ED Steamcharts "4,000" active players. Pathetic

[Viajero]

It has arrive! Spring is here and along with it the classic Steam chart says ED is dead!

So predictable.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/337040-Just-for-Fun-Elite-Dangerous-is-dead!

Didnt you know, ED has been proclaimed as dying since it released its first playable content in 2013.

4 years on, any time now.

PS: Latest estimates put Steam at only around 1/3 to 1/2 of total player base (FDEV launcher, Xbone, and now PS4... also Oculus store)

 

[Jaiotu]

And logially it doesn't make a difference in telling us who plays ed for how long and how often and in fact does nothing of the sort to tell us who plays lots of games and who doesn't considering Origin, UPlay, GOG, Greem Man Gaming I mean you simply don't know what you're talking about.

The above might seem logical to you but it doesn't follow logic at all. It's all a massive assertion on your part but I doubt me telling you that is going to turn on a light bulb anywhere.

You are absolutely right. Brilliant, in fact. I bow to your superior argumentation. You win.

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We're looking into the games future. I provided a guesstimate of potential sales which I would place at the really low end. If FDev can't use £2.4 Million I certainly could!

That's the key, right? Elite: Dangerous has already drawn in the 1980's space sim nostalgia crown (of which I'm a part). The future depends on drawing more players into the game and selling add-ons to existing players. If it can't do that ... then we're sunk. I don't wanna sink.

 

[Goose4291]

I see so on these forums, ED is an MMO when it suits the argument and not an MMO when it hurts the argument.

Yep. Welcome to the frontier forums. Your stance has to be absolutely right and everyone else is completely wrong to thrive here.

For such a opinion, buy more paint jobs for a ship you dont use as pennance, because you dont support the game enough

 

[Harmoniser]

I'd never even heard of Steam until I bought Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
And I wasn't impressed with Steam then.
I'm still not impressed with it now, but then, I've never really cared for anything Valve has made.
I don't read their forums, watch their ads, care about their opinions, use their chat - in fact, I always turn off their overlay - sure, it's a convenient digital library but that's the only thing it really has going for it.

I'm not sure you can say you don't care for anything valve had made and be taken seriously, as I'm guessing you haven't played half life 2, as you needed steam to play it when it came out, which was many years before skyrim

 

[scctldq123]

what is steam? never heard about it lel btw the last cg has more than 8k signed up and not everyone like to do cg like me so...

 

[Heavenly-Hammer]

While Steam does not represent the entirity of the ED player base, it is rather foolish to pretend Steam somehow doesn't matter or that those declining numbers aren't reflective of the state of the game and some problems it has.

And if you're not aware that ED is having some very public problems right now, I'd strongly suggest you use more than this forum for perspective...

 

[xondk]

http://steamcharts.com/

You are arguing yourself into a corner in my book, look at steamspy, look at the type of games on the top list, notice anything specific?

action action action games, and football, Elite is not that kind of game, but that doesn't mean Elite is a bad game, but the fact that you compare Elite with these top end games, when Elite is more a niche kickstarter/indie game, really is you praising the game and saying it a contender against those games.

Now lets try to compare Elite against something equally niche? instead? Lets say MMO's on steam removing free.

#	Game	                                                                        Release date	Price	Score rank(Userscore / Metascore)	Owners	                Playtime (Median)
324	Rust										Dec 11, 2013	$19.99	48% (81%)		                5,226,139 ±64,513	105:37 (23:48)
341	H1Z1: King of the Kill                                                          Feb 17, 2016	$19.99	16% (60%)		                4,861,559 ±62,251	51:40 (13:29)
374	ARK: Survival Evolved							        Jun 2, 2015	$29.99	29% (71%)		                4,690,774 ±61,161	118:06 (16:15)
211	DayZ										Dec 16, 2013	$34.99	25% (68%)		                3,624,900 ±53,839	81:22 (20:57)
167	H1Z1 : Just Survive								Jan 15, 2015	$19.99	20% (64%)		                2,722,422 ±46,713	64:15 (15:51)
240	The Elder Scrolls® Online: Tamriel Unlimited™	                                Mar 17, 2015	$29.99	48% (81%)		                1,061,441 ±29,230	70:36 (17:34)
400	Hero Siege									Jan 29, 2014	$5.99	51% (82%)	                        1,046,452 ±29,023	11:47 (03:56)
12	Elite Dangerous									Apr 2, 2015	$29.99	26% (69%/80%)	                          995,153 ±28,305       71:38 (18:30)

sorted by owners, but lets look at play time since that's definitely the more relevant. Well how about that. That's quite different isn't it? Suddenly Elite is doing quite well amongst he paid MMO games on steam? are there those that do better? oh certainly, but doom and gloom as people here indicate? not likely, but lets try another category.

Simulation:

#	Game	Release date	Price	Score rank(Userscore / Metascore)	Owners	Playtime (Median)
755	Garry's Mod	Nov 29, 2006	$9.99	91% (95%)	13,177,656 ±101,382	97:26 (16:30)
37	Don't Starve Together	Apr 21, 2016	$14.99	97% (97%/83%)	5,836,869 ±68,124	23:56 (08:22)
124	Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead	Jun 29, 2010	$19.99	81% (92%/73%)	4,170,187 ±57,706	52:41 (03:26)
76	Don't Starve		$14.99	97% (97%/79%)	4,012,069 ±56,613	23:19 (06:09)
11	DiRT 3 Complete Edition	Apr 1, 2015	$2.99	67% (88%/86%)	3,619,412 ±53,799	05:02 (01:51)
70	Euro Truck Simulator 2	Jan 16, 2013	$19.99	97% (97%/79%)	3,574,657 ±53,468	67:45 (19:49)
22	Cities: Skylines	Mar 10, 2015	$29.99	85% (93%/85%)	3,282,698 ±51,258	38:11 (12:34)
107	Arma 3	Sep 12, 2013	$39.99	78% (91%/74%)	3,011,638 ±49,113	175:32 (34:11)
565	The Forest	May 30, 2014	$14.99	78% (91%)	2,944,506 ±48,567	19:53 (10:30)
27	FTL: Faster Than Light	Sep 14, 2012	$9.99	94% (96%/84%)	2,712,500 ±46,628	27:48 (10:31)
237	Goat Simulator	Apr 1, 2014	$9.99	67% (88%/62%)	2,685,057 ±46,393	06:59 (02:24)
7	Stardew Valley	Feb 26, 2016	$14.99	97% (97%/88%)	2,394,153 ±43,824	47:26 (24:10)
78	Tropico 4: Steam Special Edition	Sep 1, 2011	$14.99	81% (92%/78%)	2,335,254 ±43,285	17:57 (04:16)
1137	7 Days to Die	Dec 13, 2013	$24.99	51% (82%)	2,204,791 ±42,066	71:56 (13:59)
31	Prison Architect	Oct 6, 2015	$29.99	88% (94%/83%)	2,201,202 ±42,032	26:29 (10:26)
1660	Space Engineers	Oct 23, 2013	$24.99	70% (89%)	2,164,469 ±41,681	50:27 (08:44)
53	Age of Empires® III: Complete Collection	Jan 5, 2012	$39.99	74% (90%/81%)	2,028,939 ±40,362	27:42 (05:20)
991	Besiege	Jan 28, 2015	$7.99	94% (96%)	1,811,922 ±38,153	12:11 (03:43)
148	Surgeon Simulator 2013	Apr 19, 2013	$9.99	55% (84%/71%)	1,758,513 ±37,589	03:32 (01:57)
8	Kerbal Space Program	Apr 27, 2015	$39.99	97% (97%/88%)	1,748,168 ±37,479	70:01 (15:11)
40	This War of Mine	Nov 14, 2014	$19.99	91% (95%/83%)	1,739,302 ±37,384	13:20 (05:18)
1774	Banished	Feb 18, 2014	$19.99	74% (90%)	1,702,570 ±36,989	30:41 (11:31)
25	SPORE™	Dec 19, 2008	$19.99	64% (87%/84%)	1,650,638 ±36,423	17:21 (06:59)
44	Crusader Kings II	Feb 14, 2012	$39.99	88% (94%/82%)	1,432,143 ±33,936	118:38 (11:18)
1954	ARMA: Cold War Assault	Aug 8, 2011	$4.99	58% (85%)	1,406,388 ±33,631	02:13 (00:15)
71	Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition	Oct 20, 2009	$9.99	74% (90%/79%)	1,388,866 ±33,422	07:15 (00:55)
18	The Sims™ 3	Jan 27, 2011	$19.99	55% (84%/86%)	1,334,190 ±32,759	60:47 (16:28)
179	Game Dev Tycoon	Aug 29, 2013	$9.99	94% (96%/68%)	1,247,636 ±31,683	13:22 (07:47)
92	Arma 2	Jun 29, 2009	$12.99	55% (84%/77%)	1,187,682 ±30,914	06:08 (00:34)
9	Europa Universalis IV	Aug 13, 2013	$39.99	81% (92%/87%)	1,163,405 ±30,598	195:49 (34:54)
636	SimCity™ 4 Deluxe Edition	Jul 20, 2010	$19.99	40% (77%)	1,153,694 ±30,470	18:37 (03:08)
60	Football Manager 2015	Nov 2014	$49.99	N/A (N/A/80%)	1,127,517 ±30,123	423:52 (185:30)
48	Football Manager 2016	Nov 12, 2015	$49.99	23% (66%/81%)	1,123,295 ±30,067	357:46 (158:31)
1024	Plague Inc: Evolved	Feb 18, 2016	$14.99	88% (94%)	1,104,929 ±29,821	11:30 (05:50)
2168	Tabletop Simulator	Jun 5, 2015	$19.99	85% (93%)	1,103,662 ±29,804	16:12 (05:06)
202	Age of Mythology: Extended Edition	May 8, 2014	$29.99	55% (84%/66%)	1,058,063 ±29,183	22:35 (06:07)
332	Knights and Merchants	Oct 14, 2013	$2.79	55% (84%)	1,033,364 ±28,842	04:50 (01:20)
29	SpaceChem	Mar 2, 2011	$9.99	97% (97%/84%)	1,004,442 ±28,436	05:13 (01:03)
812	Train Simulator	Sep 17, 2015	$15.99	20% (64%)	1,002,964 ±28,415	71:22 (07:16)
105	Tropico 5	May 23, 2014	$24.99	40% (77%/75%)	1,002,120 ±28,403	20:55 (09:57)
46	Stronghold HD	Oct 21, 2013	$5.99	88% (94%/81%)	996,420 ±28,323	08:49 (02:23)
68	Elite Dangerous	Apr 2, 2015	$29.99	26% (69%/80%)	995,153 ±28,305	71:38 (18:30)

63 location sorted by owners.

RPG:

#	Game	Release date	Price	Score rank(Userscore / Metascore)	Owners	Playtime (Median)
3	The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim	Nov 10, 2011	$19.99	88% (94%/94%)	11,495,775 ±94,901	117:00 (48:05)
63	Terraria	May 16, 2011	$9.99	97% (97%/83%)	8,469,993 ±81,784	78:49 (23:32)
134	PAYDAY 2	Aug 13, 2013	$19.99	51% (82%/79%)	7,729,645 ±78,203	54:36 (17:06)
21	Borderlands 2	Sep 17, 2012	$19.99	97% (97%/89%)	7,342,688 ±76,259	60:10 (23:52)
234	The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition	Oct 27, 2016	$39.99	61% (86%/74%)	5,845,524 ±68,174	24:05 (04:18)
1024	Rust	Dec 11, 2013	$19.99	48% (81%)	5,226,139 ±64,513	105:37 (23:48)
554	ARK: Survival Evolved	Jun 2, 2015	$29.99	29% (71%)	4,690,774 ±61,161	118:06 (16:15)
53	Fallout: New Vegas	Oct 19, 2010	$9.99	91% (95%/84%)	4,678,530 ±61,082	59:52 (21:14)
25	The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition	Apr 16, 2012	$2.99	67% (88%/88%)	4,572,344 ±60,394	15:17 (04:51)
55	Fallout 4	Nov 9, 2015	$59.99	44% (79%/84%)	4,181,587 ±57,784	110:01 (58:35)
866	BioShock™ Remastered	Sep 15, 2016	$19.99	8% (48%)	3,745,231 ±54,717	04:00 (01:31)
233	Magicka	Jan 25, 2011	$9.99	88% (94%/74%)	3,732,776 ±54,627	10:34 (04:46)
120	Dead Island		$19.99	N/A (N/A/80%)	3,551,224 ±53,294	18:19 (07:39)
2115	Castle Crashers®	Sep 26, 2012	$14.99	94% (96%)	3,445,038 ±52,499	08:48 (04:07)
26	Torchlight II	Sep 20, 2012	$19.99	91% (95%/88%)	3,370,729 ±51,934	25:36 (11:20)
447	BioShock™ 2 Remastered	Sep 15, 2016	$19.99	5% (43%)	3,314,364 ±51,502	03:48 (01:40)
39	The Witcher: Enhanced Edition Director's Cut	Sep 19, 2008	$9.99	61% (86%/86%)	3,283,964 ±51,267	16:00 (03:04)
87	Borderlands	Oct 26, 2009	$19.99	88% (94%/81%)	3,276,787 ±51,212	29:50 (13:07)
54	The Binding of Isaac	Sep 28, 2011	$4.99	94% (96%/84%)	3,032,959 ±49,285	30:56 (06:17)
6	The Witcher® 3: Wild Hunt	May 18, 2015	$39.99	97% (97%/93%)	2,861,330 ±47,881	69:12 (32:32)
49	DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die™ Edition	Aug 23, 2012	$19.99	74% (90%/85%)	2,854,997 ±47,828	42:39 (09:00)
95	Starbound	Jul 22, 2016	$14.99	74% (90%/81%)	2,800,109 ±47,370	55:16 (26:17)
1547	STAR WARS™ - Knights of the Old Republic™	Sep 5, 2009	$9.99	70% (89%)	2,654,446 ±46,130	13:41 (02:46)
541	Darksiders Warmastered Edition	Nov 29, 2016	$19.99	58% (85%)	2,639,458 ±46,000	06:04 (02:59)
144	Mount & Blade: Warband	Mar 31, 2010	$19.99	97% (97%/78%)	2,601,459 ±45,670	107:54 (34:33)
7	Undertale	Sep 15, 2015	$9.99	94% (96%/92%)	2,491,473 ±44,701	15:31 (08:51)
34	Bastion	Aug 16, 2011	$14.99	97% (97%/86%)	2,429,830 ±44,148	06:13 (03:11)
22	Stardew Valley	Feb 26, 2016	$14.99	97% (97%/88%)	2,394,153 ±43,824	47:26 (24:10)
1492	ORION: Prelude	Apr 16, 2013	$0.99	42% (78%)	2,367,976 ±43,585	03:48 (01:25)
14	Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition	Dec 17, 2009	$19.99	53% (83%/91%)	2,313,299 ±43,082	19:58 (04:09)
501	7 Days to Die	Dec 13, 2013	$24.99	51% (82%)	2,204,791 ±42,066	71:56 (13:59)
43	STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II - The Sith Lords™	Aug 23, 2012	$9.99	70% (89%/85%)	2,190,858 ±41,933	20:38 (06:41)
1037	South Park™: The Stick of Truth™	Mar 3, 2014	$29.99	97% (97%)	2,069,050 ±40,757	16:24 (12:46)
94	Dungeon Defenders	Oct 18, 2011	$14.99	81% (92%/81%)	1,998,751 ±40,062	43:31 (11:37)
609	Titan Quest Anniversary Edition	Aug 31, 2016	$19.99	85% (93%)	1,876,310 ±38,822	16:18 (03:58)
201	Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel	Oct 13, 2014	$39.99	46% (80%/75%)	1,833,033 ±38,374	33:52 (17:52)
4	Mass Effect 2	Jan 26, 2010	$19.99	94% (96%/94%)	1,828,811 ±38,330	39:10 (25:35)
379	Dead Island Riptide		$19.99	N/A (N/A/61%)	1,813,611 ±38,171	13:54 (05:36)
5	The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion® Game of the Year Edition	Jun 16, 2009	$14.99	91% (95%/94%)	1,801,789 ±38,047	28:52 (06:55)
32	Dying Light: The Following - Enhanced Edition	Jan 26, 2015	$23.99	85% (93%/87%)	1,780,257 ±37,820	35:58 (23:49)
19	Mass Effect	Dec 19, 2008	$19.99	88% (94%/89%)	1,654,437 ±36,465	23:19 (11:39)
334	Lord of the Rings: War in the North	Nov 1, 2011	$19.99	44% (79%/66%)	1,579,073 ±35,628	10:12 (03:36)
11	Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut	Oct 25, 2013	$19.99	78% (91%/91%)	1,545,507 ±35,249	16:46 (05:26)
272	Enclave	Oct 4, 2013	$4.99	36% (75%/71%)	1,496,108 ±34,683	02:24 (01:06)
166	Risk of Rain	Nov 8, 2013	$9.99	88% (94%/77%)	1,449,876 ±34,145	17:16 (05:37)
81	Crusader Kings II	Feb 14, 2012	$39.99	88% (94%/82%)	1,432,143 ±33,936	118:38 (11:18)
64	Torchlight	Oct 27, 2009	$14.99	85% (93%/83%)	1,410,188 ±33,676	15:44 (07:20)
390	How to Survive	Aug 29, 2014	$14.99	53% (83%/60%)	1,400,688 ±33,563	06:32 (02:51)
301	Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword	May 3, 2011	$9.99	58% (85%/68%)	1,376,200 ±33,269	23:17 (06:09)
183	The Ship: Murder Party	Jul 11, 2006	$6.69	64% (87%/76%)	1,372,189 ±33,221	03:51 (01:41)
2	Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition	Oct 27, 2015	$39.99	78% (91%/94%)	1,304,002 ±32,388	27:41 (08:41)
41	Rogue Legacy	Jun 27, 2013	$14.99	88% (94%/85%)	1,287,746 ±32,186	15:09 (08:05)
297	Risen 2: Dark Waters	Apr 26, 2012	$9.99	42% (78%/69%)	1,268,114 ±31,941	19:04 (04:13)
101	Overlord™	Nov 12, 2009	$4.99	88% (94%/81%)	1,209,426 ±31,195	06:17 (01:52)
66	Transistor	May 20, 2014	$19.99	91% (95%/83%)	1,201,615 ±31,095	04:58 (02:34)
93	To the Moon	Sep 7, 2012	$9.99	97% (97%/81%)	1,199,504 ±31,067	03:10 (02:37)
12	Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition	Oct 26, 2010	$29.99	85% (93%/91%)	1,187,049 ±30,906	38:48 (12:41)
1231	Dust: An Elysian Tail	May 24, 2013	$14.99	94% (96%)	1,180,927 ±30,826	06:59 (03:08)
893	Tom Clancy’s The Division™	Mar 7, 2016	$49.99	19% (63%)	1,175,438 ±30,755	88:02 (44:27)
57	Darkest Dungeon	Jan 19, 2016	$24.99	61% (86%/84%)	1,162,561 ±30,587	27:23 (12:57)
1970	FINAL FANTASY VII	Jul 4, 2013	$11.99	85% (93%)	1,128,150 ±30,132	24:45 (04:46)
17	The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind® Game of the Year Edition	Jun 16, 2009	$14.99	91% (95%/89%)	1,122,873 ±30,061	16:42 (02:16)
1892	Tabletop Simulator	Jun 5, 2015	$19.99	85% (93%)	1,103,662 ±29,804	16:12 (05:06)
13	DARK SOULS™ II	Apr 25, 2014	$39.99	64% (87%/91%)	1,096,907 ±29,713	82:11 (48:34)
254	Mount & Blade	Nov 3, 2008	$9.99	78% (91%/72%)	1,067,352 ±29,311	20:43 (02:58)
80	Endless Legend™	Sep 18, 2014	$29.99	53% (83%/82%)	1,062,074 ±29,239	26:07 (09:18)
1559	The Elder Scrolls® Online: Tamriel Unlimited™	Mar 17, 2015	$29.99	48% (81%)	1,061,441 ±29,230	70:36 (17:34)
124	Overlord II	Jun 24, 2009	$9.99	67% (88%/79%)	1,049,830 ±29,070	11:15 (04:09)
1942	Hero Siege	Jan 29, 2014	$5.99	51% (82%)	1,046,452 ±29,023	11:47 (03:56)
83	S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl	Mar 20, 2007	$19.99	91% (95%/82%)	1,045,608 ±29,012	13:05 (02:18)
127	DARK SOULS™ II: Scholar of the First Sin	Apr 1, 2015	$39.99	67% (88%/79%)	1,025,553 ±28,733	53:32 (29:04)
200	Tropico 5	May 23, 2014	$24.99	40% (77%/75%)	1,002,120 ±28,403	20:55 (09:57)
187	Shadowrun Returns	Jul 25, 2013	$14.99	70% (89%/76%)	995,576 ±28,311	14:25 (07:08)
122	Elite Dangerous	Apr 2, 2015	$29.99	26% (69%/80%)	995,153 ±28,305	71:38 (18:30)

118 place.

So yeah, Is elite doing bad? Does 'currently playing' or such say everything? not really, unless you are one of those that think unless something is in top 10/20 or so, it sucks and is doing bad, and if you think that, well, you are wrong, a game can be doing just fine, in the insane sea of games out there, if it is in top 1000, it all depends on amongst other things what it costs it to be there. And again, this is steamspy only, which can't scrape a lot of profiles on steam, so yeah..and again, steam only, some of these games don't have anything outside of steam.
Remember steam spy also has, these stats for Elite.
Players in the last 2 weeks: 80,642 ± 8,067 (8.1%)
Which is significantly more relative if you ask me, Lets check GTA V
Players in the last 2 weeks: 1,685,470 ± 36,804 (23.8%)

Well, how about that. Suddenly GTA V isn't as far ahead as people may think, and that's with 7 times the owners.
Owners: 7,083,027 ± 74,924
And it is a significantly bigger franchise, and an action action action game, is it being played more, sure, but again, Elite is a niche game and vastly different from the main popular action action action games of late, add that Elite is steadily growing, and yeah, it really isn't as doom and gloom as some make it out to be?

In short, Elite is doing quite fine, and comparing it against the long running much bigger budget games, is praise for Elite, not a factor against it.

 

[LeoBartlet]

has.

And if you're not aware that ED is having some very public problems right now, I'd strongly suggest you use more than this forum for perspective...

What are these very public problems you speak of?

 

[Yaffle]

I'm taking it off the 2.2 million units sold according to FDevs annual reporting which you can find on their site and has already been posted numerous times on these forums plus I already cited my source, what are you talking about?

2.2 million / 2 = ?

Nope, you need to think about the data you are looking at. Quite simply, it's wrong by the data gatherer's own admission coupled to us simply not knowing the proportion of those who registered via steam not using steam and if they are reflected there. So you have a numerator of unknown quality, because it's from a poor source and not recorded accurately, divided by a number we can't agree on what it means. There is a technical term for basing all of of your statistical assumptions off that - it's junk.

 

[xondk]

While Steam does not represent the entirity of the ED player base, it is rather foolish to pretend Steam somehow doesn't matter or that those declining numbers aren't reflective of the state of the game and some problems it has.

And if you're not aware that ED is having some very public problems right now, I'd strongly suggest you use more than this forum for perspective...

Yeah, read my previous post, and you may want to reconsider your statement, ED does not really have a very public problem... And consider, your perspective might be off. Heck all of ours may be off.

 

[fademist]

What are these very public problems you speak of?

he means the same ppl that whine from day 1...cause elite isnt like eve...

 

[LeoBartlet]

he means the same ppl that whine from day 1...cause elite isnt like eve...

So very public is code for forum echo chamber?

I get it now.

 

[Soon(TM)]

I can get literally all those things *without* steam. As I did before steam existed. And I'll continue to not need a third party jumping in to be the middle man.

Happy for you, I will continue to get everything i need from one platform while you continue to have to use multiple platforms to obtain the same result.

 

[Don Alvarez]

Happy for you, I will continue to get everything i need from one platform while you continue to have to use multiple platforms to obtain the same result.

 

[Heavenly-Hammer]

What are these very public problems you speak of?

Get off this forum and find another forum where they discuss this game. There are quite a few from GAF to Reddit to Mobius to The Inquisition and quite a few in between. Try a Discord. Try Mumble. Try ANYTHING but the echo chamber here that sees flames and proclaims "This is Fine."

If you need me to enumerate a list for you at this point, you really can't be part of the solution.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Get off this forum and find another forum where they discuss this game. There are quite a few from GAF to Reddit to Mobius to The Inquisition and quite a few in between. Try a Discord. Try Mumble. Try ANYTHING but the echo chamber here that sees flames and proclaims "This is Fine."

If you need me to enumerate a list for you at this point, you really can't be part of the solution.

Get off one echo chamber to go read another echo chamber?

Eh no.

 

[Kigre]

Its not a sinking ship dufus, we are all waiting for the next update.

 

[MickyG1982]

Its not a sinking ship dufus, we are all waiting for the next update.

Actually, I've been interrupted by beer...

 

[Garagiste]

Had never heard of Steam until I pitched up here, and I'd hazard a guess that there's a large number of silver spacemen that still haven't.

 

[Dbrn47]

Lordy, looks as if Civilization is a dead franchise too:



22.61% after six months. That's the end of 2K for sure. Dead, dead, dead. best not look at Call of Duty, as that is so dead it's dead for a second time.

I think this is the twentieth time ED has been declared dead via steam stats since it first hit steam, somehow it still remains.

DEAD