News Elite: Dangerous Steam Keys

[Roybe]

It's not an interpretation really, it's actually quite clear. See the other person in the thread who has confirmed the same. But it's only on future purchase on linked accounts. Nowhere was anything said to indicate a 30% full partner.

Then why make this statement:


This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases. We especially appreciate it when you buy direct from us, but we're happy for you to play how and where you like. Just enjoy the game, and fly safe Commanders!









https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148965&p=2293194&viewfull=1#post2293194

 

[Wavey]

Then why make this statement:


This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases. We especially appreciate it when you buy direct from us, but we're happy for you to play how and where you like. Just enjoy the game, and fly safe Commanders!









https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148965&p=2293194&viewfull=1#post2293194

still nothing about valve being a 30% full parther ,this is just about sales not ownership ....

 

[SirBaron]

It's not an interpretation really, it's actually quite clear. See the other person in the thread who has confirmed the same. But it's only on future purchase on linked accounts. Nowhere was anything said to indicate a 30% full partner.

That wont happen, very first post mentions you can still purchase on the FD store and they get all the money.

Valve has plenty of games that are f2p or mmo lite that have their own DLC that isn't on the steam store.

Steam only takes a 30% cut from anything that's sold on the steam store it self, not outside of steam. Future content wont magically become steam only, FD again says in the very first post anything you buy on the FD site will automatically appear on the steam client? Why? Because the client is nothing more than a login, there's no magic imaginary Valve tax suddenly taking 30%.

 

[Jim Steinman]

Then why make this statement:


This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases. We especially appreciate it when you buy direct from us, but we're happy for you to play how and where you like. Just enjoy the game, and fly safe Commanders!









https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148965&p=2293194&viewfull=1#post2293194

This is what you get when you come into the conversation late as it has been discussed a few times previously in the thread.

That part statement was the OP. You as a consumer would pay the same, no brainer. But as Ed says sticking with the FD store remains the best way to support the game 100% suggesting that going the Steam route is not as good for FD. Which it isn't and was clarified in a subsequent post.

 

[mrgstiffler]

Anyone else seeing a message that says "You have not purchased any games eligible for partner keys."

 

[SirBaron]

still nothing about valve being a 30% full parther ,this is just about sales not ownership ....

They take 30% only from sales from the steam store, and any DLC purchased from the steam store nothing else.

 

[Jim Steinman]

That wont happen, very first post mentions you can still purchase on the FD store and they get all the money.

Valve has plenty of games that are f2p or mmo lite that have their own DLC that isn't on the steam store.

Steam only takes a 30% cut from anything that's sold on the steam store it self, not outside of steam. Future content wont magically become steam only, FD again says in the very first post anything you buy on the FD site will automatically appear on the steam client? Why? Because the client is nothing more than a login, there's no magic imaginary Valve tax suddenly taking 30%.

I'm afraid you're wrong. Please see page 25 and the linked quote from Ed who works for FD. He's staff so he'll know more than we do. I know when people come late to the conversation they don't read everything which causes confusion.

http://imgur.com/lpm1OuJ

 

[Crinkley Bottom]

They take 30% only from sales from the steam store, and any DLC purchased from the steam store nothing else.

This is wrong I'm afraid.

Yeah, that's a fair interpretation. We don't think of it as a tax though, just part of working with third party retailers.

 

[SirBaron]

We'll see such a vague answer.

 

[Roybe]

This does need to be clarified, since I activated my Steam key, based on the original post. The comment you are posting does not preclude the first post...but does address the idea of a 30% 'tax'. Quietly awaiting an answer.

 

[Crinkley Bottom]

This does need to be clarified, since I activated my Steam key, based on the original post. The comment you are posting does
not preclude the first post...but does address the idea of a 30% 'tax'. Quietly awaiting an answer.

You've had it.

 

[Jim Steinman]

This does need to be clarified, since I activated my Steam key, based on the original post. The comment you are posting does not preclude the first post...but does address the idea of a 30% 'tax'. Quietly awaiting an answer.

It is an extension of the first post in a way. Ed clarified a position in response to a user question and is really the only supportable position right now as thing stand.

Edit: do note in his comment, Ed did say FD don't see it as a tax.

 

[Roybe]

You've had it.

LOL! Well if the first post was inaccurate, then it cost FDev 30% of every thing I will ever buy from them. Sad mistake, as that could be a substantial number of pounds lost, just from my own purchases. Although I like Steam as a safe repository for my games, I would never have activated them if I thought it would remove money from the developers hands on all purchases. Normally, this is not how Steam works...they only take their cut from sales pushed through the Steam store....in other words, Steam acts like a store, not a partner.

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It is an extension of the first post in a way. Ed clarified a position in response to a user question and is really the only supportable position right now as thing stand.

Edit: do note in his comment, Ed did say FD don't see it as a tax.

I think that was the point Ed was trying to make. That they do not consider it a tax. However, in defending that statement, I think he overlooked the interpretation that is being made. If not, they are losing a lot of money, from caring players, because the first statement to this thread is clearly in opposition to this interpretation. If so, he needs to fix the original statement, or needs to clarify that they signed over 30% of all sales to Steam....a very large issue for a publically held company.

 

[Maxulic]

I am confused at the interest of adding a Steam key. It seems that people are not aware that you can link a non-Steam game to your library: bring up your library, click "+ add a game", select "add a non-Steam game", find the game exe and voila your game now appears in the library, can be launched through Steam, you can use the Steam overlay, chat with your friends, etc. as if it was a Steam game.

Besides you avoid reinstalling the game since I guess that simply copying the directory works.

 

[Jim Steinman]

Lol? Bemusement...


Do remember that Ed and FD will have to be careful about how they say things out to the public. It's a commercial agreement after all. The 30% would appear only to be applicable to those accounts who have linked Steam. Again, discussed earlier in the thread, although I appreciate it is quite long now.

Yes, if you link your account to Steam with a Steam key. It's part of the standard contract with Valve for downloadable content.

Someone else confirming it is a standard practice for Valve and something they are known to do. People who've not understood this such as yourself in this instance have regretted it as they want to support FD as much as they can. I am one of the many who is not getting their Steam key for this reason.


Again the first statement is not in opposition to Ed's latter post, this is also something else discussed pages ago. I would ask that you read this as it should give you the information you need and would show you it is not in clear opposition.


Just a reminder, the 30% Ed can't call a tax, it's the cost of doing busines with Steam for those linked accounts.

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I am confused at the interest of adding a Steam key. It seems that people are not aware that you can link a non-Steam game to your library: bring up your library, click "+ add a game", select "add a non-Steam game", find the game exe and voila your game now appears in the library, can be launched through Steam, you can use the Steam overlay, chat with your friends, etc. as if it was a Steam game.

Besides you avoid reinstalling the game since I guess that simply copying the directory works.

Some people love the "must have" or "deal breaker" features Steam offers.

 

[FlaGuitars]

Can one retrieve the Key and add the game to their library but NOT install it on Steam and just continue to play it as if before Steam ?

 

[Crinkley Bottom]

Can one retrieve the Key and add the game to their library but NOT install it on Steam and just continue to play it as if before Steam ?

I think the process triggers the installation in Steam, but I don't see that as being something you couldn't stop. But to the second part of the question, you'd still be able to use your original installation, but in this case if both were installed, you'd have to keep patching each as needed.

 

[Lostinear]

With getting a key from Steam is there a way to takes the version I have installed already and copy the files into steam. My connection is slow and I would rather not have to uninstall Elite to reinstall it via Steam

 

[Scelous]

There is no "Partner Keys" link listed on my account dashboard.

 

[zeeboid]

There is no "Partner Keys" link listed on my account dashboard.

Same here