Elite dangerous and bug/ch abusing has gone to next level.

Should discovered byu tags be removed from m67 star cluster

  • Yes, becasue there is no way with in game mechanics to achieve this

    Votes: 371 52.9%
  • No, let them keep them.

    Votes: 74 10.6%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 163 23.3%
  • replace the tags with "discovered by distant star expedition" tag.

    Votes: 93 13.3%

  • Total voters
    701
  • Poll closed .

Goose4291

Banned
Lies! You're trying to lead us out into your private group like lambs for the slaughter. You give us bad advice on FSD mods and then make us watch as you claim those first discoveries in a full meta explo build that has no rival, takes no skill, leaves no prisoners and is OP to the max!

Non-consensual honking is greifing!!!

:p

'Honk gud'?
 
My opinion of the way FDEV could memorialize this expedition would be for all the commanders to land on a landable body somewhere in the cluster, take several screenshots of all the parked ships, then FDEV could add a POI to that planet/moon at those coordinates of the ship "graveyard" of the original group. Maybe with placards or something that when you target or scan with your SRV you get info on the cmdr name and date or some such. Maybe even throw in a makeshift colony/habitat with a building labeled The Restaurant at the end of the Universe :)

And of course by removing tags illicitly gained or replacing them with "Distant Stars Expedition" instead of individuals.
 
My opinion of the way FDEV could memorialize this expedition would be for all the commanders to land on a landable body somewhere in the cluster, take several screenshots of all the parked ships, then FDEV could add a POI to that planet/moon at those coordinates of the ship "graveyard" of the original group. Maybe with placards or something that when you target or scan with your SRV you get info on the cmdr name and date or some such. Maybe even throw in a makeshift colony/habitat with a building labeled The Restaurant at the end of the Universe :)

And of course by removing tags illicitly gained or replacing them with "Distant Stars Expedition" instead of individuals.

Ooh! An expedition graveyard (that you can only reach by effectively adding your ship to the graveyard) - that would be great! :)

(And someday it will be reachable without dying, and then it's even more powerful as a marker of history)
 
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If FDev was planning on further buffs to jump range that could allow a 2 way trip to the cluster, I might understand the complaints.

As it stands, let them have a tag in a system no one would have looked at if it wasn't for them. It's a nice gesture that doesn't impact any of us.
 
If FDev was planning on further buffs to jump range that could allow a 2 way trip to the cluster, I might understand the complaints.

There will be further buffs to jump range. FDev can't sell seasons unless the seasons offer players cool new things to do with our ships, and the most fundamental thing to do with our ships is new ways to level-up the specs.
(Eg. Much fewer people would have bought 2.0 if the SRVs could merely roam the surface - that would have been widely panned as a pointless and boring waste of time. So the SRVs collected new "materials" that buffed your ship, as a stopgap incentive while the surface game-development works towards greater things)
 
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If FDev was planning on further buffs to jump range that could allow a 2 way trip to the cluster, I might understand the complaints.

As it stands, let them have a tag in a system no one would have looked at if it wasn't for them. It's a nice gesture that doesn't impact any of us.

Wow. You really are completely in the dark about the issue here.
 
Lies! You're trying to lead us out into your private group like lambs for the slaughter. You give us bad advice on FSD mods and then make us watch as you claim those first discoveries in a full meta explo build that has no rival, takes no skill, leaves no prisoners and is OP to the max!

Non-consensual honking is greifing!!!

:p

Wow.. you toped that :D

+1 Virtual Rep
 
Illuminate me. Do you think they shouldn't have started the expedition in the first place?

Are you upset that they were allegedly returned by support at all?

Let's get this out of the way: one CMDR was returned. There is zero effort on the part of DSE to get people back in the bubble using support. It's not something we approved of in the slightest and we were not told data was sold.
 
This was a tough one. I kind of want to jump on the 'that's an exploit' or 'cheapens the experience' wagon, but I just can't bring myself to do it, not even facetiously. Hard for me to care about who tagged what... Sorry friends.

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Well, guess i'm in the dark as well then, because i'm totally cool with this.

What if the Elite rank depended on it? [haha]
 
If you climb a mountain that no one else has ever climbed,--

and you get to the top and you find a tent and bodies and a note that says-- J. Levi, K. Mish discovered this mountain and ascended it.

and the note is dated 20 years before you--

Do you claim it never happened, and claim the discovery for yourself?

Do you destroy the evidence that anyone was ever there?

Or, are you appreciative of the historical record that you found when you got there, showing that someone got there first.


It's just an accurate documentation of who got there first. If it bothers you, imagine that they left bouys in orbit before dying.
 
Who cares? How does this actually matter? Its just a vanity thing. Big whoop.

Having a bad day? You're doing a trollish thing of posting in threads devoted to topics you don't care about, just to mock people for caring. It's better to knock that off. Either nothing matters because it's all a game and so why do you even play it let alone waste your life on fan forums, or else it's a game made for people to care about, in which case you post in the threads about topics you care about, and skip past the threads on topics you don't care about.
 
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You seem to have a troll habit of posting in threads about topics you don't care about, just to mock people for caring. Knock it off. Either nothing matters because it's all a game and so why do you even play it let alone waste your life on fan forums, or else it's a game made for people to care about, in which case go post in the threads about things you care about, and skip past the threads on topics you don't care about.

This is a poll. One option is "I don't care." The post was to explain why I don't care. The "discovered by" tag is a vanity thing. Doesn't actually change anything in the game other than some on-screen text. Perhaps I should have said "It doesn't really matter," but I think you would have had a similar response.

I don't mock people for caring, just end up incredulous when people care about relatively insignificant things and like to point that out. If you actually read some of the posts I have made on the forums, you will see there are things I do care about. Things that matter in the game. You are cherry-picking a precious few of my posts, twisting my words, and blowing them out of proportion.

By all means though, call me a troll...
 
I don't mock people for caring, just end up incredulous when people care about relatively insignificant things and like to point that out. If you actually read some of the posts I have made on the forums, you will see there are things I do care about. Things that matter in the game. You are cherry-picking a precious few of my posts, twisting my words, and blowing them out of proportion.

By all means though, call me a troll...

I actually repped you earlier today, so I do know you have it in you to offer much more (I had edited my post above to question whether you were having a bad day, just not quickly enough).
I am not twisting your words or cherry picking; you dropped your standards (presumably just briefly) and I'm (genuinely) glad you don't intend to be a troll :)
 
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Rafe Zetter

Banned
When getting stuck in most online games, support will usually move you to safety. The issue here isn't so much getting stuck, but rather intentionally getting stuck. Whilst everyone on the Distant Stars expedition should have been well aware it was likely a one way trip, in many other cases, it's all to easy to get unintentionally stuck inside a system.

I'm not saying whether or not Frontier should actually step in and help, just that in other online games when people get trapped due to game mechanics - support will usually help out. So in this case, isn't it really a question of whether Frontier should be helping people that intentionally got stuck?

(Assuming Frontier actually did move them in this case - as there are in-game ways to get back).

The "normal" support methods don't apply here though, as much as FD wanted to reward the efforts of the expedition as many have said; they broke thier own rules. That chap that got stuck on a planet because FD's ship recall system borked, he decided to RP his way out of it (fair play, it was riveting), FD at no point stepped in to say "oops that's our bad, our ship pathfinding wasn't up to the job so here's a new ship". It was only at the very end they stepped in, in the least obtrusive way they could (iirc).

Same for that guy who was rescued by the miner.

Every time you get into your ship, you make a choice, and if a choice turns out that you have to sacrifice to fix it, then that's what you MUST accept, without any intervention from the fairies.

In Eve Online there is a rule, it's THE #1 rule "do not fly what you cannot afford to lose", and while this game is not Eve Online, the same is true, if you undock, you accept any consequence that happens that is not directly related to a game bug / issue.

This expedition was clearly entered into with eyes wide open.

Pretty much since exploration became a "proper" thing, rather than just a jolly around the local systems, people have been pleading for a way to KEEP YOUR DATA after ship death to be able to claim those tags.

and as we know FDev, have absolutely, resolutely and REPEATEDLY said "NO".

and then they go and do this.

Classic hypocrisy, and undermining the acheivements of the players who did it legitimately.

Here's an idea: Put them ALL back with the ships in the same state (even the ones who sacrificed), and let them see if each of the other ships empty their remaning fuel into ONE ship, whether that's enough to get HIM /HER back. If they can do that, then the entire group gets to keep the "discovered by expedition" tag, otherwise, tough, no tag because in reality no-one would know you got there.
 
If you climb a mountain that no one else has ever climbed,--

and you get to the top and you find a tent and bodies and a note that says-- J. Levi, K. Mish discovered this mountain and ascended it.

and the note is dated 20 years before you--

Do you claim it never happened, and claim the discovery for yourself?

Do you destroy the evidence that anyone was ever there?

Or, are you appreciative of the historical record that you found when you got there, showing that someone got there first.


It's just an accurate documentation of who got there first. If it bothers you, imagine that they left bouys in orbit before dying.

For me is not about the name, is about FD support(Devs) "breaking" their own set of rules and helping people do impossible things in game ( and not resolving BUGS)

So if i want to go to the Colonia Fast, I would just need to tell them a sad history about having lack of time to get there, and such things , and IF they liked my story they would do it .

Just to be Frank here

I like the Tickets guys way more them most Devs, they are very straight forward with their explanations to the problems we face in game.

So ....
100% cool guys... But need a firmer hand.
 

Goose4291

Banned
Having a bad day? You're doing a trollish thing of posting in threads devoted to topics you don't care about, just to mock people for caring. It's better to knock that off. Either nothing matters because it's all a game and so why do you even play it let alone waste your life on fan forums, or else it's a game made for people to care about, in which case you post in the threads about topics you care about, and skip past the threads on topics you don't care about.

Illuminate me. Do you think they shouldn't have started the expedition in the first place?

Are you upset that they were allegedly returned by support at all?

Its not about starting the expedition
Its not about the expeditions intent
Its not about the group doing the expedition

The ire stems from the fact that everyone knew (due to game mechanics) jumping there would be a one way trip, and at least one commander has been teleported back to the bubble by asking for out of game help and god modding while those who actually play the game within the constraints of its mechanics and engine are either stuck there, or had to suicide their way home and are gaining zero credits or discovered by tags while 'engage easy mode' types have gone back to make money and get their first discovery tags
 
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