Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made

[Sylveria]

Lolol, good stuff

Something tells me the mods are looking at this exchange and wondering just how the hades to most appropriately mete out punitive actions

Or perhaps they're LOL'ing at it like we all are, and glad that this thread hasn't deadlocked into the gritty non-hopeful debate it was once turning into?

 

[Robert Maynard]

The fact that we have solo is a major stopper for meaningful PVP.

Not everyone enjoys PvP - and Frontier designed the game to accommodate those players that don't too.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

Not everyone enjoys PvP - and Frontier designed the game to accommodate those players that don't too.

That doesnt change the fact that meaningful PVP content cannot exist with the current design of all modes being equal.

 

[Sylveria]

That doesnt change the fact that meaningful PVP content cannot exist with the current design of all modes being equal.

Might wanna tell your buddies to STOP calling for changes that remove content from Solo to make them PvP exclusive then.

Just sayin.

"All modes being EQUAL" and all that.

 

[Robert Maynard]

That doesnt change the fact that meaningful PVP content cannot exist with the current design of all modes being equal.

That rather depends on the definition of "meaningful PvP content". If it means "game features must be able to be dominated by PvP" then no, the game is not designed to do that.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

The fact that we have solo is a major stopper for meaningful PVP.

This is pretty much you admitting that you just need easy victims.

Nevertheless, neither Solo nor Private Groups are going away. So, basically, you can either get over it and move on, or you can just move on.

Your call.

 

[sovapid]

Front and center on elitedangerous.com

EPIC MULTIPLAYER

not

EPIC SINGLEPLAYER

 

[Robert Maynard]

Front and center on elitedangerous.com

EPIC MULTIPLAYER

not

EPIC SINGLEPLAYER


https://i.imgur.com/EvY6Zch.png

Indeed.

.... and multi-player does not require direct PvP. From the same site:

Whether you experience the open multi-player galaxy on your own or in a Wing where you can stay connected to a group of your buddies as you share in jointly-earned spoils, the connected galaxy delivers a constant source of new opportunities and people to play with and against.

In Solo play you can choose never meet another human player, yet the results of your actions still contribute to economy, politics and conflicts of the connected galaxy, and you experience the echoes of their activity.

 

[Sylveria]

Front and center on elitedangerous.com

EPIC MULTIPLAYER

not

EPIC SINGLEPLAYER


https://i.imgur.com/EvY6Zch.png

And so you got suckered in by an advertising campaign. (I'm sure it's not the first)

I fail to see how this is "Solo" players fault?

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Front and center on elitedangerous.com

EPIC MULTIPLAYER

not

EPIC SINGLEPLAYER


https://i.imgur.com/EvY6Zch.png

The fact that you think it means the game focuses on multiplayer is your problem, not ours.

 

[verminstar]

The fact that we have solo is a major stopper for meaningful PVP.

Ye really dont do yerself any favours do ye? Thats only half the quote, with the part yer missing out being 'rare'...which means solo serves its purpose in making pvp rare and meaningful. Its meaningful because those left in open are more likely to be prepared and not just ganking anything thats moves cos thatd kill the mode...oh no wait silly me, thats not a great argument is it?

Honestly, yer doing yer cause more harm than good everytime ye comment...its very entertaining to watch unfold but just now and then, its nice to remind ye just how wrong ye can be when ye try hard enough ^

 

[sovapid]

The fact that you think it means the game focuses on multiplayer is your problem, not ours.

Don't kill the messenger. I'm just stating what the home page of the game's website promotes.


Would you say FDEV is being dishonest with what the game focuses on via the homepage?

 

[ALGOMATIC]

The fact that you think it means the game focuses on multiplayer is your problem, not ours.

This game doesnt focus on anything, that's its biggest issue, we have no PVP content thats true, but its not like the PVE content is anything better, just go from A to B or farm X Npcs while making minimal amount of credits in the process.

 

[Sylveria]

Don't kill the messenger. I'm just stating what the home page of the game's website promotes.

Again, this relates to how Solo players "affect" PvP how, exactly?

You got suckered into the game by marketing, and that has NOTHING to do with Solo players. Take it up with FD if you're "unsatisfied".

 

[jasonbarron]

Ye really dont do yerself any favours do ye? Thats only half the quote, with the part yer missing out being 'rare'...which means solo serves its purpose in making pvp rare and meaningful. Its meaningful because those left in open are more likely to be prepared and not just ganking anything thats moves cos thatd kill the mode...oh no wait silly me, thats not a great argument is it?

Honestly, yer doing yer cause more harm than good everytime ye comment...its very entertaining to watch unfold but just now and then, its nice to remind ye just how wrong ye can be when ye try hard enough ^

I honestly doubt that when DB said he thought "PvP would be rare and meaningful" he meant because players would be spending the preponderance of their time in Solo.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Honestly, yer doing yer cause more harm than good everytime ye comment...its very entertaining to watch unfold but just now and then, its nice to remind ye just how wrong ye can be when ye try hard enough ^

You’d like to think that a representative of the “It’s all about weapons” faction would be less inclined to shoot thenselves in the foot. Repeatedly.

And yet here we are.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Don't kill the messenger. I'm just stating what the home page of the game's website promotes.

.... just as it states that all players in Solo also "contribute to economy, politics and conflicts of the connected galaxy, and you experience the echoes of their activity.".

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

The fact that you think it means the game focuses on multiplayer is your problem, not ours.

To be fair, it does, just not the direct PvP style multiplayer game.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

This game doesnt focus on anything, that's its biggest issue,.

Arguably that’s its biggest strength.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

Ye really dont do yerself any favours do ye? Thats only half the quote, with the part yer missing out being 'rare'...which means solo serves its purpose in making pvp rare and meaningful. Its meaningful because those left in open are more likely to be prepared and not just ganking anything thats moves cos thatd kill the mode...oh no wait silly me, thats not a great argument is it?

Honestly, yer doing yer cause more harm than good everytime ye comment...its very entertaining to watch unfold but just now and then, its nice to remind ye just how wrong ye can be when ye try hard enough ^

Again you just have no idea how this games works do you?
What meaningful PVP do we have atm? what can you archive with it? give me one piece of content for PVP currently in the game.

I like it how people comment on stuff they admittedly are never involved in and have no clue of the context.