thus far is there anyone who successfully build a ground outpost that sells CMM?
Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback
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I hope you're being sarcastic as I definitely would expect "extremely basic tech tree works as expected" to be within the scope of a small QA of a feature rather than "comprehensive testing"
from Market-Logic the construction points requirements should increase gradually only (as more consumers for markets in competition are needed) AND the amount of Mats required should decrease, as some of the goods would be produced locally! Maybe the decrease only in goods which connect to the systems economy?
Not sure i'm understanding you here CMDR . My previous post wasn't sarcasm, sorry to disappoint ya! -- All's i meant was: When they said "open BETA" , i took them at their word and therefore presumed this particular type of update/feature wouldn't be anything remotely close to "well polished" or smooth or whatever.
Consequently, i don't have any disgust nor any expectations toward 'FDev' ... yet!
Why would construction point requirements increase? Who is the competition in the system you're the architect of?
That doesn't make sense logically to me in this games system or I'm not seeing your point.
I do see how needed commodities would decrease because "there's more NPC activity in the system" theory. However, logically speaking, it's always easier and cheaper to build in bigger cities due to the availability of materials. So therefore build point costs should logically decrease too if the materials required decreases.
This isn't a real estate you can run out of space with. If you can't build anything else. Start a new system. No sense to make the first one harder "just because".
My squadron is aligned with my player faction as it is the same as a minor faction in that respect and in my first system I colonised my faction was 3rd as expected but not in the second system I colonised.
well, nice that you brought up that analogy - building in cities is cheaper because you don´t need long hauls of mats?
Yep, but the prices for land/ground are exponentially higher.
So far your analogy hits the mark (and what I tried to express, sorry no native speaker),
to support stable economy of multiple markets you need larger consumer groups (industry, settlements etc.) as consumption does not grow linear and proportional to number of markets. So far a gradual increrase of construction points makes sense (pure doubbling them not).
But we can agree to disagree, FDev anyway stated clearly that they will not change the feature at all (only balancing like with CMM supplies)....
Yep, but the prices for land/ground are exponentially higher.
So far your analogy hits the mark (and what I tried to express, sorry no native speaker),
to support stable economy of multiple markets you need larger consumer groups (industry, settlements etc.) as consumption does not grow linear and proportional to number of markets. So far a gradual increrase of construction points makes sense (pure doubbling them not).
But we can agree to disagree, FDev anyway stated clearly that they will not change the feature at all (only balancing like with CMM supplies)....
How bizzarre, that did it... still saying Comms installation so at the very least that's confusing...
Yeah interesting... the "Rename Facility" is a good way to check that... the one in my first system is still a comms installation (I read this wasn't fixed retroactively though), but the comms installation comes up as a relay installation in the icon.
Thanks all!
Reading though this thread I forgot English wasn't your native.
If that's the case then it could be different than you and I based on location on shipping. Here there is logistics companies everywhere to transport materials. Warehouses to store those materials to be shipped out same day. I lived on a small town (population less than 3,500 and 15,000 in the county). It was way more expensive to live in a small remote rural town than it was in a large 135,000+ population city due to logistics. The real estate was more expensive too. Not only because the cost of living was higher, but you got paid less compared to those in a similar field.
I think where we both definitely disagree is that construction cost points should be excluded from the discussion of balancing. It is not a feature itself being changed. The metrics for CMM has been changed without changing the features. The point costs can be too by decreasing, reducing to the normal numbers, or made null.
Edit: Hopefully this deeper explanation helps you understand my reasoning. Even though we are in agreement about the logistics part.
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My read on that was more it was cosmetic effects (i.e the base layouts mismatched the pictures), rather than actual facility mix-ups... as i built a large military settlement and can see its got a different layout, but still is a military settlement.
My reference to it being "fixed" came from here (and the comment after)... there's a few different threads about this it seems (annoyingly...)
How to build a tourists settlement or a Security station in Trailblazer - Edited
Only use the Hermes satellite installation The other satellite installations will not allow you to build a tourist settlement They are not marked as a satellite after completing Here the issue to vote for: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/72902
I think the takeaway is just "things are still hinky"
Same. Got one outpost active and another under construction. Will hold off building the large orbital station till everything else is in place and this issue fully clarified.
If nothing else it seems a bit off that the order you build your things in can have a more dramatic effect than specifically what you built.
It's not the increase on T3 structures I'm worried about, those can really only be spent on starports, but if T2 costs are affected for non-starport projects but only after you build your starports, that makes a massive difference.
Yeah this one... like... i don't mind costs increasing based off some metric... but if that metric is a particular type of facility, which results in a global increase... that seems a bit dumb. It should just be that particular facility type if it only triggers for that.
I like the specs listed. And I can also live with less laser weaponry as long as we have gunners who can shoot straight.
The aim of the current FC's gunnery crew is worse than the stormtroopers in Star Wars
With colonization being a thing. I just hope we get capital freighters. Something that is a dedicated hauler unlike the Fleet Carrier. For when colonization opens up for the explorers out there.
I don't know how accurate this is but I've been using it as a guide, apologies if anyone has posted it already
This is not exactly what I would call intuitive, in the same way as the sea is not above the sky. For example I built 3 Space Farms and would never have guessed they fed into the rather cryptically named Outpost Hub. Or know if it is bugged.
I also have a mining outpost that is 100% complete but still shows as being under construction, so I don't know if it is feeding into the Industrial Hub or not.
Yeah tracking those...the problem wasn't knowing those connections though... rather, I'd build a Relay station, and it'd create a Comms Station which didn't count as the pre-req.
Now it seems it creates a relay station still labeled as a comms station, but is a relay station under the hood.