timo I think we should wait until the dx11 implementation for WINE kicks in before we start a new thread. At the moment we are at an impasse, but hopefully that will change in the next few weeks.
I will personally keep checking to see if there is a change in the current setup.
That's a problem of cheapish hardware vendors together with ignorant game devs.
Even on windows there are problems, last year I bought a game from Sega that boasted with it's gamepad support. Just missed the asterisk saying that gamepads are only supported through 3rd party drivers and those had to be specially compiled in 32bit compatibility mode, because the game was not running native. Over a decade after DirectInput was introduced!
BTW, CIG is pushing a modular HOTAS controller project together with Saitek, and SC is announced to be released on Linux as well, so the controller situation should soon (tm) be remedied. X-Plane also runs on Linux and has many more features than E
(e.g. Multi-Screen Support), it might be worth checking what they recommend as input.
My Logitech Wireless Gamepad F710 is plug and play on Debian "Jessie"/KDE, so...
It's the same controller I've used with Windows 7, so no sacrifices or cherry picking. Here's my bindings for it, if anyone is interested offhand. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10967&page=263&p=2702151&viewfull=1#post2702151
And actually, now that I think of it, my wireless Logitech keyboard, mouse, and stereo headset with mic are all plug and play, so props to Logitech and Debian/KDE for that.
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Interesting thread. I would like to see a game like ED to be playable on a Linux OS. I'm still using Windows only because of the better game support. But that is also changing thanks to the effort Valve is making.
This. We are currently trying to communicate with some of interested Wine devs regarding ED testing. As we will get to something substantial we start new thread. This one stays as discussion in general, because we want native version in the end.
"My Logitech Wireless Gamepad F710 is plug and play on Debian"
Unfortunately, my $350 Saitek X65 is unlikely to ever have a Linux driver. As long as the Windows version is still viable, I'll stick with it so I can keep using my investment (as much I use Fedora also.)
There are SO MANY games I enjoy which will never be playable on Linux it would take a lot of changes in the game dev community for me to think of my linux as a game machine.
Don't get me wrong. You are preaching to the choir here. If Windows could go away without the quality game development also going away, I couldn't be more pleased.
While there is potential to increase a title's market share by adopting another platform, the number of Linux gamers seems too proportionately small to me compared to Win, Consoles and Macs.
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Unfortunately, my $350 Saitek X65 is unlikely to ever have a Linux driver. As long as the Windows version is still viable, I'll stick with it so I can keep using my investment (as much I use Fedora also.)
There are SO MANY games I enjoy which will never be playable on Linux it would take a lot of changes in the game dev community for me to think of my linux as a game machine.
Don't get me wrong. You are preaching to the choir here. If Windows could go away without the quality game development also going away, I couldn't be more pleased.
While there is potential to increase a title's market share by adopting another platform, the number of Linux gamers seems too proportionately small to me compared to Win, Consoles and Macs.
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Yeah, I guess I just lucked out. Something that might work OK for the sim. guys are the Logitech joystick in addition to their keypad which has another analog stick. I've heard of some people that use that setup for this game, but it might not be well enough to your liking.
Mainstream games for GNU/Linux are definitely getting more prevalent now though, so I think the writing's on the wall, as they say. Steam is a nice asset in that regard and helping to lead the way for the mainstream. It's only a matter of time now, in my opinion. (Except for those with more obvious invested interests elsewhere.)
I'd like if FD helped lead the way regarding this as well. Elite: Dangerous is already available through Steam, so maybe we'll get lucky one of these days.
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For those curious about Wine DirectX11 developments, can follow commits to Wine http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=search&st=commit&s=d3d11
Next week we will see another development release. I will try to get it tested ASAP.
Next week we will see another development release. I will try to get it tested ASAP.
Small yes. Too small? not anymore.
Wine development version update - nothing much but to keep you posted - now it hits two stubs, additionally to fixme errors I already pointed out:
Patches keep rolling at nice pace. I have compiled GIT version to stay up to date.
edit: everything dies with GetImmediateContext() and according to wine devs, this is essential element for DX11 games. Waiting for patches/comments.
fixme:d3d11:d3d11_device_GetFeatureLevel iface 0x1a32d8 stub!
fixme:d3d11
Patches keep rolling at nice pace. I have compiled GIT version to stay up to date.
edit: everything dies with GetImmediateContext() and according to wine devs, this is essential element for DX11 games. Waiting for patches/comments.
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Try it, my Saitek x52 Pro works great in Linux, there are even tools to play with the leds on it.
I actually bought a Windows PC just to play Elite: Dangerous! Never had a windows machine in this house before...
Couldn't bear the thought of everyone else playing the game while I sit on my laurels, and had to bite the bullet.
If I'd have been a conscientious objector, I'd have waited... But sorry, had to sell out Darn glad I did, too!
Watching the Wine updates - well done, +1 to you, Pecisk!
Couldn't bear the thought of everyone else playing the game while I sit on my laurels, and had to bite the bullet.
If I'd have been a conscientious objector, I'd have waited... But sorry, had to sell out
Darn glad I did, too!Watching the Wine updates - well done, +1 to you, Pecisk!
I actually bought a Windows PC just to play Elite: Dangerous! Never had a windows machine in this house before...
Couldn't bear the thought of everyone else playing the game while I sit on my laurels, and had to bite the bullet.
If I'd have been a conscientious objector, I'd have waited... But sorry, had to sell out
Watching the Wine updates - well done, +1 to you, Pecisk!
aah! well it's glad to know the game is worth waiting for. I just wish they'd hurry up so people wouldn't be forced to spend so much just to play it.
cheers
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I actually bought a Windows PC just to play Elite: Dangerous! Never had a windows machine in this house before...
Couldn't bear the thought of everyone else playing the game while I sit on my laurels, and had to bite the bullet.
If I'd have been a conscientious objector, I'd have waited... But sorry, had to sell out
Watching the Wine updates - well done, +1 to you, Pecisk!
I installed Windows 8 portable version on a San Disk Extreme USB stick,and have Elite loaded on that, works perfectly , i just boot with USB when I want to play and have no need to have windows anywhere on my hard disk.