Elite:Dangerous for Linux?

In a rare pre-morning-coffee moment of clarity (or stupidity), I decided to work on a PlayOnLinux script to get ED running on Linux. Thankfully, it seems people are already talking about it.

If anyone is interested, there's some very recent stuff about this on the PlayOnLinux site.
 
+1

+1 from me - I only use Linux at the moment and whilst I am going to get a Windows install if I have to, just to run E:D, then I will. But but but.... I would be very happy with a Linux version of E:D - it's the only game I've been excited about for years and years.
 
Yeah, I'm currently migrating away from Windows, so you can imagine my disappointment when I found out there isn't a linux version of Elite: Dangerous. Hope they decide to port it sooner rather than later.
 
Another voice for a native Linux Elite Dangerous.

I switched to Debian over ten years ago and never looked back, I've found WINE very good but can be a little unstable in places. ED under WINE would be a temporary stopgap but I'd prefer a native executable.

Would a version for OSX not be most of the way towards a Linux version anyway?
 
+1 for Linux support. I only use Windows when I "have to" for gaming, and would definitely chip in extra for Linux support from a big game like this.

With Steam going Linux in a big way, and lots of games in it offering Linux support, I think a lot of gamers will be trying Linux out again/for the first time.

If you port to Linux first, you will more likely have an easier time porting to Mac, in no small part this is because you will foster and cultivate a community on your forums that is MORE THAN WILLING to help support themselves, and you at Frontier. Instead of a forum full of Mac users unwilling or unable to help themselves because there is a much smaller tradition of folks supporting each other under OSX. (why bother, it's the ISV's fault!)

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Like I've said; read your own forums, notice how Linux gamers are ALREADY trying (and failing, and not giving up trying) to get Elite: Dangerous running under Linux. Something Mac users simply CANNOT DO. Why would it make sense to cater to those less dedicated to your own rigorous development efforts? Why ignore or write-off those who try, even though they know you aren't behind them, to enjoy the epic masterpiece you are building.

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Look around the industry, look at the explosion of Linux games in the Steam catalog, sample the opinions of other game developers who've made the Linux leap. Look at the CONTINUED success of the Humble Bundle's Linux contributions.

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Not of any less significance, you will generate much positive press because of a Linux port (seriously, look at the vast vast majority of press any game gets for a Linux port, it's entirely positive (with very very few exceptions)). This Is easily testable. Just SAY ANYTHING AT ALL official in the positive of Linux support, and what will the internet do with your words? I suspect you already know it would make waves.

Prexactly.

Related: Humble Bundle: You helped bring over 100 games to Linux

[...] over the lifetime of Humble Bundle our Linux users pay $1 more than the average Mac user and $2.60 more than the average Windows user. Now that is something to humble brag about.

:smilie:
 
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I'm a lifetime Windows user who is looking to try out *nix. What flavour would people recommend? I was thinking about Mint or Ubuntu but I'm a sucker fro a pretty GUI (hence Windows) and I'm not sure these cut it .

Give Elementary OS a look, which is based on Ubuntu but uses a different desktop environment. I haven't tried it myself but hope to soon. It looks quite pretty and is supposed to be Linux-beginner-friendly.

Links:

Elementary OS

InfinitelyGalactic YouTube review

Elementary OS: Not just the poor man's Apple (the next version, not released yet)

A Norsified Linux for Windows and OS X wobblers (the next version, not released yet)

Edit: you may want to use Freya, the not-yet-"stable" version as I read it's supposed to be fairly reliable already.

I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 on my workstation at the moment. I find it looks okay, but I don't like some aspects of the desktop environment, like the weird scrollbar handles. I should look into tweaking it.

The nice thing is that you can try out a few distributions and decide what you like best.
 
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Although when you actually look at the games this seems less impressive. Still, onwards and upwards.

I'm a lifetime Windows user who is looking to try out *nix. What flavour would people recommend? I was thinking about Mint or Ubuntu but I'm a sucker fro a pretty GUI (hence Windows) and I'm not sure these cut it .

If you want regular and wide support, use Ubuntu. It's default environment Unity is serviceable enough, I enjoy GNOME Shell myself (using RedHat's Fedora Linux). It is also supported by many commercial vendors, especially game devs.
 
Crunchbang - UK based, Debian (very stable), simple, fast, lightweight, great community, simple, fast, works, simple, fast, smart design, works, easy, etc.
 
@ Kernel Kwatz!

Pretty much all (desktop oriented) distros are the same for a while when you're first learning Linux.

After you've used Linux for a while, you might be driven to other distros for a variety of reasons, usually based on your learning style and/or experience.

A while after that, you generally settle on Debian. (opinions vary on this, but so far that's the pattern). I'd avoid pure Debian at the outset though.

It's important to remember that Apple's OSX has One Look & Feel(tm), and Windows has (what amounts to) One Look & Feel(tm) as well.. but Linux desktops can have literally any look at all. Whatever desktop Linux you wind up running, keep in mind that you are NOT married to that graphical interface, and you can pick and choose which GUI you want in a preference icon at your graphical login prompt (whichever one of those you happen to be using at the time).

Every (desktop oriented) Linux distro will also come with (what amounts to) a( graphical)n App Store.. In fact, the whole App Store(tm) craze (made popular by Android and iOS) COMES from Linux's model of application package repositories.

Keep in mind that installing anything outside of the App Store (or in Linux parlance, package repository) is generally frowned upon, because (much like in windows) it's much harder to manage software which doesn't come from the package repositories. Fortunately, there are (no kidding,) tens of thousands of applications in any given Linux distro's application package repositories.

The vast majority of software available for Linux is in your distro's app repo, regardless of what distro you land on. This includes the GNOME's GUI, KDE's GUI, XFCE, LXDE, Enlightenment, and any of the other lesser known GUIs for Linux, so you have a lot to choose from. They're also entirely interoperable. I highly recomend installing all of them (drive space is cheap), and just futzing around with them til you find one you like. (people will call me crazy to suggest this, but they should try it too.)

Remember, when picking a (desktop oriented) Linux distribution, that they're just that; -distributions-. They are collections of software (GNOME comes from gnome, KDE comes from kde, Libreoffice comes from libreoffice, pidgin comes from pidgin, etc etc) that each distro gathers together from their respective sources, packages, and sticks in their respective app repositories. So if something does work on one distro, and doesn't work on another distro, it doesn't necessarily make one distro better than another, what it means is there's a configuration difference (80% of the time) which is causing the issue.

Some distributions of Linux are better assembled and maintained than others, and some should be avoided altogether (I'm looking at you, Gentoo) if you're a newbie.. But (except for Unity, which i personally don't like) you can't really go wrong with whatever you land on, armed with the understanding that all distros are collections of the same stuff.

Linux can be a bear to learn if you run into problems, but keep in mind that the whole world is out there to help you, unlike calling Microsoft or Apple support, you can literally ask anybody you know that uses linux for help and are sure to gain some insight (including "don't ask that guy for help again"). Remember that nothing Just Works(tm), not on OSX, not on Windows, and not on Linux either. The key difference is, though, you can generally *find* an answer for Linux problems. This usually involves asking people, trying things, and not giving up. For the most part Linux is successful because we all try to help each other. Linux isn't made by a company, and Linux isn't a failure, so we must be doing something right, hmm??

My opinion of good starter distros are Fedora (it's boring and stable) and Ubuntu (just pick a different GUI cuz Unity is teh gross). Cinnamon is my favorit GUI this week, but LXDE is what i log out and switch to for gaming because it's a good balance of uses-least-resources and has-minimum-number-of-features-i-like-in-a-GUI.

Another US$0.02++
 
Dear Frontier staff!

As an old Elite fan (from the first game at ZX Spectrum) I was waiting for the successful release of your project.
It seems I have to wait a little more until you release a linux client too. Hope it's still possible .. you know, there're many of the purest fans of this setting between the linux users, because it's natural to sci-fi fans to choose the most progressive in social and technical aspect platform. Just because it's the same future as interstellar flights and private spaceships with weapons :D

According to results of Humble Bundle, linux users are the most generous of any other platform users - we give more even when it comes to free donations.
So taking us seriously when it comes to selling premium ships and other ingame contens seems to have some reason.

As for me, I've bought Star Conflict and a few other ~A grade games in Steam. And a lot of ingame stuff in the first one too.

Think it over. I'm an old fan and I have an almost infinite patience. Sooner or later you or your competitors will have my money. It's you to decide will it be you or not.

Sincerely,
Anton.
 
Please try and keep it civil, if you don't have anything productive to add to the thread then please try to refrain from posting.

On the subject of Linux, it is something that will be considered but there is research that needs to be done into time and cost commitments, before we give our official stance on it. A quote from Kickstarter:

We are treating Linux seriously, we need to do some research for costings and so forth before promising. I'm sure you'd rather we did that than just slap the stretch goal up and hope for the best :) Michael
Oh the irony. It is almost too much to handle.
 
But doesn't do what you want which is play Elite.

Every few years I look at Linux and it is always several years behind what I want it to do, most recently is watch bluray movies.

If a free version exists then great, but I much prefer to pay and use immediately than to hang around waiting.

But how many of those reasons are legal(arguments aside) forced by the companies you give money too when from a technical standpoint they could have been done immediatley or prior or were forced out of the os and it's software. It's a different issue in those case. And sometimes without if there is no point in the other software without official ability to support something.
 
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I have hoped that I've bought an account and through that I've already bought a linux version, and mac version, and any other version that I might need/want in the future. Once they code and release them of course. So I'm hoping that E:D is a game that I will play for years to come and whatever device or OS that I'm using or change to there will be a client. With that client I can log into the servers and pick-up my game where it was. I should be free to switch and it shouldn't make an ounce of difference.

One game = One account = Any OS
 
Dear Frontier staff!

As an old Elite fan (from the first game at ZX Spectrum) I was waiting for the successful release of your project.
It seems I have to wait a little more until you release a linux client too. Hope it's still possible .. you know, there're many of the purest fans of this setting between the linux users, because it's natural to sci-fi fans to choose the most progressive in social and technical aspect platform. Just because it's the same future as interstellar flights and private spaceships with weapons :D

According to results of Humble Bundle, linux users are the most generous of any other platform users - we give more even when it comes to free donations.
So taking us seriously when it comes to selling premium ships and other ingame contens seems to have some reason.

As for me, I've bought Star Conflict and a few other ~A grade games in Steam. And a lot of ingame stuff in the first one too.

Think it over. I'm an old fan and I have an almost infinite patience. Sooner or later you or your competitors will have my money. It's you to decide will it be you or not.

Sincerely,
Anton.

I hate these kind of posts.

It basically amounts to a threatening, blackmail letter - "if you don't do what I want, I'll take my money elsewhere"

I could well imagine these type of posts hack the FD team off as well.
 
I hate these kind of posts.

It basically amounts to a threatening, blackmail letter - "if you don't do what I want, I'll take my money elsewhere"

I could well imagine these type of posts hack the FD team off as well.

If that bothers them this game has no hope and neither does their company! 8) If they have proper technical skills they should be way beyond that sort of thing. in fact, they should want more of it! 8D
 
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Well as it seems so far there will not be a Linux version of the game at launch and the foreseeable future.
I have searched and did not find any encouraging official word on the matter besides what was on the kickstarter campaign.
I am very disappointed as a Linux user and early backer of the game.
At this point it seems that I have wasted my money on a useless product.
I would appreciate an official statement on the future of the game on Linux.
Right now the game is useless and I have no time to troubleshoot the game on wine.
 
Yep, pretty much.

I don't know why Frontier has had such a traditional allergic reaction to Linux, but its to their own detriment, as I've outlined in multiple posts in this thread, and as the Linux gaming market keeps proving over and over.. Titles keep pouring out for Linux, and i keep buying them..

oh well, i guess i'm stuck playing Star Citizen when it comes out for linux. Sucks, i grew up on Elite. I've had an Elite related domain name for decades.. when I could play Elite and Frontier under Linux, i did. And even Pioneer Space Sim I still play..

actual space nerds just aren't welcome to the party, i guess. =(

it WOULD be nice to hear something official, but as long as i've been an Elite fan (since the '80s), I too am losing hope of ever hearing anything.

sucks.
=(
 
I am a Linux user and run Windows just for Elite, but this kind of indignant "all is lost, I'll take my money elsewhere" tone is very annoying. You won't be "stuck" playing Star Citizen on Linux until at least 2017 so Frontier have quite a bit of time to catch up to your expectations. Do you seriously think this is a priority for them? Yes, yes we are all fans of Elite and Linux, but let's face it, Linux on Steam has a consistent 1.1% market share. It is not yet a financially viable platform, and I would much rather Frontier put ALL their time right now into making the game fun, glitch-free and financially successful than satisfying the expectations of a few dozen Linux nerds like us. Let's just all behave like adults shall we?

Well as it seems so far there will not be a Linux version of the game at launch and the foreseeable future.
I have searched and did not find any encouraging official word on the matter besides what was on the kickstarter campaign.
I am very disappointed as a Linux user and early backer of the game.
At this point it seems that I have wasted my money on a useless product.
I would appreciate an official statement on the future of the game on Linux.
Right now the game is useless and I have no time to troubleshoot the game on wine.

Yep, pretty much.

I don't know why Frontier has had such a traditional allergic reaction to Linux, but its to their own detriment, as I've outlined in multiple posts in this thread, and as the Linux gaming market keeps proving over and over.. Titles keep pouring out for Linux, and i keep buying them..

oh well, i guess i'm stuck playing Star Citizen when it comes out for linux. Sucks, i grew up on Elite. I've had an Elite related domain name for decades.. when I could play Elite and Frontier under Linux, i did. And even Pioneer Space Sim I still play..

actual space nerds just aren't welcome to the party, i guess. =(

it WOULD be nice to hear something official, but as long as i've been an Elite fan (since the '80s), I too am losing hope of ever hearing anything.

sucks.
=(
 
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