Paul, one thing that puzzles me is that when I build a facility, another faction takes control of it and not the faction to which I have allegiance. I have to go through the process of an election or war to (perhaps) take control of the facility that I built. It doesn't seem to make much sense.
Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback
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Perfect - Many thanks
The core problem is right now I can't get my chosen faction out of the bubble with colonization. I thought I made that abundantly clear. There were 5 uninhabited systems within 16 lys of us at the start. that quickly went to two. We got one. If the range isn't extended or done away with entirely that's as far as we go. There are no more within that range from the system we are colonizing.
If your squadron is affiliated to that faction, it will be placed 3rd in any system you build when buying the contract from a different faction (that faction will have control)
It is only a little matter of a BGS involuntary negotion with the controlling faction by yours to take and establish a new chain controlled by your chosen faction.
And what's unclear about the fact that by colonizing even from where others started, even from the edge of the bubble, you bring your faction with you amongst the four factions that establish themselves in the system? It won't be in control initially, but you can bring it there very quickly.
So, again.
Where is the problem?
Hang on. You may have just completely solved my issue if you're saying what I think you are. Can I dm you?
The basic problem is that single-faction control of every asset in a system doesn't work as well (BGS scorekeeping aside) as the assets being split between factions. So it makes sense to split them up as a the default, because it's not like most BGS-neutral architects are going to think to specifically spread them out, and let the minority who really want a single-control system arrange that through the BGS.
Similarly when they added all the Odyssey surface bases back in 2021, they didn't just give all of them to the existing controlling faction of the system.
(With how susceptible newly colonised systems appear to be to going to Lockdown at the slightest provocation, spreading out the assets is just safer, too.)
Somehow I missed this. I was thinking I had to start from a system we are present in to move out. This changes everything. I thank you both for the explanation. Now my concern can turn to bugs rather than thinking I couldn't even use the new mechanics.
Guys - an Architect only plans and layouts a System!
He IS NOT the general contractor!
If he decides to support the building-efforts payed by the ruling
edit: wording
"..If I have to pay players to build my colony..." -> its NOT your colony - it belongs to the Faction from where you claimed it.
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Honestly I doubt that's true though. Even now after claims have been paused for several days, architect view scrolling around the edge of the bubble there appears to be distinctly more systems still building the primary port than in operational state. And in the other direction, the "structures completed" number is going to be heavily skewed by the many very active systems that have 10+ structures built out.
does anyone know if any of the API's / tools allow you to select a systems' colonisation status?
[edit] I can't see it on either inara or spansh yet
[edit] I can't see it on either inara or spansh yet
Last I heard status values for colony's weren't available and apparently the ones just added in this update for PP2 values haven't worked.
Currently you can not cancel, remove or upgrade structures once it's placed. We are not sure if it's an upcoming thing or if it's another undisclosed intended design.
The economic effects of Settlements, Hubs and Installations seems to be exceptionally localized to the planetary body they are placed on or around. This is really bad since this will lead to most if not all of the slots on or around a planetary body to be multiple duplicates of the same Settlement, Hub or Installation. It also means that when it comes to pushing an economy type, any planetary body with only 1 slot is effectively worthless.
To allow more creativity and make setting up an economy type less difficult, we should be able to assign which Starport our Settlements, Hubs and Installations direct their economic output into. This should become available as soon as a Settlement, Hub or Installation is completed (with the exception of those without an economy type of course)
To allow more creativity and make setting up an economy type less difficult, we should be able to assign which Starport our Settlements, Hubs and Installations direct their economic output into. This should become available as soon as a Settlement, Hub or Installation is completed (with the exception of those without an economy type of course)
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Sometimes the goal justifies the means. That's why players generally engage in grind i.e. repetitive, mundane in-game activities to unlock/obtain the "shiny" at the end of it.
With Colonisation specifically, I wanted to try "my" own system building (it being the new content and all), managed to create a simple scientific outpost with a single installation.
Did I enjoy it? Nope.
Do I regret it? Nope.
Will I do it again? Nope.
Frontier is designing the game - its rules, its features - not the player. Why would I blame the player for not enjoying it? As the phrase goes... "Don't hate the player, hate the game"
Put your military or tourism settlements there. Give them both nothing to look at but the darkness from within.
One pays for it while the other is paid.
One could argue that if it is fun you're after, there are plenty of activities in the game to choose from and eventually get to the shiny reward, or at least a similar one. If one's playstyle is mostly reward driven, it's one's own choice and FOMO driving the gameplay.Sometimes the goal justifies the means. That's why players generally engage in grind i.e. repetitive, mundane in-game activities to unlock/obtain the "shiny" at the end of it.
With Colonisation specifically, I wanted to try "my" own system building (it being the new content and all), managed to create a simple scientific outpost with a single installation.
Did I enjoy it? Nope.
Do I regret it? Nope.
Will I do it again? Nope.
Frontier is designing the game - its rules, its features - not the player. Why would I blame the player for not enjoying it? As the phrase goes... "Don't hate the player, hate the game"
Indeed, and it is up to the player to decide if they wish to engage with any content in the game, isn't it?
Ummm..... sounds a little bit like:
"Why do you bang your head against the wall like that?"
"It feels so good when I stop..."
Who is blaming the player, bar the player themselves?