I'm not sure if anyone has reported this, but at least on my instance, the Star System Dropdown in the Commodities Market displays two bogus systems called "Test" and "SingleLightTest" (forgot the exact wording of the latter).
Patch Notes Update Elite: Dangerous 1.02 change log
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Traders don't like exploring, Explorers don't like combat, Bounty Hunters don't like... anyone!
But seriously, people getting so serious? This is a game, a sandbox game. It provides an environment to play in, any way you want. How you play, why you play and what you play are up to you.
I like shooting things. It doesn't pay great, progression is slow and I don't travel far. If I get bored later in the game then I'll trade, or explore. Who cares... It's FUN.
You do remember fun, don't you?
I was having fun doing rare trading but they took that away. I have been having fun bounty hunting but there is no progression to be had, in fact it has COST me money when you take into account buying my cobra and outfitting it to do so.
I want to be able to have fun and progress. Right now they are mutually exclusive. You can either have fun, or progress. But not both.
plenty for you right now because you have a small ship, once you have a big ship you'll see the prices. Once the shooting begins that 400k an hour won't do you any good.
Yes, I very much expect so.
yep. Especially if its fun.
Ofcourse it will, you see.. they've had a talk with the slave distributors and have changed things around so commanders don't steal eachothers slaves, so that everyone gets their allotted amount of slaves. It is fair, you see? what.. Maelstrom? empire progression? chat? broken market? no no, we have nerfing to do.
I like it. Improved(tm) I take it it goes hand in hand with Soon(tm)?
I don't quite understand the Rare problem and why they would be nerfed to 'stop CMDRs sitting in stations waiting for the respawn' as some people suggest.
Why would FD do that? Thats not a 'solution'.
Game play is about having and choosing options, if CMDRS sitting in stations is a problem, then provide motivation not to do it.
Why would FD do that? Thats not a 'solution'.
Game play is about having and choosing options, if CMDRS sitting in stations is a problem, then provide motivation not to do it.
This is the thread that you intended to monitor.
4 hours passed, alot of feedback was given, players that usually defended your design decisions raised their concerns, backers that accompanied the process stated they are at a turning point...
...still, not a single word from you.
Not even the slightest word if anyone is looking into it, if it is working as intended, just the well known cryptic change-log and then utterly silence.
We understood after the "offline-mode"-discussion that this is "your" game and you design it that way. Very clearly stated, very clearly understood.
But asking for feedback and then just ignoring it, leaves not the finest impression.
Yes it is your game.
Yes you have every right in changing whatever you want.
But who will be left to play the game, if you continue to just do whatever you want with it?
They are busy, some might say, well they answered other threads in the meantime, so a simple statement off "We'll have a look." may not be too much demanded.
And for those who are not affected...wait for it....
Kind regards, a player who is caring and agreeing to this:
And what is wrong with that in a sandbox game? If this game had an offline mode I wouldn't make slightest bit of difference to anyone how I played it. I would be having fun, FDev would have sold a game to me at a profit to them and everyone would be happy... regardless of how I played the game. I wasn't initially bothered when it was announced we would have to be online at all times but now I am seeing how that is coming back to bite us all in the asp. I cannot just install the game and play it in a way that is fun to me, I have to play it the way FDev insist and I have to justify my actions to players who think I should play differently because that is how they want to play.
How is that too much too fast when a Python costs 56mil and an anaconda is 154 mil? That's not counting that (from what I read before) that fuel for a Python is 2600 for a 13ly jump.
Exactly. Nerfing this game, when the market is broken, seens like a wasted exercise, time would be better spent righting the market.
Personally i'm not impressed with this.
Traders don't like exploring, Explorers don't like combat, Bounty Hunters don't like... anyone!
But seriously, people getting so serious? This is a game, a sandbox game. It provides an environment to play in, any way you want. How you play, why you play and what you play are up to you.
I like shooting things. It doesn't pay great, progression is slow and I don't travel far. If I get bored later in the game then I'll trade, or explore. Who cares... It's FUN.
You do remember fun, don't you?
The issue is that after a couple hundred hours, the progression rate halts. Everything you do you've already done a hundred times before. The previous hundred times were okay though because you felt progression. Once progression halts, it ceases to be fun because it ceases to be rewarding. So for the sake of argument lets move on to a different profession: Bounty hunting. You make a mistake, fair enough, you should have known better than to boost into an Anaconda NPC. Insurance cost: 1.5 Mil. What's the highest bounty right now worth? 100k? Do that 15 times and you've got your insurance premium back. Got bored? Go explore. 15 jumps, 15 systems, nets about 10k. Do that 150 more times and you have your insurance premium. See my point?
Well stated! This is the issue.
"Sandro Sammarco Sandro Sammarco, Lead Designer- Elite: Dangerous
* Smuggling successfully will no longer cause reputation loss (so smugglers should have an overall better time - you can do smuggle missions for rep and you only lose (a more reasonable amount) when you are caught."
The very next day I got a single scan bringing a mission item for Feds back to the Fed station. Got scanned and my friendly status that I had spent all Gamma building got ruined completely for the faction and all sub factions, also making my military ranking useless.
* Smuggling successfully will no longer cause reputation loss (so smugglers should have an overall better time - you can do smuggle missions for rep and you only lose (a more reasonable amount) when you are caught."
The very next day I got a single scan bringing a mission item for Feds back to the Fed station. Got scanned and my friendly status that I had spent all Gamma building got ruined completely for the faction and all sub factions, also making my military ranking useless.
Exactly this. Sitting in a station waiting to fill up with rares is boring in the extreme. I'd far rather be trading properly.
So fix that please. Then I wouldn't feel the need to numb my brain by trading in rares.
The "fix" that went in to trading at the weekend was a good idea, but it hasn't worked.
These problems are going to be difficult for them to solve when there's no sensible income progression for anything but trading, and even that is being hammered. I can't imagine given my couple of hours a night and interest in doing things other than making the same mindless docking run 2,000+ times that I will ever see the inside of a Python or Lakon, let alone an Anaconda. Is that how the game is meant to be?
For those who think that the people voicing their concerns are wrong or unjustified:
If I am thinking about quitting (and I am not alone) just weeks after I started playing the game, what do you think will happen to the game world if the players do not challenge the removal of things that motivate them to stay in the game?
If your OK with the nerf because it doesn't affect you. Fine. But you should care about other players leaving the game, otherwise your big sandbox will be empty. Remember, it doesn't affect you, so why are you OK with it affecting others negatively? If it doesn't affect you so much, support the people it does affect, or you will find those commanders over at RSI.
If I am thinking about quitting (and I am not alone) just weeks after I started playing the game, what do you think will happen to the game world if the players do not challenge the removal of things that motivate them to stay in the game?
If your OK with the nerf because it doesn't affect you. Fine. But you should care about other players leaving the game, otherwise your big sandbox will be empty. Remember, it doesn't affect you, so why are you OK with it affecting others negatively? If it doesn't affect you so much, support the people it does affect, or you will find those commanders over at RSI.
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