registered doesnt mean play through steam...aka half baked wrong numbers
ED Steamcharts "4,000" active players. Pathetic
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Lol. Where are you getting your 1 million ED owners from?
And 5% of a million is insignificant? Sure ok.
Well I was hoping you'd put 2 + 2 together and it'd click that a new platform will mean a growth in the playerbase.
But alas is seems it's not to be.
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An actual intelligent post... thank you... +rep
and these are sarcasm right? because if not someone needs to come back in from "The Black" more often...
Steam Chart for Elite Dangerous: http://steamcharts.com/search/?q=Elite+Dangerous was showing over 5k when I checked, so looks like a thousand more players showed up since the OP checked...
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It is the large part of the whole picture that you see at the web store through which the majority of ED sales go.
And since Frontier stopped itself issuing ED game sales or player numbers, this is the only figures-backed picture we have.
I don't care is Steam is Jesus .. I and many, many other owners of the PC version of Elite have never used Steam to launch ED .. and I love Steam, I have loads of games in my steam library, it's just that Elite: Dangerous is not one of them.
So that right there invalidates Steam numbers for Elite: Dangerous as there are other ways to start the game that never need to involve Steam whatsoever.
As has been said before, even before the game came out it has been said that "Elite is dying" ..... it hasn't yet.
How many do you know of? 100? 1000?
10,000?
Still insignificant compared to the 1 million ED players registered on Steam.
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How many of those "1 million ED players registered on Steam" consistently use Steam to launch ED?
Yeah I feel JuntiFour is getting a touch confused. I thought he was arguing about active players. Active players on Steam vs not on Steam?
I own a Steam copy, I count in the 1,000,000. But I do not launch ED through Steam.
I don't think I'm unusual.
For a long time Frontier did not offer keys, and even 6 months after they started doing them, folk were forced out Steam since you couldn't access the beta through the Steam client.
Why launch a launcher to launch a launcher, only an idiot would do that! (present company excepted of course)
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Not even close on current active players though, regardless.
Always want more of course, but in no way a ghost town.
You don't have any figures to back up your own hypothesis either. You have extrapolation which is not the same thing.
Since you like extrapolating though, this thread has several posts from players making it clear that they don't play th egame via Steam, so unless you think there's something about the players posting which makes them atypical, you could always extrapolate some more. I realise that you don't want to because it challenges your world view in which Steam has assumed a position of central importance but I can assure you that some players, myself included, literally couldn't give a crap about it and only use it when necessary.
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Nobody I know who brought Elite through Steam uses Steam to Launch ED .. not a single one.
Very few.
90% have either quit the game or gone dark by switching launcher. Since Frontier's last-released player figures are patently false (Braben's numbers claimed every purchase was still playing), we'll never know.
The clearly the people you know are an unrepresentative sample, given the Steam stats shows 5,000 using the Steam launcher right now.
Rubbish. Folks could return to play the main game through Steam any time they like.
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+virtual rep...
We do not know if this applies to 25%, 50%, or 95% of the Steam "owner" base.
Also keep in mind that sometimes playhers buy games on whim and never play them for a long time after purchasing them. In addition, there are at least some players who are like myself and typically play any given game in binges so to speak - i.e. play a given game they like almost solidly (gaming time wise which is typically not the same as real time) and then may not play that game consistently for several months (in my case - normally not because I am bored with it but rather for any of a number of other reasons).
so 5000 out of the million you quoted are using steam to launch.. that still leaves 995.000 who might not be.. Numbers are fun !
Seriously man can you stop misrepresenting data, or at least explain what you think that graph represents.
On a million Steam sales, in any given two week window only ~100,000 uniques are playing via Steam... 2 years after release? Is that it?
If so I think most companies would kill for those numbers.
I could but why. I've provided compelling reasons why folk switched out or do not use Steam, you're just saying oh they *could* switch back, and that's your argument?
If so Ill just say, oh well they could switch out again!
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You can argue with facts or opinions.
I prefer facts.
The number of active players has been stagnant since launch. This is a fact.
And I play beta using Steam. I never had a problem with that ...
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Tell us how he's misrepresenting data then, genius.
I see 900k+ owners, 90% of them haven't played the game since Horizon release. I fail to see how that's a misrepresentation of data when the info is taken from the steam API.
Carebears/Elite white knights like alternative facts, so they'll use dank words like "misrepresentation", "hypothesis" or "extrapolation" to have a better argument, too bad it doesn't make it any stronger. Sometime, I imagine them with a google dictionary next to them or the Frontier forums screenshoted in a framework next to their bed.
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Why are you generalising based on Steam stats then?
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