Elite dangerous and bug/ch abusing has gone to next level.

Should discovered byu tags be removed from m67 star cluster

  • Yes, becasue there is no way with in game mechanics to achieve this

    Votes: 371 52.9%
  • No, let them keep them.

    Votes: 74 10.6%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 163 23.3%
  • replace the tags with "discovered by distant star expedition" tag.

    Votes: 93 13.3%

  • Total voters
    701
  • Poll closed .
11 pages of rage already. Keep it up guys. We can make page 36 for sure at this rate!

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Less commenting ...

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Moar rage!

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We gotta get this sucker to 36 pages and we're on a tight schedule dammit!
 
I'm just pointing out that the discovered by tags may quite easily have been obtained by people that made their own way back...

wrong. There are NO neutron stars in the cluster (believe me I've explored the entire cluster). Only 1 star NEAR the cluster (AH Cancri) can be tagged with double neutron boost.
 
There's a CMDR taaaaaag hanging in the sky
They said it couldn't be there
So it's presence blows my mind

There's a CMDR taaaaaag hanging in the sky
They told it wouldn't show up
Because it's all cosmic jive


*boogies*
Oh no, not me
I never lost control

You're face, to face
With the martian who sold the world

I laughed and shook his hand


*makes way back home*
 
I'm just pointing out that the discovered by tags may quite easily have been obtained by people that made their own way back...

There is no legitimate way back Ant, that was the entire point of the suicide exploration mission! We can't tag any systems but we can get the data into EDDB.
 
hand-holding is frontier support's job. Seems they do 90% hand-holding and 10% bug fixing.

Aw c'mon that's unfair - Support do not code the game. And Support do a fantastic job. This was probably nothing more than a CMDR taking advantage of an overly-helpful Support bod and selling their data.
 
I must also point out that this can in no way be interpreted as helping commanders. Most commanders involved are NOT doing this intentionally.
1. They encountered a bug.
2. Fdev INCORRECTLY restored their ship OUTSIDE the cluster.
3. They sold exploration data assuming data from inside the cluster would be lost.
This is unfair to these commanders who will now inevitably be accused of cheating AND to the rest of the commanders on the Distant Stars Expedition who will feel slighted for having this pristine cluster muddied by tags.
 
So much salt.....
The players did a great job getting there and got rewarded. Let them keep it.

Cut it out with the "salt" thing. That's just silly sniping without answering the points being made. And no - whilst it's "brave" of the Distant World explorers to go on a one-way trip, to be managing to sell that data on a supposedly one-way trip just because they got assisted back from their 1-way trip, is completely unearned.
 
I must also point out that this can in no way be interpreted as helping commanders. Most commanders involved are NOT doing this intentionally.
1. They encountered a bug.
2. Fdev INCORRECTLY restored their ship OUTSIDE the cluster.
3. They sold exploration data assuming data from inside the cluster would be lost.
This is unfair to these commanders who will now inevitably be accused of cheating AND to the rest of the commanders on the Distant Stars Expedition who will feel slighted for having this pristine cluster muddied by tags.

IF the DSE players involved really want to clear their name they will of course be asking FD to reset all data handed in at the time they got back of course and not just that from inside the cluster :p
 
I must also point out that this can in no way be interpreted as helping commanders. Most commanders involved are NOT doing this intentionally.
1. They encountered a bug.

1. is fine - they encountered some bug and needed help - that's fine.

2. Fdev INCORRECTLY restored their ship OUTSIDE the cluster.

Yes, this seems to be the case, but...

3. They sold exploration data assuming data from inside the cluster would be lost.

This is where it all goes Pete Tong. This data should NOT have been sold. It was supposed to be a 1-way trip. The data was not supposed to have been able to be returned under a ship's own steam.

This is unfair to these commanders who will now inevitably be accused of cheating AND to the rest of the commanders on the Distant Stars Expedition who will feel slighted for having this pristine cluster muddied by tags.

No. It is unfair to everyone else who plays the game as intended, who went on the Distant Stars Expedition knowing full well it was supposed to be a 1-way trip and were fully prepared to self-destruct.

It's unfair to those CMDR's who DID in fact self-destruct.

No one is accusing the one or two CMDR's who sold their data of cheating - but nevertheless - that is unearned data, and for the reasons cited above it is grossly unfair to those other CMDR's.
 
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Frontier has to delete those "first discovered by" tags ASAP! Period.
There can be no question about it. It's a great insult to all of us spending months going out in to the void and back again - sometimes succeeding sometimes failing.
 
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Question: wasn't there a way to initiate a neutron charged jump while going trough the ejecta, effectively charging the next jump ?
 
Aw c'mon that's unfair - Support do not code the game. And Support do a fantastic job. This was probably nothing more than a CMDR taking advantage of an overly-helpful Support bod and selling their data.

And once again, no shame in the the players here. If you go on a one way mission. you go on a one way mission. You dont then ask for god to give you a way out. You made the choice and accept it. But i fault Fdev support just as much as the weak cmdr's who ask for the handouts.

What importance is the achievement if you remove all the consequence and risk?

If FD support is just going to save you then who cares if a bunch of people jumped really far into a star cluster. Whoopty doo. It mattered much more when they were doing it and knew that they were all going to die trying.
 
And once again, no shame in the the players here. If you go on a one way mission. you go on a one way mission. You dont then ask for god to give you a way out. You made the choice and accept it. But i fault Fdev support just as much as the weak cmdr's who ask for the handouts.

What importance is the achievement if you remove all the consequence and risk?

If FD support is just going to save you then who cares if a bunch of people jumped really far into a star cluster. Whoopty doo. It mattered much more when they were doing it and knew that they were all going to die trying.

It was a single commander who got lucky. Stop trying to invalidate what the whole of the DSE did.
 
It was a single commander who got lucky. Stop trying to invalidate what the whole of the DSE did.

since they allowed it. and promoted on their discord , they are as bad as the guy who did it!

I was the owner of the discord i would ban the guy. anyone that got it's rebuy on the face there should also be about the guy... because for me this derails everything the idea of the expeditions was....
 
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And once again, no shame in the the players here. If you go on a one way mission. you go on a one way mission. You dont then ask for god to give you a way out. You made the choice and accept it. But i fault Fdev support just as much as the weak cmdr's who ask for the handouts.

What importance is the achievement if you remove all the consequence and risk?

If FD support is just going to save you then who cares if a bunch of people jumped really far into a star cluster. Whoopty doo. It mattered much more when they were doing it and knew that they were all going to die trying.

Eh? No! Read my other posts in this thread before you imply that I support the selling of that data! LOL!
 
Well I was up there with the DSE, and I had a few first visits to systems (EDDB has my name on them as first visitor), but I crashed my ship into an asteroid so I’m back in the bubble now. I would never have taken advantage of Frontier Support to “cheat” my name onto systems though, that goes completely against everything the Distant Stars Expedition was about.

I voted that Frontier should clear all of the tags. Those tags weren’t earned, they were scammed.

+1, thats the attitude. :)
 
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