...iRacing will be DK2 enabled next week!!

http://www.theriftarcade.com/iracing-dk2-support-coming-soon/

From one of their devs...

"I don’t have time to read this entire thread, but the DK2 support in iRacing is in beta testing right now, working really well, and will be in the next release. It seems to work best when configured in extended desktop mode. The UI rendering has been redone this time to fix it in 3D space, it’s really cool. The resolution is much improved in the DK2 – and the experience is really intense."

Its due Oct 21st!....and then a week later Beta 3 :D Ive worked both days this weekend and am going to take 'em as TOIL and boo those days off....or maybe I should wait for thursday for Beta 3, after they've brought out a few patches...:)
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wow, thanks for the info. ED an iRacing are the only games I play. Just need a DK2 now! Ordered on 5/9 so shouldn't be too much longer. Maybe!
 

NoiseCrime

NoiseCrime
Viajero said:
Is there any way to have a couple pre made custom settings for graphics so I can switch back and forth between them in case I need to play standard 2D aswell (i.e. for recording videos etc).

Having changed all my graphics settings for DK2 is making it very cumbersome to go back to play 2D (and then back again to DK2) when I need it sometimes...
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What I've done is create a shortcut on the desktop to
C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options

Inside that folder you'll find most of the important custom config files, split into various sub-folders. I then just select them all and zip em (actually use winrar), then rename the zip to Options_Desktop_<date>. Then I set up the options in game for the Rift and zip those folders up as 'Options_Oculus_<date>.

This means at any time I can unzip the whole lot or open the zip up and unzip a specific config/binding folder, e.g. graphics and overwrite the real ones.

I also made a back up of the zips elsewhere in case something happens to the originals.
 

Nikonthenet

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Woop, not long now! :D

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Hi everybody! I'm quitting lurker mode now, been following this thread for well over 100 pages.

I'm lucky enough to have been a Rift DK2 owner since the first batch shipped and I've had a lot of fun with ED already. Mostly in Beta 1, as ever since Beta 2 hit I just cannot seem to get it working well enough to spend any serious amount of time in game. So sad...

Somewhere along the line something broke in ED for me. I couldn't maintain 75fps in Beta 1 either, but it wasn't really bad, it was still playable. I could live with the slight delay in headtracking and judder it caused. But in Beta 2 I get horrible graphical artefacts whenever the framerate drops below 75fps. The judder causes a sort of double-image or ghosting problem that is unbearable to me.

It shows worst on the holographic UI elements with their bright glowing outlines. e.g. when I have a planet targeted the holo-image of it turns into two images when I turn my head left to right, one lagging behind the other. The problem doesn't show up in screenshots, so I did a mockup in Photoshop:
jG3UO7r.jpg


I have tried switching GPUs, reinstalling drivers, tweaking all available graphical settings (I just cannot stay above 75fps in all situations, not even close - even on lowest settings) and all combinations of monitor setups (even Rift as only monitor) and freshly restarted service/display mode switching tricks I have learned while playing well over 200 different Rift demos over the past 3 months. ED is currently the only game with such a huge problem for me, e.g. I can play Alien Isolation just fine.

I guess it is related somehow to broken timewarp and/or low-persistance. Might have to upgrade my hardware (on a i5 with a GTX 660Ti right now, which isn't high end but decent enough) and hope for SDK updates and Beta 3 at this point.
 

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Yay!
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Mark D

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the_wretched said:
..... I just cannot stay above 75fps in all situations, not even close - even on lowest settings ..... I guess it is related somehow to broken timewarp and/or low-persistance. Might have to upgrade my hardware (on a i5 with a GTX 660Ti right now, which isn't high end but decent enough) and hope for SDK updates and Beta 3 at this point.
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I have a GTX 770 and the only way I can get 75fps sat in a hangar is Graphics quality preset = low and Oculus image quality = medium (slider half way down). My head says wait for CV1 my heart says GTX 970 :eek:
 

Georgio

Georgio
the_wretched said:
Hi everybody! I'm quitting lurker mode now, been following this thread for well over 100 pages.

I'm lucky enough to have been a Rift DK2 owner since the first batch shipped and I've had a lot of fun with ED already. Mostly in Beta 1, as ever since Beta 2 hit I just cannot seem to get it working well enough to spend any serious amount of time in game. So sad...

Somewhere along the line something broke in ED for me. I couldn't maintain 75fps in Beta 1 either, but it wasn't really bad, it was still playable. I could live with the slight delay in headtracking and judder it caused. But in Beta 2 I get horrible graphical artefacts whenever the framerate drops below 75fps. The judder causes a sort of double-image or ghosting problem that is unbearable to me.

It shows worst on the holographic UI elements with their bright glowing outlines. e.g. when I have a planet targeted the holo-image of it turns into two images when I turn my head left to right, one lagging behind the other. The problem doesn't show up in screenshots, so I did a mockup in Photoshop:
jG3UO7r.jpg


I have tried switching GPUs, reinstalling drivers, tweaking all available graphical settings (I just cannot stay above 75fps in all situations, not even close - even on lowest settings) and all combinations of monitor setups (even Rift as only monitor) and freshly restarted service/display mode switching tricks I have learned while playing well over 200 different Rift demos over the past 3 months. ED is currently the only game with such a huge problem for me, e.g. I can play Alien Isolation just fine.

I guess it is related somehow to broken timewarp and/or low-persistance. Might have to upgrade my hardware (on a i5 with a GTX 660Ti right now, which isn't high end but decent enough) and hope for SDK updates and Beta 3 at this point.
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Your GPU is seriously letting you down; you have two choices, either pull the trigger on a GTX970/980 or simply go 2D with ED for now.
 

the_wretched

T
Georgio said:
Your GPU is seriously letting you down; you have two choices, either pull the trigger on a GTX970/980 or simply go 2D with ED for now.
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Heh, I have several tabs open with GPU reviews and price comparisons, don't believe I am not willing to do that. :)

What I don't get is why the judder became so unacceptable along the way. It didn't use to be this bad, at least not in Beta 1. I have other demos and games where my GPU can't hold a rock-solid 75fps, but none show this strange graphical glitch. I can play Alient Isolation just fine at ~53fps, while ED is unbearable at 65-75fps?

How is it for you? If you turn up all the eyecandy and judder hits, does it also produce a similarly effed up image, or is it just slightly uncomfortable?
 

Tomas

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