Elite Dangerous Universe Vs The Borg
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be careful there, you might get blocked
Chuck Norris facts are Chuck Norris facts!
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Depends on who is writing the story.
Borg in TNG - OMG, we're getting slaughtered and were only saved by a last minute trick.
Borg in First Contact - OMG, we're taking losses, but we can actually stop one borg cube with our task force.
Borg in Voyager - How many Borg are we going to blow up today? Or steal from? Or watch the Queen stupidly destroy cube after cube because she "lost contact" with 3 drones out of 50000? And then, 20 years later, the Borg are a manageable threat and we have courses on them at Starfleet academy.
It's fiction. They aren't consistent and do whatever the writers want. Also, they're logically inconsistent. How can anything become a threat if the only way it learns is through assimilation? Shouldn't they retain the "inventiveness" of those they assimilate? You'd think so, but we're explicitly told they don't.
And then there's the tech difference between Star Trek and Elite.
Meh. Pick whomever you want to win.
A closer, more interesting contest would be between the Cylons/Colonials of the new BSG in Elite. Though even then, there are tech differences.
No, they were weak only against the Undine/Species 8472 to because they were as miraculous biologically as the borg are tech wise. Again, the borg HAD to assimilate to learn and the Undine couldn't be assimilated and had death star weapons, so...
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I read that book 4 times... Awesome stuff.
But Chuck Norris could kill with a teabag...
Honestly, I think the Thargoids are the Berserkers that the Guardians left behind. They've just continued to evolve and they aren't obsessed with wiping out all life. They may occasionally attack us because we're too similar to their original target.
Until we get the magical nanites (modified borg nanoprobes) that can instantly destroy them.
Star Trek is fun to watch. Leave it at that.
The Elite Dangerous universe has some good "realism" going for it. Leave it be.
There's a difference between fantasy, soft science fiction and hard science fiction (Elite).
Star Trek doesn't realistically simulate society due to its fascist economic policies. The utopia of the United Federation of Planets could not exist or be sustainable in real-life.
The Economic Fantasy of "Star Trek"
https://fee.org/articles/the-economic-fantasy-of-star-trek/
Star Trek Is Wrong: There Will Always Be Scarcity
https://mises.org/library/star-trek-wrong-there-will-always-be-scarcity
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In reference to that meme....er Star Wars ships have shields too.
oh and TURBO lasers man....everyone knows turbo's make things better
Edit Shivans would kick everyones butts.
I always considered Star Trek (federation) to be left wing, not fascist, more communist, but without the brutality, either way it's just sci fi. (allthough as a democratic socialist myself i find it quite good). Forgive me for the off topic but i couldn't ignore the suggestion made.
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oh and TURBO lasers man....everyone knows turbo's make things better
Yeah, because turbo makes the lasers...faster...than the regular kind? :S
The closest to the Thargoids moviewise has to be the Shadows from Babylon 5, I've always thought that the show's creator, Joseph Michael Straczynski, must have been (or perhaps still is) an Elite fan as there were just too many parallels between the two, stations spin for gravity, traders, pirates and on and on it goes.
I think our naughty bugs still have a few new tricks up their sleeves, assuming they wear clothes that is. Yes a virus devastated them, but they obviously must have had their vaccine shots or simply evolved a new tougher race of themselves. And people? They have not yet begun to fight...
I think our naughty bugs still have a few new tricks up their sleeves, assuming they wear clothes that is. Yes a virus devastated them, but they obviously must have had their vaccine shots or simply evolved a new tougher race of themselves. And people? They have not yet begun to fight...
[video=youtube;V4CXKPcO09s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4CXKPcO09s[/video]
See? Even they have to contend with beige on their own homeworld!
See? Even they have to contend with beige on their own homeworld!
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elite didn't invent spinning stations for gravity, or any of that other stuff.
The Shadows did just that, operated in the shadows...never (until the end) directly engaging in combat. The shadows are more like Elite's Dark Wheel (the real dark wheel, not the fake minor faction).
The Shadows did just that, operated in the shadows...never (until the end) directly engaging in combat. The shadows are more like Elite's Dark Wheel (the real dark wheel, not the fake minor faction).
True, I can't begin to call those spray of potshots "phasers" nor take the abramsverse seriously except for some nostalgic character feels.
haha, well, yeah I suppose the Trek tech can be better appreciated as a TOS fan. I'd agree the Trek utopian ideal had been all over the place and debatable, since Roddenberry was gone they've retconned some , with at least scarcity on the fringes ala DS9, although it's a nice optimistic dream. The Trek ships aren't as flimsy as they seem and I'd agree their tech is way overpowered too early by a thousand years at least. What with tractor beams, antimatter/matter engines/bombs, localized anti-gravity, transporters besides the powerful weapons and shields. The Enterprise could also propel to 0.5c on impulse quickly without going to warp (Star Trek: The Motion Picture). TOS was pioneering and had some of the best sci-fi literary talent in it's time (60's) contributing to shaping it's strange mix of hard and perhaps hyperimaginative sci-fi world. I'd agree ED's witchpace/hyperspace trumps Trek's warp drive and perhaps the ED society can learn to leverage or adapt the tech to more powerful weapons etc. ( or "learn" from the Thargoid's upcoming "deathrays"
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