Patch Notes Update Elite: Dangerous 1.02 change log

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Because of relative distances for each rare commodity, the time and effort involved to fly to many different systems and fill your ship, no im sorry its nowhere near where it was, its went from a valuable, fun, mechanic, to an afterthought, ONLY AFTER it was determined that players where making money without the "landing grind" of Point to Point trading.

Yes, but in terms of credit/h it may even be better for an dedicated player. More "Work" sure, but no downtime for buying 1.01 style. It will still be a mindless grind, but honestly if you want to make credits fast atm its always a mindless grind.
 
Ok people I feel your pain. But let's leave Michael alone now as it's becoming a let's poke Michael with a stick party.

ED will fix it for sure and hope we can move on to the next flame.

Take care all and Michael get some sleep!
 
Yes, but in terms of credit/h it may even be better for an dedicated player. More "Work" sure, but no downtime for buying 1.01 style. It will still be a mindless grind, but honestly if you want to make credits fast atm its always a mindless grind.

I assure you it is not even close.

And thats why people are upset. This mechanic was a refresh from the mindless grind. They took it away and now thats all we are left with if we want progression.
 
Well said!

The Devs need give something to those with bigger ships who NEED the higher rewards which are NOT scaling with the game. Doing 10k courier missions in a 60 million ship doesn't really do much. With the trading nerf as well as the rares nerf and the missions not scaling I'm not sure exactly what the devs expect those with bigs ships to do to maintain all the costs?

I get the feeling that they don't want any of us in big ships yet!

See, no wipe on launch, but needing everything after launch.

I was so pro ED prior to launch as the game I have waited 30 years for, and they have managed to destroy that feeling in a couple of days.
 
I assure you it is not even close.

And thats why people are upset. This mechanic was a refresh from the mindless grind. They took it away and now thats all we are left with if we want progression.

Well, i must honestly say i havent tryed it, so you may be right.

In other news why does the Ford Harrison BB in Arcturus hate me so much, not one mussion i want to do on it :(
 
Nonsense - the change was made because the rares weren't as rare as they should be. There's no conspiracy theory here.

Michael

Another thing. Is this an unequivocal denial that you will ever sell credits or other game progression for real life dollars?

I think there are plenty of people here who see it coming. You might get out ahead of the issue for once and tell us what the real deal is.
 
Is there a new requirement to moan and groan and gripe and whine rather than raise a ticket and post it to the devs?

You might not feel as good but it may be a whole lot more productive!

C'mon people! shake yourselves....

See a problem JUST RAISE A TICKET

Think you know better than the Devs, why not join the team? JOIN THE TEAM

Why bother raising a ticket when you don't even get a reply. I raised a ticket 2 days ago for an issue where a station just randomly decided to take me out and received an automated email stating I would be contacted within 48 hours. Do you think I've had a reply or the status on my ticket has been changed from "New" at all.
 
The patcher is still borked. It's still displaying the same graphical anomalies from Gamma.

This is just one example.

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Another thing. Is this an unequivocal denial that you will ever sell credits or other game progression for real life dollars?

I think there are plenty of people here who see it coming. You might get out ahead of the issue for once and tell us what the real deal is.

Come on, really? Who would buy them?

Its not that i couldnt see it done at some point (I dont think David would stand for it), but with the current state of the game it would be a bit pointless dont you think?
 
Why bother raising a ticket when you don't even get a reply. I raised a ticket 2 days ago for an issue where a station just randomly decided to take me out and received an automated email stating I would be contacted within 48 hours. Do you think I've had a reply or the status on my ticket has been changed from "New" at all.

Well, I raised one 16 days ago and it is still listed as 'new'. No notes, no nothing.
Since I now have a bricked copy if Elite, I have filed another one. Let's see what happens this time, shall we?
 
Dear Commanders,

We have just finished issuing credits refunds to everybody inconvenienced by this afternoon's server problem.

Heh. Too bad I don't get one for the stupid AI jamming ships into the entrance of the Coriolis as I was trying to exit, and then having the station blow me up for 'loitering' because I couldn't get out or land again. :eek::D
 
After reading about rare goods changes and some of the comments I decided to register just to write this simple post of appreciation.

I am mostly trading in game right now and I have quickly realized how broken rare goods economy was. To the point I considered it to be a bug. Newest change is definitely a good one. rare goods are a good income source for exploring players and not attractive to hardcore traders.


So again thank you for this change and do let some of the posters to discourage you. This was a good decision.
 
Come on, really? Who would buy them?

Its not that i couldnt see it done at some point (I dont think David would stand for it), but with the current state of the game it would be a bit pointless dont you think?


Same people that buy currency in every other MMO ever ? People who are so disenfranchised with the grind that they pony up for progression. Games that prey on these people are games that artificially induce grind and slow progression. Hmm.

Just a theory.
 
Some system (far, far away) are still unreachable : disconnected from server when HC to them. It's hard to go back to civilization....
I had "corrupted data" warnings yesterday too (I'm 1k+ LY from Sol, and didn't connect much since gamma 1)
 
Some system (far, far away) are still unreachable : disconnected from server when HC to them. It's hard to go back to civilization....
I had "corrupted data" warnings yesterday too (I'm 1k+ LY from Sol, and didn't connect much since gamma 1)

Did you get the 'transaction server' error when it disconnected you?
 
And if he does, people will flat out tell him that they don't believe him, or will start the next conspiracy theory. And then the next. And then the next. And Michael will spend all his time defusing these theories and being told that he's a liar for doing so.
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Let's ignore the obvious: that building a game like Elite Dangerous is really complex; that it consists of multiple mechanics that somehow have to mesh together, and that emergent behaviours are an inevitable product of that, especially when people are involved. So yes, there was feature creep. Yes, some features had to be postponed until after release to fulfil the most important imperative of any business: Just Ship It. Yes, the game needs balancing. Yes, it needs more debugging. Yes, it needs a lot more adding to. Yes, stuff that seemed a good idea on paper doesn't turn out to work in practice. Yes, mistakes were made and lessons learned. Yes, you can't please everybody all of the time. Yes, Frontier is to an extent making it up as they go along, because it has never been done before. Yes, it will continue to experiment, and some of those will be more successful than others. And yes, all this takes time to come to fruition and yes, if you expect perfection to fall into your lap after a few years of development then you don't need Elite Dangerous, you are already in a universe of your own.

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Another thing. Is this an unequivocal denial that you will ever sell credits or other game progression for real life dollars?

I think there are plenty of people here who see it coming. You might get out ahead of the issue for once and tell us what the real deal is.

That was in response to this: ^^^
 
And if he does, people will flat out tell him that they don't believe him, or will start the next conspiracy theory. And then the next. And then the next. And Michael will spend all his time defusing these theories and being told that he's a liar for doing so.
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Let's ignore the obvious: that building a game like Elite Dangerous is really complex; that it consists of multiple mechanics that somehow have to mesh together, and that emergent behaviours are an inevitable product of that, especially when people are involved. So yes, there was feature creep. Yes, some features had to be postponed until after release to fulfil the most important imperative of any business: Just Ship It. Yes, the game needs balancing. Yes, it needs more debugging. Yes, it needs a lot more adding to. Yes, stuff that seemed a good idea on paper doesn't turn out to work in practice. Yes, mistakes were made and lessons learned. Yes, you can't please everybody all of the time. Yes, Frontier is to an extent making it up as they go along, because it has never been done before. Yes, it will continue to experiment, and some of those will be more successful than others. And yes, all this takes time to come to fruition and yes, if you expect perfection to fall into your lap after a few years of development then you don't need Elite Dangerous, you are already in a universe of your own.

Well said man, well said. Please let me bear your children.

I think the devs need to pull out of this vicious 'discussion', get back to working on their vision and fix bugs.
 
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